FOR SALE 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Black, 126kmi, $40k (Nashville, TN)

[gsxr]

UPDATE 1: For sale by new owner/flipper/dealer in TX, thread title updated with new miles/price/location. See post #12 for details.

UPDATE 2: For sale by new owner/flipper/dealer in TN, thread title updated with new miles/price/location. See post #37 for details.

UPDATE 3: Price reduction from $50k to $48k, Dec-2024. See post #49 for details.

UPDATE 4: Price reduction from $48k to $40k, Sept-2025. See post #51 for details.


1992 500E, Pearl Black/Black, 123kmi, $20k (Brazoria, TX)

No affiliation. This was initially listed at $13,500 and less than 24 hours later the price jumped to $20k, apparently the seller figured out they under-priced it. Appeared to sell within the following 24 hours or so. Documenting here for posterity, and for when the flipper relists for $40k. Might still be listed as "one owner" on a skipped title, lol.

VIN = WDBEA36E4NB799587

Datacard: https://www.lastvin.com/vin/GKamyADZe4NE0M5QL

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/422148563151848/

 

[gerryvz]

No prior record of this car in my private database, although I have a car that is two numbers away in VIN.

 

[stickyvicky]

THIS CAR LOOKS BETTER THEN MANY OTHERS FOR SALE, WE WILL SEE IT FOR 40K SOON I GUESS

 

[bunty660]

paint looks great for what could be a repaint based on badge placement on trunk.

 

[Glasgo_Chris]

my friend bought this car

 

[maw1124]

my friend bought this car

What did your friend say about the seller?

maw

 

[janos_z]

...and is your friend going to keep it or flip it?

 

[C061]

my friend bought this car

Who is your friend ?

 

[gsxr]

Who is your friend ?

Apparently just a dude who won the 036 Faceplant lottery...

 

[Jimbo]

Gosh, 20K is a steal today for these cars....even if it needs some work.

 

[maw1124]

Gosh, 20K is a steal today for these cars....even if it needs some work.

At that rate I could have had a @gsxr fleet for the money I put into mine….

Not quite, but you see the point.

maw

 

[Bogeyman]

1992 500E, Pearl Black/Black, 126kmi, $45k (Houston, TX)

This car is showing on Hemmings from a Houston Dealer - "Driver Source". Asking $45K.

Dealer says "Will not last!". Don't know if that is referring to mechanical condition or what?


https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/listing/1992-mercedes-benz-houston-tx-2767944

https://www.driversource.com/vehicles/1591/1992-mercedes-benz-500-e

DESCRIPTION​

​

1992 Mercedes-Benz 500E​

VIN No. WDBEA36E4NB799587​

Engine 119974 12 005123​

Transmission 722365 03 737368​

Color: BLUE-BLACK - METALLIC PAINT (199U) over Gray (71)​

Upholstery: LEATHER ANTHRACITE (271)​

Production: June 1992​

​

The ''wolf in sheep's clothing'' jointly developed between Mercedes-Benz and Porsche​

Powered by the 5.0-liter ''M119'' V-8 Engine, factory-rated at 326 hp​

Desirably Specified with rear roller blind, an electric sunroof, electrically adjustable steering column, heated electrically adjustable front seats with memory function, and automatic climate control and more!​

Exceptionally Preserved in Stock Configuration​

Complemented by Proper 17'' Evo Wheels (original wheels included)​

A Splendid example of one of Mercedes-Benz's most revered production models​

​

The Mercedes-Benz 500 E utilized an engineering relationship with Stuttgart-based neighbor, Porsche. The latter company was briefed to stretch the front frame rails of the Mercedes-Benz W124 chassis to accommodate the newly Le Mans-tested ''M119'' V-8 powerplant in the engine bay.​

Fitment of the potent-yet-compact 5.0-litre, 32-valve, quad-cam, short-stroke, all-aluminium engine necessitated uprated suspension and brakes in order to handle the additional power, while affording it the dynamics of a genuine E34-generation BMW M5-rivalling saloon.​

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The addition of the uprated suspension and brakes required 56mm of additional wheel arch width, meaning the car simply would not fit down the Mercedes-Benz Sindelfingen production line. The result was a complex build process whereby Porsche adapted the chassis before Mercedes-Benz painted it, then Porsche hand-assembled the car before Mercedes-Benz signed it off. Each phase required transportation between the two assembly lines, resulting in an assembly time of 18 days per car.​

