Manual swapping an M156 C63 AMG

[anderzen]

Hey All,

Figured some of you may find this interesting. In my opinion the M156 was loosely based on much of what made the M119 so great and is essentially a Modernized beefed up version (although not quite as bulletproof..)

After completing M113/119/273 manual swaps and years of wanting to manual swap a w204 C63, finally acquired one that was right for the job. Here is Part I:

Cheers!
Hope I'll be back in a 034/036 someday!

 

[duuder]

I watched this the other day, it was really neat!!

 

[anderzen]

I watched this the other day, it was really neat!!

Thx for checking it out!

 

[anderzen]

Part 2 is out and the car is now as 100% OEM as it can be, including no more PRND and working Reverse lights and backup camera.

 

[duuder]

@anderzen have you seen this adapter kit? Some are trying to figure out what clutch was used for thr clk blackseries

Adapter Kit Mercedes-Benz M156 - manual 6-speed BMW M57n GS6-53DZ HGD JGA - 240mm / 9.45"

An adapter allowing the connection (swap / conversion) of a Mercedes-Benz M156 with a ZF manual transmission (ZF Friedrichshafen) used in BMWs. The perfect solution for amateur and professional motorsports.

pmcmotorsport-shop.com

 

[gsxr]

Nice work! Dumb question - is ESP still fully functional?

 

[duuder]

Nice work! Dumb question - is ESP still fully functional?

on the black series on bat, it is not - i went thru aderzen's video twice but didnt see any info on it, he'll have a better answer for us

 

[gsxr]

on the black series on bat, it is not - i went thru aderzen's video twice but didnt see any info on it, he'll have a better answer for us

Yup - that's why I asked! I was curious if anderzen was able to solve what the super-secret-sauce people could not on the BaHaT BS (link).

 

[anderzen]

No Adapter kits are necessary, the CLK63 is using the same transmission I am, one used a kangaroos team flywheel/clutch and the one featured on OTS used same OEM dual mass I am with a custom pressure plate and clutch designed from the OEM specs. SPEC clutch makes clutches that work as well already so no need for custom, I am using an OEM LUK C300 clutch.

Yes, my ESP/ABS was functioning properly before programming and has been programmed to manual now, minimal behavior change in that. I talked about the programming on mine including screenshots of what I did in the middle of part 2. The black series in my opinion needs more programming from what I have heard, if I was there in person with it I think I could figure it out but who knows.

Maybe someone will send a CLK63 my way eventually and I can show the process with no secrets or gatekeeping it's really not complicated, and all can be done with OEM parts

 

[anderzen]

can comments be deleted on BAT? I just commented on there, went through and now refreshing the page its not there, either of you mind seeing if you can see it on your end?

 

[duuder]

can comments be deleted on BAT? I just commented on there, went through and now refreshing the page its not there, either of you mind seeing if you can see it on your end?

i dont see your comment

 

[anderzen]

yea they definitely deleted it...

 

[duuder]

yea they definitely deleted it...

oh snap! consider it a badge of honor! welcome to the brotherhood

 

[anderzen]

seems like it's there now... idk this site is weird and I have never used it... but that was fishy.. not a fan of BAT in general

Left a second comment and that one doesn't show now lol

 

[duuder]

yea, thats bat for you... a lot of us from here get flagged for spitting facts, they dont like us there

 

[anderzen]

and that's why I stay away, they want those out of the know to open the check books... not those in the know.

 

[gsxr]

yea, thats bat for you... a lot of us from here get flagged for spitting facts, they dont like us there

Yep. GSXR no longer posts on BaHaT due to censorship. Douggie's Carz & Bidz is actually worse, believe it or not... he doesn't post there either. And, I had a similar problem with my first and only post at Peecar Market. Probably should start a new thread for everyone to share their censorship stories from the various online auction platforms.

Anyway. In this case, BaHaT is moderating your comment because you are a new user. I kinda understand this, although I still don't like it. However, @anderzen's comments timestamped yesterday afternoon (~6pm on 5/16) are STILL not appearing in the auction listing.

They will never tell you if your comment is not approved, it just never shows up. I will be watching this to see if the comment eventually appears, or if the Hearst overlords have deemed your fact-spitting somehow detrimental to the auction. [Edit - the comments were approved and appeared 5/17 AM, see post below.]

In the meantime, definitely copy/save your post if this happens, and/or screenshot it with the timestamp & save that too.

 

[duuder]

Both comments showed up

 

[otoupalik]

Hi all. I was invited as I am posting on this BAT thread. For background, I was part owner in evosport, and we did a lot of black series work. I also have a ton of track and street time in x63 chassis cars

I am really disgusted with this thread on BAT. The secrecy, the deletion of information, the intentional gatekeeping. It’s really a shame. We are car people. We never hid crap,like this.

 

[otoupalik]

And now they flagged my comment as non constructive, the one calling out BAT for deleting posts!

 

[gsxr]

And now they flagged my comment as non constructive, the one calling out BAT for deleting posts!

Yep. The censorship there is really, really annoying! Also, there have been mixed reviews of the work by Kwiek. Can't say anything on BaT about it though...

 

[otoupalik]

I would never do a conversion with someone who won’t tell me the exact parts used! Lol

 

[Draginev]

Part 2 is out and the car is now as 100% OEM as it can be, including no more PRND and working Reverse lights and backup camera.

Anderzen driving in a suit with M156 manual, can you not be more classy?

 

[duuder]

Hi all. I was invited as I am posting on this BAT thread. For background, I was part owner in evosport, and we did a lot of black series work. I also have a ton of track and street time in x63 chassis cars

I am really disgusted with this thread on BAT. The secrecy, the deletion of information, the intentional gatekeeping. It’s really a shame. We are car people. We never hid crap,like this.

proud to say i have one of @otoupalik 's cars, it's been great and i just got back from a cruise rn!

 

[duuder]

Not a glamor pic

 

[duuder]

the Black Series sold for 138k plus fees... it was sold on bat for 88k in 2023 (reverted back to OEM spec) then sold to OTS before the manual conversion (cost15k)

 

[gsxr]

Really curious if the new owner will post any feedback after taking delivery and spending some time driving an ESP-less BS stick shift.

 

[anderzen]

years later we'll see how the dust settles on all this, we all just gotta keep enjoying these things as much as possible

for anyone interested in a conversion, I am doing customer cars but realistically only have bandwidth for 4-5 cars per year. feel free to reach out if interested. Old cars, new cars, V engines, in-line, 6, 8, 12 cyl, coupe, sedan, vert, limo, SUV lol I will figure it out!
cheers!