FOR SALE 1995 E36 AMG, Midnight Blue/Blue, 116kkm, BaT N/R Auction (New Canaan, CT)

[Bogeyman]

Rare bird... code 957 in the data card.

VIN: WDB1240521C261714

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Datacard for 1995 Mercedes-Benz E36 (124.052) - WDB1240521C261714

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No Reserve: 1995 Mercedes-Benz E36 AMG Coupe

Bid for the chance to own a No Reserve: 1995 Mercedes-Benz E36 AMG Coupe at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #173,007.

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[gsxr]

Went from Germany to Japan to CT with registration in MT for tax avoision. As noted in the comments, it has Japan/LHT headlights, but thankfully since these are pedestrian 124 lights it won't cost >€5k to get correct ones installed. Appears to have a new upper harness which is good (NLA), but likely zero records/history.

Neat car, but desperately needs either a front bumper filler panel, or a Euro-style plate mounted, to not look terrible. The gaping hole in the middle is just an eyesore.

 

[gerryvz]

A punch list for this car would be a welcome addition to this thread.

 

[nocfn]

that pesky PUNCH LIST after all these years still makes me chuckle...

 

[gsxr]

 

[nocfn]

now if you get "Banzworld" on the end of that punch it would be purrrrfect...

 

[WDB748372]

I'm really liking the Midnight Blue. I see there are a total of 69 of these E36 coupes (957 124.052). 43 LHD and 26 RHD. 2 in Midnight Blue, one for each side of the road.

 

[gsxr]

Someone posted a comment asking why the oil pressure went to 2 bar with the key on and engine off, and the comment was censored / moderated / whatever...

Probably just needs a new pressure sensor, guess we'll see if anyone else notices.

And, no comment from the seller about this car coming from Japan. Why the lack of transparency?

 

[TerryA]

I had a notification from BaT yesterday that the E36 AMG was WITHDRAWN.

 

[gsxr]

I had a notification from BaT yesterday that the E36 AMG was WITHDRAWN.

Terry, the auction is still live... someone fat-fingered a bid, and that bid was withdrawn / cancelled:

 

[TerryA]

@gsxr,
Great! I read 500Eboard each day before the BaT Auctions. All I saw was the withdrawal late last night.

 

[Stevester 500E]

Great looking coupe. One of my favorite MB body styles. My rankings "today", no.1 is 190e, no. 2 is the W124 Coupe, no. 3 is the W124 .036, no. 4 is the W126 coupe.

 

[Goran124]

It looks like it was repainted, that will hurt the value…im bidding on that car. I hate when i cant make my own inspection of a car

 

[gsxr]

@Goran124 - I assume you also saw the oil pressure gauge not working properly. Pretty likely to be a simple fix, either the wiring harness or the sending unit, but it's a shame the owner has had the car 4 years and never fixed this. Makes you wonder what else wasn't taken care of.

 

[Goran124]

@Goran124 - I assume you also saw the oil pressure gauge not working properly. Pretty likely to be a simple fix, either the wiring harness or the sending unit, but it's a shame the owner has had the car 4 years and never fixed this. Makes you wonder what else wasn't taken care of.

The biggest problem there is no history and it is repainted! It looks good but live viewing is best inspection. I have two w124 E36 AMG coupe, one is RHD, and both are repainted…still searching for one with original colour

 

[puchak]

Instantly reminded me of that blue over blue 6.0 widebody C124.

Here is my take on the interior:
- Rear seats have lots of marks
- Sun visors sagging
- Gearshift wood panel is cracking
- Cluster is riddled with dots
- Driver seat left bolster wear

I couldn't find much else. I didn't love the undercarriage but overall the car presents well and if acquired by the right hands, it can be easily perfected.

 

[inboundmotorsports]

Goran i'm surprised you're still bidding given all of the issues you have with it, or is that a tactic to keep the price affordable

It looks like a lovely car. Little bit of cleanup and she should be good to go. The infamous 500eboard punchlist is not as robust as I usually see with some other cars.

