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MBUSA Dealer Window Stickers by Year

gerryvz

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Below are actual examples of dealer window stickers used by MBUSA, by model year. Research shows that it appears MB used the same sticker format from the late 1980s through 1995.

There was also a definitive change in model year 1996.


1991
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1992
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1993
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1994
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1995
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1996
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I'm going to use my 1995 dealer window sticker as the basis for the remanufactured ones I'm going to do. This is because it was tucked away in an owner's manual packet, and never saw the light of day after the car was delivered. Most of the other ones that one sees are faded and/or yellowed. The one I have is very very fresh and crisp, and also has no glue marks on it, and still has the perforated area at the bottom with the vehicle's VIN number on it (which is usually torn off upon application or removal).
 
I've received a couple of dealer windshield stickers for E500Es from folks.

Many thanks to those who have sent. I would like to get additional ones for reference, particularly from a 1994 model if possible.

It's not going to be that big of a deal to create these windshield stickers. However, they won't be truly accurate unless/until I know the location where the car was brought into the country at; the prep center before it was sent to the dealer; and the selling dealer's name. That's the kicker.

There are only a limited number of ports of entry, so this is not a huge deal. The biggest deal is the selling dealer. The best place to find that information is in the first stamps in the service booklet, if you have yours available. The selling dealer will also give a good idea of where the prep center was for the car.

If you have a VMI (Vehicle Master Inquiry) for your car, then you can look for the "Selling Dealer" place, and it will provide a five-digit code. For my car, from its VMI, this Selling Dealer code is 05721.

The Wiki provides a list of these codes and their corresponding dealers. This list is here: https://www.500eboard.com/forums/wiki_index.php?title=Mercedes-Benz-USA-Dealer-Codes

In my case, there is no dealer with code 05721, so this means that my car's original selling dealer either went out of business, or it changed hands and/or moved and was issued a new code. All of the other dealerships with "057XX" dealer codes reside in Southern California (between LA and San Diego), so it's very very likely that my car was sold by an Orange County dealer when new.

I'm going to create a dealer windshield sticker for my car in the coming weeks, and post it here. If folks like what they see, then I'll move for additional graphics, production and process improvements and move the windshield stickers into production. At that time, I'll have a better idea of what I'll have to charge for them, but it will likely be in excess of $100 per windshield sticker, because of the time, expense and oversize postage involved to ship the windshield stickers to keep them flat. This is going to be a significant up-front investment of many hours.

Cheers,
Gerry
 
MB Ports of Entry (E500E time frame):
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Houston, TX - ?
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Los Angeles, CA

MB Vehicle Prep Centers (E500E time frame):
  • Midwest: CHICAGO
  • South/Southeast: JACKSONVILLE
  • NorCal/Pacific Northwest: SAN FRANCISCO
  • East Coast/New England: BELCAMP/NY (Belcamp, MD - located north-east of Baltimore)
  • East Coast/Mid-Atlantic: BELCAMP/WASH (Belcamp, MD - located north-east of Baltimore)
  • SoCal/Southwest: LOS ANGELES

MB Vehicle Transporters (E500E time frame):
  • Northern California/Pacific Northwest: Sierra Mountain
  • Florida/Southeast/South: Centurion Auto Transport
  • Mid-Atlantic/East Coast/Midwest: Nu-Car Carriers, Inc.
  • Mid-Atlantic/East Coast/Midwest: E&L Transport Company
  • Southern California/Southwest: Port Terminal Transport, Inc.
 
Interesting my red car VMI shows the dealer number 67242 which is not on the list. However, I noticed all the PA dealers start with 67 and this car came from PA. VMI indicates all the warranty works was done by dealer 67267, Sun Motor Cars, Inc. in Mechanicsburg, PA.
 
It's likely that your car is from a dealer that moved or changed owners, and then was assigned a new number.

Part of the problem with my list in the Wiki is that it is a relatively current list, not the list that would have covered all of the dealers back in the early to mid 1990s. So, a lot of the numbers have changed.

I've never been able to get a comprehensive list of dealer numbers from "back in the day" when our cars were new, unfortunately. I've tried a number of sources.
 