​

The end package, however, was outstanding. The 500 E enthralled the motoring media and was instantly and widely proclaimed as one of the best sport saloons of all time. Modest criticism arose only when it came to the car's cost; because of the complex production and engineering processes, the model cost more than DM 130,000 when new, with the equivalent BMW M5 closer to DM 80,000.​

​

This well-optioned and well-presented example is accompanied by original books and emergency equipment. The rarity of Stuttgart's two rival powerhouse manufacturers joining forces, makes this potent and collaborative effort quite special.​

​

$44,500.00​

Will Not Last!​

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To learn more about this vehicle, please contact our sales department at (281) 497-1000 or[Email Dealer]​

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INTERESTED SELLING YOUR CAR or COLLECTION?​

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Our Philosophy is Selling Made Simple! We Are A Leading Buyer of Fine Motorcars since 2005. We Purchase Classic European Sport Cars - One Vehicle or Entire Collection​

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ASKING PRICE: INQUIRE​

​

SELLER​

Driver Source​

Houston, Texas 77079​

281-497-1000
http://www.driversource.com

 

[canyoncarco]

They claim $13k spent on maintenance from 2021-2023...could have at least replaced the awful air intake tubes. Possible deck lid paintwork from poorly placed emblem? Pedestrian W124 rear glass?

 

[gsxr]

They claim $13k spent on maintenance from 2021-2023...could have at least replaced the awful air intake tubes. Possible deck lid paintwork from poorly placed emblem? Pedestrian W124 rear glass?

$4k of that $13k could be Evos and tires. EDIT - the wheels are Maxilite replicas, not genuine Evos.

Pity about the wrong rear glass, that's not easy nor cheap to replace (if even available). Odd that the emissions decal is missing above the driver headlight, but is present above the passenger headlight. Hmmm. @cascade, is that Stage III or IV of DDD?

Looks like a dealer picked it up in summer 2022 and a title was issued in summer 2023.

 

[maw1124]

"Notable 2021-2023 Services Performed, $13,000 Invested
• Refurbished Braking, Cooling, Fuel, Ignition, Air Conditioning and Suspension Systems
• New Fluids, Filters, Tires, and Suede Headliner
Successful 2023 Tejas Turismo : Texas Hill Country Rally Participant"

My guess is that car will be quickly sold at $45k and no one will care about zoom tubes or NLA rear glass or emissions decals.

That said, the wheels and interior are doing the most for the car's condition. But they can't get headlight doors, or intake tubes without coming here, unfortunately.

maw

 

[gsxr]

I'd want to see receipts / details for the following. This could either be great stuff for the new owner, or marketing fluff with no substance:

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• Refurbished Braking, Cooling, Fuel, Ignition, Air Conditioning and Suspension Systems​

 

[maw1124]

I'd want to see receipts / details for the following. This could either be great stuff for the new owner, or marketing fluff with no substance:

​

• Refurbished Braking, Cooling, Fuel, Ignition, Air Conditioning and Suspension Systems​

Table stakes... no one is taking their word.

maw

 

[bclifton]

I'd want to see receipts / details for the following. This could either be great stuff for the new owner, or marketing fluff with no substance:

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• Refurbished Braking, Cooling, Fuel, Ignition, Air Conditioning and Suspension Systems​

Kind of a stupid question here - and not really something I care about with my 300D. But curious for all the DIY work I've been doing (or let's say seller did the work themselves for this car in question), would it be worthwhile to create an invoice or some kind of record that could be shared (staple the parts purchase to it, etc)?

 

[gsxr]

Kind of a stupid question here - and not really something I care about with my 300D. But curious for all the DIY work I've been doing (or let's say seller did the work themselves for this car in question), would it be worthwhile to create an invoice or some kind of record that could be shared (staple the parts purchase to it, etc)?

In general, if you can keep a paper trail to show future buyers, that would be very helpful. At a minimum the record/receipt for the part purchase. A full invoice of some sort would be awesome, but quite a bit of work.

I struggle with this also, and compounding the problem is that since I have a dozen cars, my part orders include parts for multiple different cars. If I copy the part receipts and put them into each different vehicle folder, it looks like a bunch of other parts were ordered... so then I'd need to identify each item separately on the receipt, etc. Which is why I just keep an XLS for each vehicle with date/miles/repair/cost, but I'd have to locate the specific part receipt manually if a buyer wanted to see that.

 

[maw1124]

I struggle with this also...

No... you're the @gsxr... put that rep to the test like Sir @deanlaumbach

maw

 

[sheward]

I also have more than one MB. I keep a paper and pencil detailed log of each car and an overall receipt file where one could identify a receipt and match it to a service. This should be good for all but the truly hopelessly suspicious. It's enough work just doing the wrenching.

