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126board Access?
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As you can see from the control panel, the site is fully live and running on the back end.
It appears that there is an issue with the provider, Linode, and their server configuration, rather than anything with the site / software.
We have restored the site two different times from known-good backups, from March 24 and March 31, and we continue to get that screen.
We will contact Linode and request they check things from their side, because a known-good backup should reset EVERYTHING on the site from the ground up back to the point where the snapshot backup was taken. If there was a site / software problem, a known-good backup should solve it (we have done this numerous times over the years with this site, and a known-good backup restore works 100% of the time).
More as we find it out.
It appears that there is an issue with the provider, Linode, and their server configuration, rather than anything with the site / software.
We have restored the site two different times from known-good backups, from March 24 and March 31, and we continue to get that screen.
We will contact Linode and request they check things from their side, because a known-good backup should reset EVERYTHING on the site from the ground up back to the point where the snapshot backup was taken. If there was a site / software problem, a known-good backup should solve it (we have done this numerous times over the years with this site, and a known-good backup restore works 100% of the time).
More as we find it out.
It is appearing that there is a configuration issue that has come up with the openlitespeed web server for the 126board.com site. We are working on fixing this. Please hang tight a few days.
Don't worry -- everything is actually up and running on the back end just fine, and all information and photos are there -- no information has been lost at all. It's just a problem seemingly with the web server preferences/configuration that we are investigating.
Thanks.
Don't worry -- everything is actually up and running on the back end just fine, and all information and photos are there -- no information has been lost at all. It's just a problem seemingly with the web server preferences/configuration that we are investigating.
Thanks.
The site has been tentatively brought up and restored from a March 31 backup, so no information is confirmed to have been lost.
However, now it appears that the site's SSL certificate (which like this site, generally renews automatically), has not renewed itself. This gives users a "WARNING - insecure site" when they call up the URL. You can proceed to the site through an exception, but this involves an extra button click and doesn't feel right to do.
We are working on getting the SSL certificate situation remedied, with the provider. The good thing is that the site is up and fully usable if folks want to use it.
That is because your browser still has the error message page in its cache.
If you hold the SHIFT key while hitting "reload" in your browser, it should dump the cache and reload the page.
Here is what the page looks like, as I load it right now:
Same here, but I'm getting different errors depending if I use my home PC, or try to connect from my work PC with VPN. Home PC shows the same as in post #1 (Page could not be loaded), regardless of hard refreshes or different browsers. Work PC shows Apache2 default page when accessing the root domain.
Is it working for anyone else?
Initial click on your "New posts" link above:
Clicking the Advance button gives me this:
This is using MS Edge fwiw
Using Firefox on my PC, I got a warning message that the SSL Certificate was expired and that the site could be compromised, but Firefox allowed me to accept the risk and see the site. On my iPhone, no such luck - iPhone will not allow me to accept the risk, so I have no access to the Board. My iPad allowed me to accept the risk and access the site using Safari browser.
My iPhone doubles as my business phone and personal phone. It is certainly possible that the settings set by my Company are such that I cannot accept the risk since it is a company phone. My iPad uses Safari browser as well, but I was able to accept the risk.
My iPhone doubles as my business phone and personal phone. It is certainly possible that the settings set by my Company are such that I cannot accept the risk since it is a company phone. My iPad uses Safari browser as well, but I was able to accept the risk.
The site is not broken, and has been operating just fine. The un-renewed SSL certificate is what is tripping up peoples' browsers on the site. If you delete your browser's cache, it will load the site, and then you can create an exception (one time) that will then allow you to go to the site all the time, as normal. Basically the expired SSL cert is causing browsers to think that the site is unsafe/unprotected.
The good news is that a 100% new 126board server has now been created, and the site has been migrated over to it. The last step remaining is to move the DNS pointers over to the new site, which I expect will happen in the next day or two. Once switched over, it takes 10-15 minutes to propagate across the internet, and then the site should be accessible (and not throw up insecure/SSL errors) as it traditionally has been.