I've got the base dealer window sticker scanned that I'll use as the foundation. I now need to begin the laborious process of cleaning it up, pixel by pixel. It's a high-resolution (600dpi) scan. That process will begin soon, but first the new one-year contract will be initiated for the XenForo-based site. That contract will be purchased tomorrow (Friday), and installation of the software and add-ons will begin over the weekend.

I would still like to get a photo of a 1992 and particularly a 1994 model year US dealer window sticker. If you have such, please let me know and/or e-mail me at gerry@vanzandt.us

Cheers,
Gerry
 
It's likely that your car is from a dealer that moved or changed owners, and then was assigned a new number.

Part of the problem with my list in the Wiki is that it is a relatively current list, not the list that would have covered all of the dealers back in the early to mid 1990s. So, a lot of the numbers have changed.

I've never been able to get a comprehensive list of dealer numbers from "back in the day" when our cars were new, unfortunately. I've tried a number of sources.

Would a printed/bound dealer directory that MB used to stuff into the glove box possibly provide the list & crosswalk you need? I come across them every now and then on ebay. Perhaps the code is provided with the dealer entry.
 
No, it won't. That booklet is a consumer-level booklet (and I have at least 30 of them in my collection, from various years) that just illustrates to owners where their nearest stealerships are, or are located in case they break down whilst traveling. These booklets mainly contain maps and address data by state for the current dealer roster at the time.

What I'm looking for is a list of five-digit MBNA dealer codes that was used internally by MBAG and MBNA to reference specific dealers.

I do have the examples of the window stickers that I need. They are scanned and I am (slowly) in the process of putting the first, sample, window sticker together. Preparation of each sticker is going to be around 4-5x the amount of work required for a data card, due to the specifics for each car and the amount of text that has to be formatted for each sticker.

Should be a nice project, however.
 
No, it won't. That booklet is a consumer-level booklet (and I have at least 30 of them in my collection, from various years) that just illustrates to owners where their nearest stealerships are, or are located in case they break down whilst traveling. These booklets mainly contain maps and address data by state for the current dealer roster at the time.

What I'm looking for is a list of five-digit MBNA dealer codes that was used internally by MBAG and MBNA to reference specific dealers.

I do have the examples of the window stickers that I need. They are scanned and I am (slowly) in the process of putting the first, sample, window sticker together. Preparation of each sticker is going to be around 4-5x the amount of work required for a data card, due to the specifics for each car and the amount of text that has to be formatted for each sticker.

Should be a nice project, however.

I'm in when you get to production, I'd go for 2, except one is a Japan build..
 
I've received a couple of dealer windshield stickers for E500Es from folks.

Many thanks to those who have sent. I would like to get additional ones for reference, particularly from a 1994 model if possible.

It's not going to be that big of a deal to create these windshield stickers. However, they won't be truly accurate unless/until I know the location where the car was brought into the country at; the prep center before it was sent to the dealer; and the selling dealer's name. That's the kicker.

There are only a limited number of ports of entry, so this is not a huge deal. The biggest deal is the selling dealer. The best place to find that information is in the first stamps in the service booklet, if you have yours available. The selling dealer will also give a good idea of where the prep center was for the car.

If you have a VMI (Vehicle Master Inquiry) for your car, then you can look for the "Selling Dealer" place, and it will provide a five-digit code. For my car, from its VMI, this Selling Dealer code is 05721.

The Wiki provides a list of these codes and their corresponding dealers. This list is here: https://www.500eboard.com/forums/wiki_index.php?title=Mercedes-Benz-USA-Dealer-Codes

In my case, there is no dealer with code 05721, so this means that my car's original selling dealer either went out of business, or it changed hands and/or moved and was issued a new code. All of the other dealerships with "057XX" dealer codes reside in Southern California (between LA and San Diego), so it's very very likely that my car was sold by an Orange County dealer when new.

I'm going to create a dealer windshield sticker for my car in the coming weeks, and post it here. If folks like what they see, then I'll move for additional graphics, production and process improvements and move the windshield stickers into production. At that time, I'll have a better idea of what I'll have to charge for them, but it will likely be in excess of $100 per windshield sticker, because of the time, expense and oversize postage involved to ship the windshield stickers to keep them flat. This is going to be a significant up-front investment of many hours.