 

[nocfn]

Was this owned by previous board member here in Houston?

 

[canyoncarco]

Carfax report attached for reference.

 

[nocfn]

Ahh this is not the one owned by the individual I was thinking of, but I am aware of another black one (3 actually) here in Houston. This one I was thinking of had TGA do about 30k of work all at once, and it included upper oil pan gasket replacement in addition to several other common engine replacement items on the top side.

 

[maw1124]

Now at Bonhams Amelia...

Bonhams Cars : 1992 Mercedes-Benz 500E VIN. WDBEA36E4NB799587

4,973cc DOHC V-8 Engine Electronic port fuel injection 315bhp at 5,700rpm 4-Speed Automatic Transmission 4-Wheel Independent Suspension 4-Wheel Disc Brakes *The muscular Q-Ship of the W124 family *Recent no-expense-spared maintenance *Blue-Black Metallic over Anthracite Leather *Genuine 17" Evo...

cars.bonhams.com

maw

1992 Mercedes-Benz 500E
VIN. WDBEA36E4NB799587​

4,973cc DOHC V-8 Engine
Electronic port fuel injection
315bhp at 5,700rpm
4-Speed Automatic Transmission
4-Wheel Independent Suspension
4-Wheel Disc Brakes

*The muscular Q-Ship of the W124 family
*Recent no-expense-spared maintenance
*Blue-Black Metallic over Anthracite Leather
*Genuine 17" Evo wheels, originals included <-- GSXR EDIT: The wheels on the car are NOT GENUINE EVO. They are Maxilite replicas.
*Unique Mercedes-Benz super-saloon co-developed and built by Porsche

THE MERCEDES-BENZ 500E

Mercedes-Benz introduced a muscular new W124 at the 1990 Paris Salon. The 500E super saloon had been developed with surprise assistance from Porsche, and was even hand built at Porsche's Zuffenhausen factory, with its subtly widened bodywork hiding a potent 5.0-liter, 32-Valve V8, massive brakes, and reworked suspension.

The production process involved each and every 500E being transported back and forth between the Mercedes plant and Porsche's Rossle-Bau factory in Zuffenhausen; each car taking a full eighteen days to complete. Despite possessing all the luxury accoutrements associated with a flagship Mercedes-Benz, the 500E was lighter than the 500 SL sports car. Powered by the latter's 326bhp V8 engine, the 500E delivered shattering performance, reaching 100km/h (62mph) in 6.1 seconds and topping out at around 260km/h (162mph), yet retaining the vault-like quality and dependability that made the standard W124 a legend.

THE CAR OFFERED

The Mercedes-Benz 500E offered here hails from 1992 and is an excellent, cherished example benefiting from recent cost-no-object maintenance and showing 125,421 miles at the time of cataloguing. Beautifully presented in Blue-Black Metallic (199U) with gray cladding and Anthracite leather (271), it looks particularly fetching sitting on factory 500E Evo wheels. For the purist, the original alloys will be included. Options include the rear roller blind, heated electrically adjustable memory front seats, automatic climate control, adjustable steering column, sunroof, and Becker Grand Prix 2000 radio.

The consignor reports that between 2021 and 2023, this car received $13,000 in maintenance to the fuel system, ignition, cooling system, climate control, suspension, and brakes. The suede headliner was replaced, and the car received new fluids, filters, and new Continental tires. It has been enjoyed as intended, participating in the Tejas Turismo, Texas Hill Country Rally in 2023. Original books, owner's manuals, warranty card, emergency accessories, Carfax Report and recent service records are included.

The 500E is a rising star for collectors, appealing to both Mercedes-Benz and Porsche enthusiasts alike, or anyone who appreciates a rock-solid, mile-crushing muscle car in a finely tailored suit.​

 

[gsxr]

Is it just me, or do some of those service invoices look fishy/fake...? Kinda like the work was done in-house and nobody actually paid $13k for that work? Sort of, "$13k value of work performed"?

@cascade may need undercarriage photos for a proper keyboard PPI, which of course we won't see prior to auction on Feb-29.

 

[maw1124]

They look a little weird with no vendor shown on them, no signature, and the PAID stamp literally in the exact same spot on the paper. It almost looks like a computer template. But I don't doubt the work was done. I didn't bother to reality check the hourly work rate. Car looks worse than its mileage to me.

maw

 

[gsxr]

They look a little weird with no vendor shown on them, no signature, and the PAID stamp literally in the exact same spot on the paper. It almost looks like a computer template.

