FYI 1990 500E, Almandine Red/Black, TMU, restored €0.18M (Lippstadt, Germany)

[036]

Feb-1990 500E:

https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/w124-500e-komplett-restauriert/2683877329-216-1845

"I am offering a completely restored Mercedes Benz W 124 500e. The vehicle has undergone years of painstaking restoration and has been lovingly restored. The vehicle is in absolute top condition with no faults, let alone scratches, it has not been registered since 1996 and has been garaged for more than 15 years. The only previous owner only drove the car on Sundays, there is much more to tell about the history, I am still in contact with the previous owner and he will also decide the buyer​

It is not a distress sale therefore​

please only serious offers​

Viewing in Kassel, further information by phone."​

Bad joke.....

 

[kubasz]

Steep price for a non E500 headlight E500

 

[doolar]

Now that’s a price and a half! A restored car is never original again, and that reflects on the value of it, and not positive, especially at the upper collectors level.

 

[Jimbo]

One of my favorite colors for the .036...

 

[steve h]

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"I am offering a completely restored Mercedes Benz W 124 500e. The vehicle has undergone years of painstaking restoration and has been lovingly restored. The vehicle is in absolute top condition with no faults, let alone scratches, it has not been registered since 1996 and has been garaged for more than 15 years. The only previous owner only drove the car on Sundays, there is much more to tell about the history, I am still in contact with the previous owner and he will also decide the buyer
It is not a distress sale therefore
please only serious offers
Viewing in Kassel, further information by phone."

Bad joke.....

Everybody can dream.......overpriced massively....

 

[gsxr]

It was in rough enough condition to need a bunch of new sheet metal, then it was devalued by performing a facelift as well? The wrong headlights are a bonus. Needed to take photos BEFORE the thick undercoating stuff was applied... what's lurking underneath? Also, no mention of the odometer reading prior to the rotisserie.

But - this 500E is extra special, because it has 390hp!!!

 

[500AMM]

This is member SayHay's car - Aleksander from St.Petersburg, Russia:

Almandin 500E long going restoration. | Member Roadtrips and Project Journals

Hi guys! I have decided to start my thread here. 500e was my dream car from the time of my first car - a 1987 c124, after few years i have bought one with 300 000km on odo in rather good condition. This is photos how it look like:

www.500eboard.co

We have all enjoyed seeing the huge amount of NOS parts he has collected over a long time, he is really dedicated to the car. Aleksander hasn't been logged in here since 2019, however it is really surprising to see the car for sale with absolutely no referenced documentation to the deep going restoration.
I have a bad gut feeling about that ad, could someone check out that seller Digaudio on Kleinanzeigen?

 

[500AMM]

Look at the image of the interior, this is what the car looked like before the resto work started with dirty floor mats, and where is the Brabus st.wheel, the Brabus shift knob, the Reccaro seats? And the big brake kit? the Brabus wheels? Most of the blurry images are screenshots from this forum.
That ad smells fraud business on a mile distance!

I've sent a PM to the seller asking for more specific information.

 

[AdamCabrio]

This is member SayHay's car - Aleksander from St.Petersburg, Russia:

Almandin 500E long going restoration. | Member Roadtrips and Project Journals

Hi guys! I have decided to start my thread here. 500e was my dream car from the time of my first car - a 1987 c124, after few years i have bought one with 300 000km on odo in rather good condition. This is photos how it look like:

www.500eboard.co

We have all enjoyed seeing the huge amount of NOS parts he has collected for his car, he is really dedicated to it. Aleksander hasn't been logged in here since 2019, however it is really surprising to see the car for sale with absolutely no reference to the deep going restoration. I have a bad gut feeling about that ad, could someone check out that seller Digaudio on Kleinanzeigen?

IMHO this is confusing the topic. SayHay's (Russian) car is clearly NOT the car that TS @036 is talking about.