 

[Goran124]

I have my limit for that car, we will se how it goes…
Anybody know how much is the cost of transporting the car to Europe from US?

 

[inboundmotorsports]

I would budget 2500-5000 depending on how you prefer to ship the car (container/Roro) to Europe. What happens beyond that is dependent on the country it's going to and the taxes involved

 

[Eagle01]

I have my limit for that car, we will se how it goes…
Anybody know how much is the cost of transporting the car to Europe from US?

$2k-$3k.

 

[Bogeyman]

Sold for $70K + $3.5K commission.

 

[gsxr]

Interesting bidding here. #1 and #2 were going at it pretty good from mid-40's to mid-50's, until HQ509 did a mice-drop (sic) $70k bid.

Bidders 3-5 were all in the high 30k to mid 40k range which might be a better estimate of market value. For the same money I'd rather have an 036, but collectors gonna collect, I guess.

$70,000 bid placed by HQ509 - Winner
$56,000 bid placed by bt87cab
$46,500 bid placed by pmobley
$41,250 bid placed by merclover
$37,360 bid placed by SIMPN2
$36,363 bid placed by ReimelMC

 

[puchak]

That went for a lot more than I thought it would but I'll never understand bidding way over the latest bid. Always seems fishy or outright stupid to me.

 

[Goran124]

I bet that last bet was some profile owned by the site or their bot!

BaT is rigged 100%!
You have to be carefull that you don't accidentally dare to post a bad comment about a car, because then the admins will spit on you in the comments and delete your completely normal comments! I guess it's normal that everyone can comment and point out the defects they see on the car without the comments being deleted!

they deleted more than half the comments I wanted to post!

 

[Goran124]

@gsxr if car had original paint my max bit would 60.000…

 

[gsxr]

You have to be carefull that you don't accidentally dare to post a bad comment about a car, because then the admins will spit on you in the comments and delete your completely normal comments! I guess it's normal that everyone can comment and point out the defects they see on the car without the comments being deleted!

they deleted more than half the comments I wanted to post!

Yep, and that is why GSXR stopped commenting on BaHaT auctions. Too much moderation / flagging / deleting of comments.

GSXR also stopped commenting on Cars & Bids for the same reason.

Censorship has gone insane on both of those platforms.

 

[gerryvz]

Censorship has gone insane on both of those platforms.

As it has and does on many other platforms ... Banzworld, FruitBird, etc.....

We've been able to generally hold the line here, at least for the past 16 years.

 

[puchak]

I bet that last bet was some profile owned by the site or their bot!

BaT is rigged 100%!

47k-Kilometer 1990 Mercedes-Benz 300E 3.2 AMG

Bid for the chance to own a 47k-Kilometer 1990 Mercedes-Benz 300E 3.2 AMG at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #93,449.

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Reminds me of this auction. Go to the comments and look at SeanySean's bids. The guy raises the auction ~$20k then loses to a small raise and disappears without even a comment.

 

[duuder]

SeanySean did win a set of wheels but yea, very suspect! the shill bidding and disappearing act makes a lot of sense that its an admin pushing above a reserve...

i had similar issue w/ tinashaf964 on this:

No Reserve: Twin-Plug 3.8L-Powered 1990 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe 5-Speed

Bid for the chance to own a No Reserve: Twin-Plug 3.8L-Powered 1990 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe 5-Speed at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #170,587.

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[puchak]

He did win the wheels, but maybe he is a friend of a friend who also likes Mercedes...

Regarding the Porsche -- Losing over $2k? Why raise to your ceiling then give up? Stupid as hell.

I don't think it is an admin, rather a friend who can easily transfer the car back to the owner if it doesn't sell to their expectations. I think that is why you sometimes see won auction cars on random marketplaces, but not back on the auction website where they sold so well.

Hey, call me a conspiracist, I don't mind.

