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Radio Follies

alfagta

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'92 500E.
Finally got the radio out in anticipation of sending all the sound system off to Becker to fix problems of buzzing and sound only on one side.
With the radio out of the slot but still hooked up it's showing "code" from a previous battery disconnection.
I entered the 4 digit code (correct as confirmed by MB via email) but nothing happens. "Code" stays on the display. No numbers ever show up. Antenna goes up when radio powered on.
Questions:
1. Is there some part of the code entering process that I'm missing? Something other than just pushing in the numbers in sequence?
2. Are the numbers supposed to show up on display as they are being entered?
3. Is there something about having the radio out of it normal position that disallows me entering the code?

Thanks. Bill
 
For what it's worth, in our '95 E420 you enter a five-digit code then press the 'SC' button. I don't remember if the numbers appear while inputting.
 
The SC button does not exist on the BE-1432 head units -- only the 1492s used on the facelift cars. Also, the 1432s utilise a four-digit code, whereas the 1492s have a five-digit code.

I believe for the earlier cars/head units, you must push the * button after you enter the numbers.

:klink3:

:mushroom:
 
[EDIT - MY EXPERIENCE IS W THE BECKER SUPPLIED 1432]

For the 1432, you don't need to push the * button. I have entered my own code in my own 1432 a plethora of times, and I have not needed to place my finger anywhere near the mysteriously cryptic * button. Actually, the true function of the * button is unknown. No one knows what the F the * button is for. Perhaps pushing it will visit nuclear devastation upon you. That would not be desirable, and most likely come with deleterious side effects. But, I can confirm that it is not needed to enter in the code. Sorry.

I do vaguely remember, though, if you enter in the wrong code too many times that you will have to LEAVE IT ON for several hours on end for it to heal itself and allow you to enter in the code again. This extract from the manual might help:

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For the 1432, you don't need to push the * button. I have entered my own code in my own 1432 a plethora of times, and I have not needed to place my finger anywhere near the mysteriously cryptic * button. Actually, the true function of the * button is unknown. No one knows what the F the * button is for. Perhaps pushing it will visit nuclear devastation upon you. That would not be desirable, and most likely come with deleterious side effects. But, I can confirm that it is not needed to enter in the code. Sorry.

I do vaguely remember, though, if you enter in the wrong code too many times that you will have to LEAVE IT ON for several hours on end for it to heal itself and allow you to enter in the code again. This extract from the manual might help:

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Let me set things straight here. This information is borne from both personal experience, and from the MB "StarTuned Magazine," -- a publication that is published by MB internally for the benefit of its technicians.

First of all, MB had a bunch of different schemas, and models, and manufacturers of their radios over the years. Not all MB radios were automatically manufactured by Becker. Many if not most were, but there were also other manufacturers; and some of these manufacturers' radio operation processes and schemas were different from the "Becker" way of doing things -- despite the radios looking and operating otherwise similarly.

Second of all, I once owned a 1992 300TE Wagon (my first MB -- yes, I had an M103), and it had a factory MB BE-1432 type (two-piece style) radio. I can very definitively tell you that I used the "Star" button "*" as the last key entry after the four-digit code, to finalize entry of the code into the system once the power was cut.

If the power was interrupted, and an incorrect code was entered three times, the radio would post a "WAIT" (or "HOLD") moniker on the screen, and make the user wait (with the radio powered up) for 10 minutes (in some radios this was 15 minutes) until the "CODE" moniker re-appeared on screen, and entry could commence. If an incorrect code was entered three more times, the "WAIT/HOLD" moniker would re-appear -- this time for 60 minutes (on some radios; others was 24 hours). After 60 minutes/24 hours, one could again attempt to re-enter codes. On some radios, if three more incorrect codes were entered, the radio would show the "WAIT/HOLD" moniker, and this would last 24 hours before re-entry could again be attempted.

Third of all, there were two different types of radios that were put into MBs during the 1991-1993 "two-piece" years. These were made by Alpine, and by Becker. The Becker units only required a four-digit code to be entered via the keypad, with no "ending" key required, before proceeding to the tuner. The Alpine units required a four-digit code, and then the "*" button to be pressed afterward, and then the radio would make a "beep" sound and then proceed to the tuner and provide sound.

I hope this helps shed a little more light on the fact that my original post was not incorrect.

Fourth of all, the function of the "*" key in all two-piecer Becker 1432-style radios was to provide a manual tuning entry mechanism. Meaning, that if you did not want to use the "SEEK" or "SCAN" up and down button-bars, you could hit the "*" button, and use the numeric buttons to directly enter your desired frequency. So, if I wanted to listen to KITS ("Alt 105") ... formerly "Live 105" in the San Francisco Bay Area, I would hit *1053 on the two-piece style radio, and I would immediately be taken to that alternative-rock station.