Cheers,
Gerry
Are you still pursuing this project? I just found my 1995 sticker ticked in the owners manual.
 
Yes, but I’ve not put any time into it in the past months to get it from 70% to the 100% mark. I will.
 
Does anyone reproduce the window sticker?
Yes, but the only ones I've seen are expensive... like $100-150. I haven't found a lower-cost option yet. Also not sure how accurate these are - where do they get the data for vehicles with lots of a-la-carte options, like most W211 chassis for example?
 
If anyone knows of a lower-cost source for the USA window/Monroney stickers, please let us know!

:apl:
 
I'm 2/3 of the way through my Monroney project, but haven't devoted any time to it for months.
 
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I'm contemplating doing US dealer "window stickers" next. These would be significantly more expensive (and larger), though.

And, that's a lot more complicated as well! There are decent repops available on eBay [edit: for WINDSHIELD decals, not MSRP sheets] . The tricky part is making sure you are getting a period-correct item, as the [windshield] stickers changed about five times over three decades.

:pc1:

I have never seen a proper and appropriate window sticker reproduced by MBUSA.

What I would need to reproduce the window stickers would be photographs of a real 1992, 1993 and 1994 sticker. I have the base sticker from the time period, but it doesn't have E500E specifics. So, I would need to have them from multiple E500E years to ensure proper accuracy. To really make them accurate, I'd also need each owner to get the appropriate information as to the actual port of entry (there were multiple ports used), original selling dealer, and so forth. There is a LOT more work involved with a window sticker than with a data card, which has stock info that is lifted from the EPC.

It's likely that each window sticker would run probably in the $100+ range due to the amount of custom work involved, and I don't know if most owners are "down" with getting the information I'd need to create a truly accurate sticker.

I'm not worried about copyright issues on a throwaway MB window sticker for a car that is 25 years old.

My research this morning (posted in this thread) shows that MB used the same format of dealer window sticker through model year 1995, so it is a single form that covers all of the years of the E500E, as well as the late W/C126. This means that after I do a full scan of my window sticker, I can spend some time cleaning it up and creating the first draft "mockup" of it.

What I need from folks here, is an actual photograph of a 1992/1993/1994 dealer window sticker, if you possess such. I am sure that a number of you have them; I would appreciate a cell phone photo (close up) of your complete sticker so I can match the text appropriately to my scan. I also need to carefully match and balance the color scheme as part of the initial "clean-up"/mock-up process. If you can take a photo of your window sticker for me, please e-mail your photo to me at gerry@vanzandt.us

Then I can begin to offer this as a service.

Some further research also shows that MBUSA in some cases can provide copies of original window stickers, and in other cases cannot -- or will not. It is inconsistent. However, it appears that MBUSA DOES have copies in their archives of each car's dealer window sticker. Approximately 20 years ago, I was able to contact MBUSA to obtain a photocopy of the original window sticker for my 1969 300SEL 6.3.

Another avenue could be to go to the originating stealership where one's car was sold, if known. It is likely that they also have copies/records of window stickers for particular sold cars.

Cheers,
Gerry

I was curious to see if you had made any progress on the reproduction window sticker idea?

Yes I have ... but I am not quite ready to unveil yet. Soon. The wait will be worth it.

If anyone knows of a lower-cost source for the USA window/Monroney stickers, please let us know!

:apl:

I'm 2/3 of the way through my Monroney project, but haven't devoted any time to it for months.

After quite a long time, I am FINALLY ready to commence production on the Window Stickers for the 500E and E500. This will cover all US model years.

I will post up the window sticker for my own car as a first example for people, in the near future. This is an EXCELLENT and EXACT reproduction of the window sticker. There is considerable custom information on each one, that includes the VIN, engine number, PO number, port of entry info, car carrier company info, and vehicle prep center info. This will be different for each car, though the car carrier, vehicle prep center and point of import will be REGIONAL (there were only a handful of these, so various stickers will share this information based on what part of the US they were originally imported to).

A lot of research went into getting the correct vehicle preparation centers, and more importantly, the car carrier companies that originally transported the cars. The last thing is to find the selling dealership and provide that info. That is not particularly easy stuff to get.

