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Interior parts being remanufactured

Nice. Would love to hear from anyone who has bought stuff from here, hopefully the quality is good. Perfect application for this technology.
 
I believe these guys were mentioned the other day, regarding the NLA rear bumper closeout panels which they offer for several hundreds of dollars. If I remember correctly someone on here bought a set from these guys…..

 
I know nothing about this place but you never know if these aftermarket places are going to start making quality stuff. Take a look.
 

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I ordered last week from them the two sides of the rear panels: C126 Seat Belt Side Cover / presenter cover (W126) - OctoClassic
We had a bit of hard time agreeing about the color, so they sent me a reference picture of their colors. Although my C126 interior is what in the US we call "mushroom", on their chart it appeared to be closer to cream beige. Fortunately I also have one side brand new in original color, so when I get my pieces I can post pictures.

FYI - I paid $200 on the original piece I have, NOS, US driver side. Also. I think @56Ford ordered a set or so from them, but I might be wrong.

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OMG. Not another 'shroom debacle. :banghead: :banger:

Mushroom is technically not a color name, it's the name generally associated with interior color code (xx5), and may appear in the EPC. However, AFAIK, for all 1980's models in USA, this would be the same color and was indeed called "Cream-Beige". Look at any dealer sales brochure from the 80's, they should all show "Cream Beige". You won't find "mushroom" anywhere except in the EPC charts, maybe... I looked up a 126 and it showed "cream" for interior xx5. Just as a nickel is a coin but a coin isn't necessarily a nickel, cream-beige/cream is mushroom, but mushroom isn't necessarily cream-beige/cream.

Specific color codes are always FOUR digits in length and vary by the material (plastic, vinyl, velours, fabric, leather, etc). These must be looked up in the EPC charts.

Things get worse in the 1990's as MB had different color variants of mushroom/xx5, changing to Parchment for facelift 124 chassis, and although pre/post facelift may have the same xx5 interior code, the colors are visibly different and 4-digit colors codes are different. Same with code xx4 (Date), which changed from Palomino to Saddle for facelift 124. Oh, and the name Java didn't exist until around 2000?

Anyway. The chart shown above is both technically inaccurate AND confusing. A business that specializes in this stuff (1) should know better, and (B) should do their homework so they aren't giving customers misleading information that may result in receiving the wrong color.

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Well, the main takeaway from my story was that the colors they show may be a bit misleading, no debacle intended. I did give them the two pictures below showing the OEM interior plastic color code (8412) but that still didn't help. So, I thought my experience may help somebody ordering from them in the future. Just in case...

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They don't know their own business, which is embarrassing for them. Your interior is obviously cream-beige, and they should be able to determine that based on model year and interior code from your VIN. It boggles the mind that they do not understand this and publish inaccurate color charts.

Ask them about Saffron and Quartz, just to stir the pot.

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You won't find parts marked with Mushroom, you will come across some marked Champignon, as in the case of this R129/A124 rear view mirror base.
 

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OMG. Not another 'shroom debacle. :banghead: :banger:

Mushroom is technically not a color name, it's the name generally associated with interior color code (xx5), and may appear in the EPC. However, AFAIK, for all 1980's models in USA, this would be the same color and was indeed called "Cream-Beige". Look at any dealer sales brochure from the 80's, they should all show "Cream Beige". You won't find "mushroom" anywhere except in the EPC charts, maybe... I looked up a 126 and it showed "cream" for interior xx5. Just as a nickel is a coin but a coin isn't necessarily a nickel, cream-beige/cream is mushroom, but mushroom isn't necessarily cream-beige/cream.

Specific color codes are always FOUR digits in length and vary by the material (plastic, vinyl, velours, fabric, leather, etc). These must be looked up in the EPC charts.

Things get worse in the 1990's as MB had different color variants of mushroom/xx5, changing to Parchment for facelift 124 chassis, and although pre/post facelift may have the same xx5 interior code, the colors are visibly different and 4-digit colors codes are different. Same with code xx4 (Date), which changed from Palomino to Saddle for facelift 124. Oh, and the name Java didn't exist until around 2000?

Anyway. The chart shown above is both technically inaccurate AND confusing. A business that specializes in this stuff (1) should know better, and (B) should do their homework so they aren't giving customers misleading information that may result in receiving the wrong color.

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You won't find parts marked with Mushroom, you will come across some marked Champignon, as in the case of this R129/A124 rear view mirror base.
...and the name still does not identify the color, only the interior code (xx5).

In the photo below, the 4-digit suffix -8F30 positively identifies the actual color, in this case it is Parchment, on 1994-95 124 chassis.

Repeating what I said above, Parchment 8F30 is a subset of Champignon xx5, but Champignon is not necessarily Parchment.

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...and the name still does not identify the color, only the interior code (xx5).

In the photo below, the 4-digit suffix -8F30 positively identifies the actual color, in this case it is Parchment, on 1994-95 124 chassis.

Repeating what I said above, Parchment 8F30 is a subset of Champignon xx5, but Champignon is not necessarily Parchment.