Fifth of all, I have attached information, taken directly from the September, 2004 issue of Mercedes-Benz "StarTuned Magazine," that provides details that they gave to technicians about how to enter codes on certain types of radios used in the 1990s in Mercedes-Benz models.

I hope all of this information is helpful.

Cheers,
Gerry


Process for 1991 Alpine-supplied units
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Process for 1994 & 1995 ("Facelift") Alpine and Becker-supplied units
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Digging a little deeper into additional occult workings of the 1432 * (function control) button:

—L/R balance: * then Treb/Bass;

—In CD changer mode: * then hold forward or reverse music search buttons = audible fast forward or reverse with elapsed playing time displayed;

—Also CD playing: * then “CR” (tape selection) button = total # of tracks on playing disc;

—Also CD playing: * then mode button = length of time disc has been playing.

Probably even more possible waiting to be discovered...

Now if I could just find the combination of 2 (or 3?) buttons that will mute it, that’d be real progress.
 
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I need the combination of buttons on a 1692 that clear the "CLEAN TAPE" alert. I use a cassette adaptor for bluetooth and every few months I get this nanny gripe.

Dan
 
Yeah, I used a cassette adapter for some years on my 1492. Had that same crap, and got darn tired of it. Finally I got a cable that plugs one end into the cd changer plug on the back of the radio, and the other is a wide (early) ipod connector. I still use an 80 GB ipod as nothign else holds as much music (except a 160 GB ipod). It's quaintly sort of vintage now, but works well and holds A TON of tunes.

Our Navy midshipman we sponsor was intrigued when I picked him up at the Naval Academy the first time with the E500. He'd only really ever known putting music on phones, and sort of didn't see the purpose for having a dedicated music device.

Thinking out loud, I guess that ipod IS pushing 20 years old, lol. About the same age as our mid.
 
Digging a little deeper into additional occult workings of the 1432 * (function control) button:

—L/R balance: * then Treb/Bass;

—In CD changer mode: * then hold forward or reverse music search buttons = audible fast forward or reverse with elapsed playing time displayed;

—Also CD playing: * then “CR” (tape selection) button = total # of tracks on playing disc;

—Also CD playing: * then mode button = length of time disc has been playing.

Probably even more possible waiting to be discovered...

Now if I could just find the combination of 2 (or 3?) buttons that will mute it, that’d be real progress.
Watch out !!! All that "*" button info may well make @Jlaa's head explode !!!
 
Watch out !!! All that "*" button info may well make @Jlaa's head explode !!!

I told you, you guys that have Becker 1492s are totally missing out on occult, cryptic workings of the * button. Every post details yet more capability of the * button. It is just a matter of time until we figure out how the * button facilitates nuclear catastrophe. Such is the sadomasochistic characteristic of the proper 500E driver. :deniro:
 
Yeah, I used a cassette adapter for some years on my 1492. Had that same crap, and got darn tired of it. Finally I got a cable that plugs one end into the cd changer plug on the back of the radio, and the other is a wide (early) ipod connector. I still use an 80 GB ipod as nothign else holds as much music (except a 160 GB ipod). It's quaintly sort of vintage now, but works well and holds A TON of tunes.

Our Navy midshipman we sponsor was intrigued when I picked him up at the Naval Academy the first time with the E500. He'd only really ever known putting music on phones, and sort of didn't see the purpose for having a dedicated music device.

Thinking out loud, I guess that ipod IS pushing 20 years old, lol. About the same age as our mid.

I have a Becker BE1682 in my S210 wagon that has the aux input modification from Becker. I connected my iPod mini to it and the sound is awful. Now understand that this is a BE1692 with a Bose system, so it's a pretty decent stereo. You can feel the bass on your leg hairs if you crank it up and are wearing shorts.

On a whim I had a cassette adapter that does bluetooth that I tried out. The quality of the sound using the iPod mini with the bluetooth cassette adapter is amazingly good, and noticeably better than using the auxiliary input. I have no idea why this is so, I'm just saying that this has been my experience.

If there was a drawback I have to charge the bluetooth cassette adapter every couple of weeks. Otherwise, I leave it in the radio all of the time. This is why I get the "CLEAN" alert.

Dan
 
It's always struck me as strange on the 1432 that the L/R balance is handled w '*' then the bass/treble adjustments, instead of the arrows for FF/Rewind, although using the star w those triggers seek.
 

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