What bewilders me about the Lippstadt car (with astounding asking price of € 0.18M): the last picture suggests that it is a North American delivered car (speedometer in miles and a check-engine control light), not a originally German-delivered car. No mention of it in the sales text. And it would only have been driven on Sundays? Plus: I agree with @gsxr: what about that 390 hp?? This is an unusual way of trying to sell a car IMHO.

 

[a777fan]

IMHO this is confusing the topic. SayHay's (Russian) car is clearly NOT the car that TS @036 is talking about.

What bewilders me about the Lippstadt car (with astounding asking price of € 0.18M): the last picture suggests that it is a North American delivered car (speedometer in miles and a check-engine control light), not a originally German-delivered car. No mention of it in the sales text. And it would only have been driven on Sundays? Plus: I agree with @gsxr: what about that 390 hp?? This is an unusual way of trying to sell a car IMHO.

Indeed. With complete 1492 conversion as well. Vin indicates a 1990 build, right?

 

[036]

We dont have a VIN....

 

[gsxr]

That reminds me. Were there any 124.036 chassis manufactured in FEBRUARY of 1990? I thought production started in late 1990. And of the early 036, were there any early 1990's in Almandine?

 

[WDB748372]

That reminds me. Were there any 124.036 chassis manufactured in FEBRUARY of 1990? I thought production started in late 1990. And of the early 036, were there any early 1990's in Almandine?

The first Almandine was with an approx build date of 07-1990 (WDB1240361B313009) and the first with leather black interior (271) is WDB1240361B337054.

I couldn't find anything that matches this vehicle for sale given the 2/1990 date. Closest one would be WDB1240361B468438 that's 2/1991 (Almadine, leather black, heated seats, rear shade, no aux heater)

 

[gsxr]

The first Almandine was with an approx build date of 07-1990 (WDB1240361B313009) and the first with leather black interior (271) is WDB1240361B337054.

Chassis B313009 shows engine & transmission numbers 000000. I wonder if that's an error in the datacards? Screenshot below.

I couldn't find anything that matches this vehicle for sale given the 2/1990 date. Closest one would be WDB1240361B468438 that's 2/1991 (Almadine, leather black, heated seats, rear shade, no aux heater)

I'm guessing either 1990 is a typo and they meant 1991 (or 1992), or the entire listing is fraudulent.

 

[WDB748372]

I wonder if that's an error in the datacards?

Most likely. Maybe it's an equivalent to the datacards without an engine/transmission number. I generally see these are the very beginning of production though. I recently was able to access the EPC database directly and the data is a bit messy where some FINs apparently do not exist or there are duplicates. Add the errors within the FIN datacards too or something like the closed-deck cut-off. Not everything in their data is 100% accurate to begin with so I don't think it's an error specific in the datacards but just little things throughout.

I'm guessing either 1990 is a typo and they meant 1991 (or 1992), or the entire listing is fraudulent.

I would assume if it were really fraudulent then the seller probably wouldn't mention Viewing in Kassel or be willing to meet in person. I am even more curious about the VIN though.

 

[036]

Chassis B313009 shows engine & transmission numbers 000000. I wonder if that's an error in the datacards? Screenshot below

It is correct.

PS Note that there is NO engine Nr.2.......

 

[maw1124]

Look at the image of the interior, this is what the car looked like before the resto work started with dirty floor mats, and where is the Brabus st.wheel, the Brabus shift knob, the Reccaro seats? And the big brake kit? the Brabus wheels? Most of the blurry images are screenshots from this forum.
That ad smells fraud business on a mile distance!

I've sent a PM to the seller asking for more specific information.

Agreed. Looks like a fraudulent ad using @SayHey pictures, at least to me spending less than 3 mins on it.

maw

 

[500AMM]

IMHO this is confusing the topic. SayHay's (Russian) car is clearly NOT the car that TS @036 is talking about.