The problem that caused the issue was a botched, routine software update that happened back in March. The botch pertained to some python language-related updates. The site continued to operate fine until the monthly reboot was done at the end of March, when the updated software (including the botched update) was loaded. Then, the routine/automatic SSL certificate update (which happens about every three months) failed to execute in early April, due to the non-working python setup.
So, we are close to having this issue completely resolved. The site has lost no data, and things will pick up where they left off around the end of March.
The good news is that a 100% new 126board server has now been created, and the site has been migrated over to it. The last step remaining is to move the DNS pointers over to the new site, which I expect will happen in the next day or two. Once switched over, it takes 10-15 minutes to propagate across the internet, and then the site should be accessible (and not throw up insecure/SSL errors) as it traditionally has been.
The problem that caused the issue was a botched, routine software update that happened back in March. The botch pertained to some python language-related updates. The site continued to operate fine until the monthly reboot was done at the end of March, when the updated software (including the botched update) was loaded. Then, the routine/automatic SSL certificate update (which happens about every three months) failed to execute in early April, due to the non-working python setup.
So, we are close to having this issue completely resolved. The site has lost no data, and things will pick up where they left off around the end of March.
Hello all:
The 126board site migration to the new server is now 100% complete, and the server is in full operation and has SSL encryption enabled, and so forth. The site's new IP address is now propagating across the Internet to map to the 126board.com domain. Once this happens, the site should be fully accessible from everywhere.
One tiny issue remains to be resolved, and that is the banner image across the top of the site. We will fix that soon, but it will not affect site operation in any way.
Everything should be sync'd across the worldwide DNS system hopefully by later this afternoon, or tonight.
Thanks for your patience,
xfadmin
The 126board site migration to the new server is now 100% complete, and the server is in full operation and has SSL encryption enabled, and so forth. The site's new IP address is now propagating across the Internet to map to the 126board.com domain. Once this happens, the site should be fully accessible from everywhere.
One tiny issue remains to be resolved, and that is the banner image across the top of the site. We will fix that soon, but it will not affect site operation in any way.
Everything should be sync'd across the worldwide DNS system hopefully by later this afternoon, or tonight.
Thanks for your patience,
xfadmin
Been about two hours now since the "new" server went live.
It seems that the new domain + IP are taking their time to propagate across the internet, but I have been able to access the "new" 126board and it is fine -- SSL is present and working. Research shows that things can take 24-72 hours to fully update, and for browser and other caches at internet providers to update.
It seems that the new domain + IP are taking their time to propagate across the internet, but I have been able to access the "new" 126board and it is fine -- SSL is present and working. Research shows that things can take 24-72 hours to fully update, and for browser and other caches at internet providers to update.
Following up on this, the 126board forum should be 100% up and operational.
If you are not able to access it from your home network, you may need to do as we did, and unplug/reboot your home wireless router for 30 seconds to clear its DNS cache. That will reset and refresh all of the settings. (This is actually a good practice to do periodically, anyway).
Happy that things are back online and available.
We'll do better in the future as for site reliability. Having the site difficult to access for three weeks is unacceptable.
If you are not able to access it from your home network, you may need to do as we did, and unplug/reboot your home wireless router for 30 seconds to clear its DNS cache. That will reset and refresh all of the settings. (This is actually a good practice to do periodically, anyway).
Happy that things are back online and available.
We'll do better in the future as for site reliability. Having the site difficult to access for three weeks is unacceptable.
The site's banner image has now been restored, so the site is back up to 100% functionality and accessibility, as before.
Again, apologies for the delay in remediation. We know we lost 50+% of our 126board members back to Benzworld, so will have to earn them back, one at a time.
Even Liviu & nocfn are again BBBs (not the M119 motor mount, but rather Benzworld126 Best Buddies). We think the recent move to Korean as the forum’s primary language scared them off.
Again, apologies for the delay in remediation. We know we lost 50+% of our 126board members back to Benzworld, so will have to earn them back, one at a time.
Even Liviu & nocfn are again BBBs (not the M119 motor mount, but rather Benzworld126 Best Buddies). We think the recent move to Korean as the forum’s primary language scared them off.