This is completely different from the data cards. The data cards are relatively easy, because ALL of the information exists in the EPC. It's just a matter of taking EPC data and transcribing it to the data card format and artwork.

Contrast this with the window stickers. I'll bet that the majority of you don't know where your car was originally sold (location/dealer). This necessitates ME to research and find this information for you. Again, more time and work on my end to get the information, in addition to then preparing it on the sticker.

I am VERY excited to offer these window stickers.

I will NOT have any stickers available for the 400E/E420 at this time, nor the W126, though this could be an option in the future (building off of the work that I have done). Some of this extra work would be based on demand -- I would likely need to have a bunch of orders of each to justify doing the work.

The original window stickers are printed on very very very thin paper. I am working to source this paper for printing them out, so that the stickers are as authentic as possible. I will NOT include the "perforated" edges of the window stickers, many of which were torn off by dealership personnel anyway. I have no way to punch holes into the edges of the paper, anyway.

The window stickers are very definitely going to be $125 EACH. If there is interest here to spend this money to get them, great. If not, then I'll just do my own based on the many dozens of hours of research and labor that I've already got into the project, and call it a day.

As with the data cards, I will provide THREE printed copies, and also the high-res (TIF) and low-res (JPG) files to you for download. The stickers will be of the correct physical size. The stickers will be professionally printed, not done on my home printer, due to the size requirements. This professional printing will be included in the price, but it will also likely affect the price.

Again, all I have to do is to find the correct thickness (thin-ness) of paper.

Again, these window stickers are likely to be around $125+ postage paid due to the amount of custom work that has to be done. I will try to ship them in a large flat format reinforced by cardboard, or in a tube, so that they are not folded or creased. You know the quality of the data card reproductions that I've done. These window stickers will be the same level of quality.

Cheers,
Gerry
 
One other thing, is that the design of the windows stickers changed as of June, 1993.

This means that "facelift" cars (E500s) will have a slightly different sticker design than 500E owners for years 1992 and 1993.

It's not significantly different, but elements of the sticker are re-arranged, and there are changes in what is on the sticker.
 
Gerry, when you get the right paper stock and are ready to publish I'm very interested. I know it's probably a long shot, but is it possible to do the same for my Bornite-Japan build 500E as well? If not then I'll just take one for my 199 USA build 500E.

hanks for all your efforts in doing this, and in everything else you have done to make this forum great... it's really appreciated..

Thanks, and have a safe Thanksgiving, the wife and I are standing our ground, and not attending the normal family holidays meals.
Our relatives are all scuffing at the risks and are not happy with us at all. I just hope the next family gathering after this one isn't a funeral.

Regards...Oscar
 
I haven't done any more work on getting the correct weight paper stock. It is very very thin paper. I am likely going to have to have the stickers commercially printed on this paper, rather than doing it myself as I do with the data cards.

I could not do a Japan-build 500E, simply because it is a non-US car and would not have ever come with a US-type window sticker. It would not be right to "create" a US window sticker for a non-US car.

We too are not going anywhere for Thanksgiving, nor are we (like we usually do) have any of Laura's family over as Thanksgiving guests. Even the US Naval Academy midshipmen whom we sponsor, are not allowed to leave the campus, go home, or anything else. So it's me, Laura, and Chase (the dog). Just as I want it.

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Umm.....at the risk of being perceived as slightly rude ..... how would JwashE know to look for a post about Monroney window stickers, in a thread titled Reproduction Data Cards?

:watchdrama:

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Well ..... it does seem to be in THREE of the first five search results.

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And given that I had just, merely a couple of weeks ago, provided an update ..... in a thread where it was discussed / brought up, per the numerous items I quoted in my update / reply .....

Remember, that search results are weighted, with the most relevant + most recent result being presented first.


:searchdammit:
 
Well ..... it does seem to be in THREE of the first five search results.
...and still titled "NOW AVAILABLE: Reproduction factory data cards", followed by a bunch of irrelevant threads. I'd cut Jwash some slack, but that's just me.

:grouphug:
 
Well, seeing as the Data Card thread veered off topic, let me move the Monroney-related posts from that thread, into this thread. If you see things like that happening (posts veering off topic), by all means please moderate them and move veering posts to the appropriate thread (if existing) or into a new thread (if a new topic).