EXACTLY.

But I don't doubt the work was done.

Me neither, but I'm not crazy about fictional invoices that imply $13k changed hands, when it may not have.

 

[maw1124]

Well well well... look what we have here, for sale once again.

1992 Mercedes-Benz 500E - Worldwide Auctioneers

listings.worldwideauctioneers.com

maw

 

[Jtwoods4]

Well well well... look what we have here, for sale once again.

1992 Mercedes-Benz 500E - Worldwide Auctioneers

listings.worldwideauctioneers.com

maw

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I had the notification pop up in my email also. Looks like they just copy and pasted the details from the Bonhams auction. So what's the consensus on this car? Has anyone seen this car in person? From reading the thread it seems you guys think the car is a little fishy and not a really nice one. Correct me if I'm wrong but this will be the third time the car has sold in the last 2 years.

 

[gerryvz]

Third time this year (2024) that this car is up for sale via various vendors / auction sites.

 

[Jtwoods4]

Third time this year (2024) that this car is up for sale via various vendors / auction sites.

Oh wow! I wonder what is wrong with it?

 

[gsxr]

Oh wow! I wonder what is wrong with it?

Possibly nothing major, other than the price? Hard to say. Also see posts 26-28 above. If interested, consider an independent PPI by a shop that knows 124's / M119's well.

 

[Kevallino]

This just popped up in my email..says sold for $38K.

Edit - checked the Hammer Price app and apparently it sold both at Bonhams AND Worldwide for $38K - once in February and now again in April...see attached.

 

[Jtwoods4]

I wouldn't have touched that car with a 10-ft pole.

 

[TerryA]

To me, It looks like it’s being passed around. Probably owned by the same Dealer.

 

[Bogeyman]

Now showing on Hemmings out of Nashville by seller "Hip Rides" for $50K - makes Runaround Sue look like an amateur....

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/listing/1992-mercedes-benz-500e-nashville-tn-2793835

DESCRIPTION​

1992 Mercedes-Benz 500E 5 Liter V-8 Producing 315 HP with 4 Speed Automatic Transmission, 125,478 miles. 1 of only 4416 Produced for 1992. Beautifully presented in Blue-Black Metallic (199U) with gray cladding and Anthracite leather (271),Factory 500E Evo wheels and New Continental Radials. Options include: Rear roller blind, Heated electrically and Adjustable Memory front seats, automatic climate control, Cold Air Conditioning, Power Adjustable steering column, Factory Sunroof, and Becker Grand Prix 2000 radio.​

The 500E Sedan had been developed with surprise assistance from Porsche, and was even hand built at Porsche's Zuffenhausen factory, with its subtly widened bodywork hiding a potent 5.0-liter, 32-Valve V8, massive brakes, and reworked suspension.​

Between 2021 and 2023, this car received $13,000 in maintenance to the fuel system, ignition, cooling system, climate control, suspension, and brakes. The suede headliner was replaced, and the car received new fluids, filters, and new Continental tires. Original books, owner's manuals, warranty card, emergency accessories, Clean Carfax Report and recent service records are included.​

 

[gsxr]

New TN dealer paid $42k for this plus transport from TX to TN... probably in it for $45k, and is listing for $50k?

I'm no math wiz nor a business savant, but them there numbers don't make sense.

Also, I didn't know "Cold Air Conditioning" was optional equipment. Wonder what code number that is.

 

[maw1124]

That's a lot of work for $5k. I'm thinking some sort of "consignment."

I see used car dealers have gone from being car guys back to being used car dealers again.

maw

 

[emerydc8]

I know they are NLA, but the de-laminated zoom tubes need to go! Why would they not find a set for $50k. It just ruins the whole picture.

 

[allmack]

Coming up again at GAA on November 8, 2024:

https://www.gaaclassiccars.com/vehicles/41238/1992-mercedes-benz-500e

 

[duuder]

Heheh.. the zoom tubes

 

[gerryvz]

Jesus, at a minimum just get a can of black spray paint and put them out of their misery…..

 

[gsxr]

Coming up again at GAA on November 8, 2024:

https://www.gaaclassiccars.com/vehicles/41238/1992-mercedes-benz-500e

Bump for tomorrow's auction.

 

[gsxr]

Coming up again at GAA on November 8, 2024:

https://www.gaaclassiccars.com/vehicles/41238/1992-mercedes-benz-500e

Looks like the auction ended RNM. Anyone know how to tell what the high bid was?

 

[allmack]

Looks like the auction ended RNM. Anyone know how to tell what the high bid was?