I've been struggling with this issue for the past weeks, and still can't access it. I was using Edge. Cleared the cache to no avail. Then I made an exception for the site, and still ... nothing. I then installed Chrome and the first site I went to was 126board.com . Well, no luck (insecure site). Then I made an exception there too: three dots in the upper right corner --> Settings --> Privacy and Security (from the left menu) --> Site Settings --> Insecure Content --> 126board.com (added to allow show insecure content).
The result:
I have never been computer inclined, but I am just about to give up, so excuse me for not finding message #20 not endorsable nor laughable/funny.
The result:
Helping with advice a fellow member when nobody else knows the right answer doesn't make anybody "Best Buddies". I get the joke flavor, I really do, but honestly, I am too frustrated already to even smile about it. If I could reach the 126board, I would have, but I couldn't.
That would be nice, I have been contacted in private by several members at BW asking me what is going on with the 126board.
I have never been computer inclined, but I am just about to give up, so excuse me for not finding message #20 not endorsable nor laughable/funny.
If you have a wireless network (router) at home, please do the following. Unplug the router for 60 seconds, and then plug it back in and let it reboot.
The wireless router also has a cache, and unplugging/rebooting it dumps this cache. Please see post #19 in this thread.
This should fix your problem on all browsers/devices attaching to your home network.
Again, I am assuming that you have a wireless router at home.
Also, next time you are away from home, try accessing the site via your phone's browser, and I am 100% sure it will come up just fine. This is because you are using data connectivity on your cellular provider's network, and not going through the wireless router at home with the cached 404 page pertaining to the 126board.
Please trust me when I tell you that the site is 100% up and working correctly. I was in Boston most of last week and was able to access it from multiple devices, on both hotel and office/corporate networks via my laptop, as well as via my phone. This is a case of user error, not anything wrong with the site itself, nor its infrastructure.
The wireless router also has a cache, and unplugging/rebooting it dumps this cache. Please see post #19 in this thread.
This should fix your problem on all browsers/devices attaching to your home network.
Again, I am assuming that you have a wireless router at home.
Also, next time you are away from home, try accessing the site via your phone's browser, and I am 100% sure it will come up just fine. This is because you are using data connectivity on your cellular provider's network, and not going through the wireless router at home with the cached 404 page pertaining to the 126board.
Please trust me when I tell you that the site is 100% up and working correctly. I was in Boston most of last week and was able to access it from multiple devices, on both hotel and office/corporate networks via my laptop, as well as via my phone. This is a case of user error, not anything wrong with the site itself, nor its infrastructure.
It is good (we think?) to know that the forum is found valuable by BW members. We'll win back the ones we lost to BW, we promise.....
Yes, even @cascade asked me what had happened to the forum.
Yes ... and NO. Here is the update:
- My personal laptop cannot access it from home, but it can if I take it to work and use the Company's network (log in as a 'Guest'). Unfortunately, I don't plan on carrying two laptops with me every day at work and use my lunch break to access the forum,
- My Company laptop can access the 126 board from either home (on my network) or at work. Unfortunately, that is a Company tool, not a personal one, and the Company has clear rules on using its assets for personal purposes. Yes, I do have a wireless router at home (but resetting it did not do anything), also at work I am connecting wirelessly.
- My personal cell and the Company's cell cannot access the 126 board on either network (mine, the Company's, T-Mobile or Sprint).
Here is a PM I received yesterday on BW from a gentleman who tried to access the 126 board as a result of me promoting it on the 107 forum (post # 204 in the link of his message, No start after filter replacement fuel distributor):
So, the 126 board may be operational for some, but it appears that some still have problems accessing it. I did clear all caches and histories I could get my hand on in my laptop, but it did not help.
Here is more info, maybe it can offer some new info: when I try to access the 126 board forum and I am not able (per the above info), this screen comes first (on the laptop I get the same screens):
By choosing "Advanced", this screen comes next:
By choosing to proceed to the 126board.com (unsafe), the next (and last) screen is
I am assuming this is also the error the gentleman is referring to. I hope the above helps.