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Yes, its from a 94 W124 cabriolet. The point I was making was that the term mushroom or Champignon is used by Mercedes to identify a color. Wasn't debating which color, FWIW, I have only seen it attached to 94/95 parts.
 
Yes, its from a 94 W124 cabriolet. The point I was making was that the term mushroom or Champignon is used by Mercedes to identify a color. Wasn't debating which color, FWIW, I have only seen it attached to 94/95 parts.
Understood. The point I was making was that the term mushroom or Champignon is used to identify a color code.

Those terms cannot identify a specific color.
 
I think @56Ford ordered a set or so from them, but I might be wrong.
Yes I did order the seat belt presenter "Sails" for a C126 and am happy with the quality of the part and the service from Octoclassics. The color is "close enough" considering the 30 years of sun and aging with adjoining materials/colors. And this color is Palomino even though my official color is Saffron from what I understand on the data card.

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I am finding that Palomino is about the only color universally understood by the un-anointed, non-classic MB providers. I recovered all of my seats earlier this spring and the upholsterer with over 40 years of experience insisted the Saffron color was actually Palomino, we could call it whatever we wanted, but trust him, this was the only leather available to recover the MB seats in this coloring and was called PALOMINO...He said other upholsterers would be happy to call it Saffron but would also be ordering Palomino. Again, all things considered, "close enough".

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Yes I did order the seat belt presenter "Sails" for a C126 and am happy with the quality of the part and the service from Octoclassics.
Couple of question please:
1) How hard was the insertion of the chrome rails (one for each side) into the sail? I noticed it may not be that easy.
2) Once installed, how do the sails fit on the car (dimensions, curves, etc.)?

Thanks!
 
Yes I did order the seat belt presenter "Sails" for a C126 and am happy with the quality of the part and the service from Octoclassics. The color is "close enough" considering the 30 years of sun and aging with adjoining materials/colors. And this color is Palomino even though my official color is Saffron from what I understand on the data card.
The name on the data card is not always accurate. You cannot trust what the datacard shows for ANY color names, and that includes paint colors. I think datacards are the source for a lot of the name confusion, people assume the EPC/datacard names must be correct, and they are not.



I am finding that Palomino is about the only color universally understood by the un-anointed, non-classic MB providers. I recovered all of my seats earlier this spring and the upholsterer with over 40 years of experience insisted the Saffron color was actually Palomino, we could call it whatever we wanted, but trust him, this was the only leather available to recover the MB seats in this coloring and was called PALOMINO...He said other upholsterers would be happy to call it Saffron but would also be ordering Palomino. Again, all things considered, "close enough".
Palomino is the correct name for interior code xx4 in North America through the early 1990's. MB didn't start screwing with different interior shades until 1992 USA model year. From 1992 onward, it's a mess.

AFAIK, the name "Saffron" did not exist until the mid/late 1990's. And Saffron is not the same color as Palomino. I cannot find any reference to the name Saffron in North American dealer sales/color brochures through at least the early 2000's. It might be a name used in Europe but not USA/Canada. If European forum members have any brochures or MB documentation that show the name "Saffron", I'd love to figure out what years/chassis it refers to.

The only foolproof identifier is the four-digit color code number from the chart in the EPC. Note that the EPC shows code xx4 as "Date" while the USA sales brochures always called this "Palomino". Color/code #8326 would be correct for your car, no matter what name is attached to the number.

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Couple of question please:
1) How hard was the insertion of the chrome rails (one for each side) into the sail? I noticed it may not be that easy.
2) Once installed, how do the sails fit on the car (dimensions, curves, etc.)?

Thanks!
Good eyes Roy and correct, not that easy. The sail replacement requires some time for removal of original part and fitting of the replacement while dealing with the 30 yo sun soaked, brittle rail and attached quarter cover. The posted pic was in-process as I had finished up for the day and trying to figure out why the end was kicking out. The groove in the chrome rails were a smidge thinner than the plastic base of the new sail and not of uniform thickness. Instead of opening up the groove of the chrome rail I put a strip of 220 paper with adhesive backing on a glass window pane that I use for flat sanding and sharpening. I sanded/lowered the base of the sail until it fit into the chrome groove with trial and error fitting.

It needs a very snug fit without risk of bending the chrome assembly or breaking the attached quarter panel trim and was a bit touch and go on sliding and pressing the pieces together. Definitely takes a little time and finesse. If I did this job again I would consider removing the entire panel and doing it on a bench but not sure.

Aside from the base the dimensions and curves were spot on and I would say the new plastic was more "solid" than the replaced piece but do not now if that was due to different material recipe, age of existing piece or likely both.

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AFAIK, the name "Saffron" did not exist until the mid/late 1990's. And Saffron is not the same color as Palomino.
Good to know as I got Saffron from an overseas decoder website from BW after inputting my serial # and it seemed to get all of the other options correct on the car. My dad had used the terms Palomino and Tobacco from time to time to describe the color and will f/u on the EPC. Thanks
 

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