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It faded at $35 then staggered to finish at $40 and was "sent to the deal doctor."

 

[DerFuror]

Lordy! That’s the finest zoom tube patina I’ve ever seen. Completely unmolested.

 

[coltongreer21]

Beautiful

 

[gsxr]

It faded at $35 then staggered to finish at $40 and was "sent to the deal doctor."

Slight price reduction on Hemmings to $48k.

 

[luky]

Hi, as people from this board have also helped me when I was putting together the list of G63 V12 VINs (BTW. I´am still missing at least one VIN of the LB:MA 2002...) I have decided to post here the list of special AMG Gs I have gathered this far. Of some cars I have the VINs of the whole production run of some other cars I have just a few VINs of some I have just one example... If you have more such VINs please share them

Original list on: Gwagen Register - Login

W460 M117
WDB46023917034497- silver M117 5.0 GfG was selling a few years ago
WDB46023327047390- silver M117 5.0 UK reg D765 XJN there are rumours of Al-Maktoum ownership
WDB46023317063078- silver with M117, added by Gav

500GE 6.0
WDB46322817089832 (46023117000851 on the chassis!!! swap in Norway...)
WDB46322817090077
WDB46322817090969 (on the VIN plate is wrong VIN WDB46322817090968!!!)
WDB46322817091768
WDB46322817098593
WDB46322817098610
WDB46322717098644 (SWB!)
WDB46322817098680

290GD BM9 3120mm with OM603 DE35LA
WDB46132917098543- white, maybe a tractor pulling AMG’s racing trailer for DTM races?? GfG was selling something like this in the past

G36 XL Friedrichs/Binz GON (Russian gov´t protection)
WDB46323117103271
WDB46323117103277
WDB46323117103278

G320 5.6 AMG M117(.968)
WDB46323117102585- colour on datacard like 500GE but was heavily modified in Russia so probably black nowdays

G320 5.0 AMG M117
WDB46323117103562
WDB46323117103563
WDB46323117103564
WDB46323117106178 (armoured, ex-Gazprom)

G320 5.0 AMG M119
WDB46323117104253- blue-gray
WDB46323117104254- green

Puch G36 armoured by Wendler
VAG46323117912005- blue, ex-Serbian Ministry of interior

Puch G36 BM1 Cabrio with manual roof (only 2 G36 Cabrios with with Puch VIN ever built)
VAG46320817911961
VAG46320817913377

Puch G36 BM3 SWB (the only G36 SWB with Puch VIN ever built)
VAG46323017912897

G36 RHD conversion (LHD VIN)
WDB46323117109788- blue, ex-Brunei?, UK reg G3 NRT

G43 AMG (G320 chassis)
WDB46323317110319- black

G55 BM3 SWB
WDB4632401X117926- silver on datacard but the car is repainted gray

G63 V12 BM6 (M137 engine)
WDB4632481X126891- silver
WDB4632481X127620- white
WDB4632481X127643- white
WDB4632481X127865- white, house of Al Maktoum previous ownership

G55 Cabrio BM1
WDB4632541X132192

XXL
WDB4632481X127011- G63 V12 white (M137)
WDB4632481X127595- G55 silver
WDB4632481X131812- G55 silver
WDB4632481X133325- G55 silver
WDB4632481X134357- G55 silver
WDB4632481X134358- G55 black
WDB4632481X134481- G55 silver
WDB4632481X146467- G55 black mysterious car with penant holders and Russian labels but not registred in Russia (must be in some other ex-USSR country)
WDB4632431X147137- G55 special sand colour, special photo truck rumours say for some Middle Eastern royal family but French labels
WDB4632701X164158- G55K blue, again a mysterious car Russian labels but not registred in Russia (must be in some other ex-USSR country)
WDB4632701X195557- G55K black GON
WDB4632721X242805- G63 black

G55K RHD conversion (with LHD VIN)
WDB4632701X163237
WDB4632701X165071
WDB4632701X165271
WDB4632701X172412

G320CDI hunting cabrio AMG/Binz (the bug-eyed monster)
WDB4633031X169485- green, cabrio converted to a hunting truck by AMG and Binz, UK reg. MY07JMA

G55K with M157 engine G63 prototype- added by Gav
WDB4632701X185265
WDB4632701X185276

G63 6wheeler proto which isn´t on the list
WDB4632721X197484- Paladium silver on the datacard but the car is white, saw it in Graz 11 Sept 2018

G500 Squared protos- added by Gav
WDB4632341X223564- Kawasaki green
WDB4632341X226341- Lamborghini orange