Not talking about any one person, but it has become a significant problem, in my opinion, that people refuse to perform searches on this site for information, and rather just type what comes into their head. If folks do a search, and don't come up with anything, that's fine. But all I ask is for people to actually use the search engine that we have. It really is quite good, and I have done and continue to do a lot of tuning of it to make it even better.

Just yesterday there was a question about rotor brackets. So instead of the original poster doing a search, specifically on this topic where there is a PLETHORA of information on the forum, I had to waste 10 minutes of my time, on a work-day morning, to do the damn search myself, find/isolate/quote the results, go to your site to find and then get the links to the three rotor-bracket photos, and then compose the post. The search took all of 10 seconds to type in and perform. I just wish other people could do this.

So yeah, I get a little cranky and a bit rude sometimes, because I feel like I spend significant time re-inventing the wheel around here. One thing I guess I can do, is to make the "Search" blank a very prominent and large element that is at the top/center of EVERY page displayed, so that it encourages people to use it more.
 
TOTALLY agree about lack of searching, resulting in either multiple threads on the same topic, or a thread getting derailed into something different!! This particular scenario was a bit different though, IMO.

(y)
 
TOTALLY agree about lack of searching,
Again, ZERO issue if someone does a search and can't find what they are looking for.

If this is the case, feel free to say "I searched using these terms (X, Y and Z) and couldn't find any answers. Thus, I am asking this question now....."

I totally get that the terms "Monroney" (a slang term, but used here nonetheless) and "window sticker" will result in different search results. But actually DOING the searches, and looking at the results, will have enough overlap that clicking on the results that pop up will allow the user to find the relevant thread(s) that have the recent updates from me.

"Monroney" search results:
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"Window sticker" search results:

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:mushroom::mushroom::mushroom:
 
I would definitely be interested but would like to see the sample before confirming order.
 
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I have not yet posted the sample of the Monroney window sticker. I am making some final adjustments to it. I expect to have it completed and posted this holiday weekend.

As you can imagine, these stickers are MUCH more involved than the smaller and simpler data cards. At present, I have more than 45 hours of labor into this project (that’s more than a full work week) and I expect another 4-5 hours before I post the sample copy.

It is rapidly becoming apparent to me that I am going to have to have any stickers commercially printed due to their size, in addition to the probably 3 hours of custom work that each new Monroney will require for proper and accurate production.

Not only is VIN and other vehicle specific information required for each Monroney, but the selling dealer information has to be added, as well as the regional vehicle transportation company that was used, and the original port of importation added.

Most owners of E500Es do not have this information, as they are typically second to 8th or 10th owners of the cars.

This means that the onus would be on me to research, confirm and then add this information to the Monroney. Not to mention other information such as the dealer installed options, destination fees and tax info.

Furthermore, THREE separate versions of the Monroney documents have to be created and maintained — not only due to pricing differences between the years, but also because the 1992 and 1993 Monroney design/layout is a bit different from that of 1994 cars. This necessitates a completely new development cycle for Monroneys for 1994 car owners.

What all of this means, is that these Moneoneys are going to be expensive to create — both from a labor perspective, and from the perspective that they will need to be commercially printed.

My original estimate is likely going to be around one-half of the actual cost. I refuse to give away my labor and commercial printing costs for free.

Right now, I am estimating that the cost for me to do a truly proper, accurate and faithful reproduction of a Monroney will be around $250. I expect this is MUCH MORE money than 95% of people here are willing to pay.

There is a company out there who is providing Monroney reproductions for MB owners, for what is very likely a more reasonable price than I will be able to do it. I do not know the quality or accuracy of their reproductions, but it is a safe bet that they will NOT research and then provide all of the vehicle specific information, import port, transporter and selling dealer information that would be needed to make a truly accurate Monroney. Let alone the correct type of thin paper, and so forth.

I will provide the information for this company, and interested parties can order from them and report back on accuracy. Heck, I will probably even order one myself for my car and compare with what I am doing. I expect I would be disappointed. I seem to recall that the repop Monroneys from this company range between $100 and $200 depending on options.