 

[Goran124]

My opinion is that the “reserved” price for this blue E36 coupe was 70,000 and that's why it went like that in the end.
So, in the end, bt87cab and hq509 were raising the price by $300 each and reached $56,000 and then suddenly hq509 dropped $70,000 bid
And if you're blind, you'll see that it doesn't make sense because bt87cab would give up at any moment...
In my opinion, it's a complete set-up!

I wouldnt be surprised that in few months that car goes on auction agan with explanation that winner didnt pay for the car in time!

 

[BT87Cab]

Alright, I’ve finally been drawn in to sign up…

I am, as my username states, BT87Cab. Same one on BAT, same Pelican Forums. I’m real, not a shill bidder. I believe HQ is as well.

I think one thing people forget, market values are one thing, but there’s also a personal or individual value too. What it’s worth to one person isn’t the same to all. We only get to go around the sun so many times. If you really want something or some experience, well, you pay up for it.

 

[Goran124]

Welcome bt87cab….what do you think about that “tactic”
That last bid

 

[BT87Cab]

Well, I’ve seen my father use it over the years. I think it’s a waste of money myself. But it’s all relative to how much you have to spend. What’s big $ to some is pocket change to others.

Personally - and I know you don’t agree, but I respect your opinion - I thought it was a 70-100k car. My budget was 55-60 before fees, etc.

1) As was expressed, an E36 was not available here like in Europe. There was value in the car already being brought to the states. I wouldn’t have to deal with the time, expense, etc. Plus, if the car wasn’t “right” per the auction, more/easier legal recourse availability.

2) 70k… 1/10 the price of the CE 6.0 Hammer on MB Market not too long ago. Pretty good value

I think these will only go up (yea, I know, so does everyone) and I’ll likely never own one. I wanted to give it a shot. Same thing happened to me about 10-12 years ago. Missed out barely on a W09 VIN RUF Carrera 3.4. Price was down to 50k. Bought a… yep, 87 911 Cab for early half that. Sigh…. RM Sotheby’s Dubai just sold a near twin for 300k.

Oh well. Glad to join the 500E Board! And yea, a 500E is in my crosshairs as well being a lifelong PCar guy.

 

[duuder]

He did win the wheels, but maybe he is a friend of a friend who also likes Mercedes...

Regarding the Porsche -- Losing over $2k? Why raise to your ceiling then give up? Stupid as hell.

I don't think it is an admin, rather a friend who can easily transfer the car back to the owner if it doesn't sell to their expectations. I think that is why you sometimes see won auction cars on random marketplaces, but not back on the auction website where they sold so well.

Hey, call me a conspiracist, I don't mind.

Its really weird! I wouldn't of notice if someone didn't mention it and when I dug in, none of it made sense

HQ actively bids, has won, and comments - he's real!

 

[The Emperor]

Glad to join the 500E Board!

Welcome, new apprentice.

 

[duuder]

Oh hey look, I got a response

 

[tanger]

Congrats on the win BT87! Beautiful car. Loved the “mic drop” winning bid…

 

[gsxr]

Congrats on the win BT87! Beautiful car. Loved the “mic drop” winning bid…

BT87 didn't win... HQ509's mice-drop bid won.

Although given the odd bidding, BT87 might have dodged a bullet here.

$70,000 bid placed by HQ509 <-- Winner
$56,000 bid placed by bt87cab <-- Runner-up
$46,500 bid placed by pmobley <--Semi-finalist

 

[gsxr]

Oh hey look, I got a response

Well of course there won't be 2 accounts with the same names, addresses, and billing info! Shillers generally aren't THAT stupid. They have a friend do the shilling.

In this case though, HQ509 won the auction... so it probably wasn't shilling. It could have been either "I hate money and want this car", or someone who thought it was proxy bidding like eBay. Real shillers typically won't go above reserve.

 

[tanger]

BT87 didn't win... HQ509's mice-drop bid won.

Although given the odd bidding, BT87 might have dodged a bullet here.

$70,000 bid placed by HQ509 <-- Winner
$56,000 bid placed by bt87cab <-- Runner-up
$46,500 bid placed by pmobley <--Semi-finalist

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doh! thanks for clarifying...