What bewilders me about the Lippstadt car (with astounding asking price of € 0.18M): the last picture suggests that it is a North American delivered car (speedometer in miles and a check-engine control light), not a originally German-delivered car. No mention of it in the sales text. And it would only have been driven on Sundays? Plus: I agree with @gsxr: what about that 390 hp?? This is an unusual way of trying to sell a car IMHO.

Well, I don't know what that fucker on Kleinanzeigen try to sell, but images #1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 14, 15 in his ad - are in SayHay's restoration thread here on the forum. And the other images, except for the last image of the interior which is of another car, are on the Russian blog Drive2.RU where SayHay posted a lot more images of his resto work.

 

[036]

After friend of mine started asking questions advert was removed.

 

[500AMM]

I sent a couple of messages to him and the answer is that he has to see my ID.

 

[TimL]

I sent a couple of messages to him and the answer is that he has to see my ID.

View attachment 184479

But he told you why he needs to see your ID, @500AMM(!) It's "because there are a lot of cars and nobody knows the place".

Why don't you understand that providing your ID will obviously imbue immediate knowledge of "the place" to all parties involved and it might even cure world hunger(!)

Digaudio for President

 

[036]

https://www.drive2.ru/r/mercedes/e_class/288230376151915177/

Owner review​

all the latest on instagram: w124500e
Finally bought what I wanted for a long time - E500 W124, the car that I was looking for, but didn’t find, and ended up buying a Subaru (which I don’t regret)
I just brought it from Moscow. It feels great on the track the FX seems wooden after it, but based on the dynamics it’s still not clear who’s going faster

I like everything about the car, there are minimal plans for modifications - I want to eliminate all minor cosmetic defects, bring the technical part into full working order, change the wheels and complete it with all sorts of original accessories that are assigned to it according to the VIN code.
After the cosmetic work is completed, I will arrange a good photo shoot, and then new beautiful photographs will appear.

Model 124.036 500 E / AMG 500 E 6.0 E 500 / E 60 AMG
Engine 119.974 12 005238
Transmission 722.365 03 743988
Body color 512 (almandine red metallic)
Interior trim 271 (Leather black / anthracite)

Options:
241 Electrically adjustable driver's seat with memory.
291 Airbag for driver and front passenger
310 Antenna with splitter for telephone network C on the left rear fender (from 01.02.1986)
Antenna for telephone network C on the left rear fender, for S 124 on the right rear fender
412 Electric hatch with lifting device
441 Electrically adjustable steering column
540 Electric blind for rear window
551 Anti-theft alarm system
570 Folding front armrest w202/210 storage box with armrest (from 01.04.1970)
Folding front armrest w202 storage box with armrest
620 The vehicle is equipped with a catalyst
682 Fire extinguisher (from 04/01/1970)
814 Active subwoofer (from 01.10.1989)
873 Electric heating of front seats (from 02/01/1984)

PASSPORT DETAILS​

• Engine 5.0 petrol, 326 l. With.
• Automatic transmission
• Rear drive
• The car was produced in 1993 and was purchased in 2011.
• Mercedes-Benz E-class (W124) produced since 1984
• License number E500

Description changed 7 years ago

 

[Jim Rosenthal]

He wants to see your ID.. how interesting. I don't think I would get within a mile of that place.

 

[036]

Engine 119.974 12 005238

So than....WDB1240361B802616

Mercedes VIN Decoder | Decode Your Mercedes-Benz VIN

Datacard for 1992 Mercedes-Benz 500 E (124.036) - WDB1240361B802616

www.lastvin.com

 

[500AMM]

SayHay hasn't been logged on here since June 2021, has anyone seen his car or himself on other forums?

 

[036]

He is on drive2. Not here.

 

[500AMM]

He is on drive2. Not here.

OK, can you reach out to him and ask if he could chime in with some updates please? His resto job is really nice to follow.

 

[036]

Well, last update on this car was 5 years ago... and i don´t know him personaly.

 

[036]

SayHey sold this car around 5 years ago.