Yeah, I don't know what to say on that. I have been able to access the forum using my phone and home computer, and iPad, and laptop from many different places including my home network once I unplugged my router. RIght now I am sitting in the United Club at Dulles Airport in Virginia and no problems whatsoever accessing the forum from my phone, iPad and company laptop. Same from a Marriott Hotel Boston two weeks ago.
a 404 error indicates that no such web page is available. There is no condition where this is possible with the current setup. Your computer and the other guy's are still using cached information to try to access the forum, which is sending it to an "insecure" page that does not exist.
I don't know how to say it any clearer - the forum is up and running 100%, and I see the daily stats of people using it, and the traffic numbers. This is telling me that people are successfully accessing and using that forum. People all over the world.
I don't know how to say it any clearer - the forum is up and running 100%, and I see the daily stats of people using it, and the traffic numbers. This is telling me that people are successfully accessing and using that forum. People all over the world.
@Jlaa - thank you for your suggestions. I will look into it separately, and because this thread is not relevant to this forum, I may contact you separately about it, if you have nothing against.
@gerryvz - yes, I know is operational, but something did change for some, when it came back online (only 126board, not 500eboard). Anyway, thanks again, I will deal with it on my own.
@gerryvz - yes, I know is operational, but something did change for some, when it came back online (only 126board, not 500eboard). Anyway, thanks again, I will deal with it on my own.
Thanks. Please report back your findings in this thread (or to whatever other public thread is currently being used to track this issue). That way multiple heads can help. Thanks.
This thread is in Off-Topic, and relates to this forum’s sister forum, so it’s 100% relevant !!
I wish you luck in resolving the issue. It does seem that most of the “regulars” are logging back in to the 126board. I am currently at the Venetian Hotel in Las Vegas and have been accessing the 126board from my phone and laptop with no problems.
I still think it is a cache issue. The DNS issue could be an issue, which is why I suggested unplugging and waiting and then restarting the home wireless router, which caches a lot of DNS info that gets reset when the router is restarted.
I wish you luck in resolving the issue. It does seem that most of the “regulars” are logging back in to the 126board. I am currently at the Venetian Hotel in Las Vegas and have been accessing the 126board from my phone and laptop with no problems.
I still think it is a cache issue. The DNS issue could be an issue, which is why I suggested unplugging and waiting and then restarting the home wireless router, which caches a lot of DNS info that gets reset when the router is restarted.
Sounds like your DNS server while using your VPN at home is a private address (192.168.50.1 - perhaps your gateway) that fowards DNS requests to a public server.
I am interested to see @liviu165 ’s DNS settings while at home on his home computer vs his work computer —- if there is a difference….. since his work computer can access 126board at home, but his home computer cannot. As well, I wonder if there is a DNS based content filter being used….
I had a computer expert chasing all caches in my laptop (including any hidden ones), clean registries and cookies, but to no avail. Everything was pointing to something else, external to my laptop.
So, with no other options left, I reached out to our department expert. He was kind to look into it, and after investigating, he explained me what he thinks the problem is. Because I am not computer literate, I asked him to write it to me. I hope his message makes sense for you and offers the explanation:
Roy,
Using the SSLLabs website, I first checked to see what the certificate(s) were on the website:
Here it shows 2. One is on an IPv4 Address (bottom) and the other is on an IPv6 Address (top). The IPv4 is good, and the other has an issue with the DNS name mismatching the certificate CN.
I then took a look at the DNS resolution from my laptop. Here you can see the IPv4 (45.33.78.185) and IPv6 (2600:3c03::f03c:94ff:feb6:f300) addresses that match the servers. I used Google’s DNS Servers (8.8.8.8) in this example but got consistent reports from our internal / default server.
I also saw the same behavior as you with our work network resolving to the IPv4 and the good certificate and a mobile carrier resolving IPv6 and a bad certificate. I believe the difference is the default use of an IPv4 vs IPv6 address on the different networks. Both should work, but it appears that there is a misconfiguration on the IPv6 side of the website. I found a thread of a similar issue linked below:
IPv6 Certificate not valid for domain name , IPv4 is correct
Thanks
Unfortunately, nothing has changed when trying to access with my personal laptop: I am still unable to access from home, the same messages/behavior as before.