Bottom line here is that I want to be realistic and set expectations. This is turning out to be a project that will probably not be of much interest to people from a cost perspective. I may be wrong about that, but that’s why we have the thread here to discuss, and it is why I am laying my cards on the table as things currently stand.

Cheers,
Gerry

P.S. As of basically now, I am shutting down further production of all data card reproductions that I have been doing over the past few years.

I have one person who requested one card last week, but orders have slowed down over the past 12-18 months.

Thus, I will officially shut down data card productiion, permanently, effective this Thanksgiving weekend. I will indicate this in the data card thread.

I sincerely appreciate the business over the past 4 years or so from more than 150 owners of W124, 126, 107, 129, 201, 202 and 140 models I’ve done the data cards for.
 
The company offering reproduction Monroney stickers is called Stuttgart Studios.

Here is their main web site: Stuttgart Studios Portfolio of Completed Monroney Window Sticker Projects

Pricing information: Pricing and Options | Stuttgart Studios Reproduction Window Stickers

Here are a few samples of 1980s and 1990s Monroney stickers, including a 1994 Monroney they evidently did for @Maui:

1981 300SD (W126):
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1994 E500 (W124) -- for @Maui:
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1986 560SL (R107):
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1989 560SL (R107):
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These Monroney stickers only appear to be simple clean-ups of existing stickers supplied by customers, rather than creating ALL NEW stickers from scratch, with new data.

They also do not appear to be on the correct thin paper that MB used at the time (and some are laminated). Furthermore some of the colors are too crisp and dark ... essentially it is too easy to tell that these are not original stickers.
 
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I was just putting the finishing touches on my repro sticker last night. Unfortunately they are too much effort for me to create ones for other people, and I think too prohibitive in cost for most folks. Mine isn’t a novelty though. It is an exact repro and will be on the correct paper 😉
 
Ballpark, what do you think the cost would be. I am highly interested in a window sticker! I think there are a lot of members that would be interested. Perhaps a poll to find out?
 
Likely it would be at least $150 per sticker, perhaps $200. Nobody wants to pay that much, for a sticker, even if it was not a "novelty item" as the other repops are being billed, and it was indistinguishable from the original sticker, as mine is.

If you want to make a poll, fine.

I will post a copy of my own sticker when I'm done with it. Right now I'm trying to make progress toward making 126board.com public and available to all.
 
See link in post #38 to Stuttgart Studios who currently offer this service.

The link in post #39 is already DOA, as the BanzWorld overlords deleted the thread and the user "WindowStickers100" who dared offer reproduction window stickers on their sacred forum. He was offering more of a novelty-level repop at <$40, not a reproduction that would be difficult to distinguish from the originals. As Gerry said, that level of reproduction is extremely time-consuming and therefore expensive.

There's another place online offering affordable ($8) electronic Monroneys (click here) but they may only have them for 2006+ models of Mercedes.

:matrix:
 
I preface by saying I have not read every post word for word.

Gerry, I can help if the cost is the "labels". If you have the graphic file reproduction and it simply needs to be printed on the window sticker with exact dims, product, liner, etc. then reach out offline. If you're printing the blank and somehow laying the dot matrix on it, then you're a much better person in terms of authenticity than most. But I can help there too.
 
I believe @gerryvz may no longer be interested given the laminex issue etc.

However, for ROW is it even possible to determine the original sticker price of a given model? That is - accurately.

Say my German delivered 1992 500E I guess you could use a base price and the option list but is it really possible to determine 30 odd years after the fact exactly what the original owner paid? I think not.

I do sometimes wonder when I look at my cars who went in and ordered it. And if they had any idea it still existed and was restored what would they say now? Would they remember it brand new still? That must have been something else back in the day going to collect your new w124 / w140 / 500E
 
US cars only had a couple of options, and at a fixed price as was the car price by year, including destination/delivery charge and gas guzzler charge. The price for US cars is simple.
 
Correct. I’m done dealing with people for group buys and custom projects. Too many cranky and demanding people for how much time and effort I have spent doing the right thing and providing a good product.

so yes, zero interest in making these for people. Folks can go to Stuttgart Studios and buy a “novelty” Monroney for $125+.

I will still continue to sell parts.
 

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