@gerryvz : could you please mention what you did (I am assuming you changed something which allows me now to access the site with my smartphone)? I would like to mention that to my coworker.
@gerryvz : could you please mention what you did (I am assuming you changed something which allows me now to access the site with my smartphone)? I would like to mention that to my coworker.
I don't want to beat the dead horse, but I just wanted to mention that the above is incorrect. I was using a different phone that was given to me and did not realize that the previous owner (my wife) set it up to automatically connect to the gym's wi-fi as a guest while in the building (which is where I was at the time of the message). On its 5G provider only (T-Mobile, NOT somebody's wi-fi)), it cannot access. So do other phones (my son, my work phone, co-workers, etc.), while others apparently can (member AMG5PT4).
This message is meant not to ask for a change, is meant ONLY for clarification.
I cant access the site 126borad
I have clear the cache and restart router and modem still not access
i have cleared google cache to
If i use my mobile 5G its still mot working
One screenshot is with wifi connection
One screenshot is with 5G connection
some times the site is working
what is the solution
I have clear the cache and restart router and modem still not access
i have cleared google cache to
If i use my mobile 5G its still mot working
One screenshot is with wifi connection
One screenshot is with 5G connection
some times the site is working
what is the solution
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Still not working in Norway
Its the same here
I have tried different computers and mobile
What is the problem with site's
I live I Oslo and I use internet form the biggest company Telenor
My work is outside of Oslo and we use different
Internet company
but i cant access the site with 5G on the phone and internet on the computer
possible to to move the site på this plat form ?
I have tried different computers and mobile
What is the problem with site's
I live I Oslo and I use internet form the biggest company Telenor
My work is outside of Oslo and we use different
Internet company
but i cant access the site with 5G on the phone and internet on the computer
possible to to move the site på this plat form ?
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This is because there is a setting that has not been fixed, by where when the site is accessed via IPv6, it does not work / you get the warning.
When the site is accessed via IPv4, it works fine. Most home broadband systems use IPv4. Mobile 5G networks use IPv6.
The site is going to be re-hosted and revamped in the coming weeks / next couple of months. As is this site. As part of this re-hosting / revamping / upgrading, this configuration problem will be fixed. This work is already underway, but I also have other projects going on at the same time, including the rebuild of my G-wagen's M104, and various work on my E63 AMG. Not to mention two overseas vacations in the next 3 weeks.
Remember, I don't have ANY technical help / assistance in keeping both this site and the 126board up and running. I do this all on my own. It is not easy for one person to keep multiple forums up and running from a technical perspective. There is daily work that has to be done to keep things operating smoothly. And at least for this site, I've been doing this -- on my own -- for the past 16 years. For the 126board, for the past several years.
When the site is accessed via IPv4, it works fine. Most home broadband systems use IPv4. Mobile 5G networks use IPv6.
The site is going to be re-hosted and revamped in the coming weeks / next couple of months. As is this site. As part of this re-hosting / revamping / upgrading, this configuration problem will be fixed. This work is already underway, but I also have other projects going on at the same time, including the rebuild of my G-wagen's M104, and various work on my E63 AMG. Not to mention two overseas vacations in the next 3 weeks.
Remember, I don't have ANY technical help / assistance in keeping both this site and the 126board up and running. I do this all on my own. It is not easy for one person to keep multiple forums up and running from a technical perspective. There is daily work that has to be done to keep things operating smoothly. And at least for this site, I've been doing this -- on my own -- for the past 16 years. For the 126board, for the past several years.
I understand people are really upset, but let's be polite here and not be too demanding. I'll get to things when I get to things. In the meantime, figure out yourself how to get access to an IPv4 connection, and then you can use the site. And if you don't like it, there's always Benzworld W126 forum, and also Benzworld W124 V-8 forum.
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