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Do a search for ”silver arrow” that would be considered the best upgrade by most. I’ve done it on my previous E420, bought a perfect set from @gsxr here.
Depends on your definition of "best", and the intended use.
The best bang for the buck is the "Silver Arrow" setup as @doolar mentioned above, which requires 17" wheels, and if your '93 500E came with the smaller 300mm front brakes, some additional mods are required. Very good performance, reasonable cost, proven effective by literally dozens of forum members on their 500E's over the past 15+ years.
Anything larger generally comes with disproportionally high costs and questionable benefits at USA-legal (or even USA-likely) speeds. Most other setups would be a gamble on both pedal feel and braking power, unless someone else had installed a particular combination on their 500E and reported the results. Also read this recent post from a forum member who invested $6500 (!) into Porsche brakes and reported that he didn't think it was worth it.
There are some brake upgrade options from AMG models in the mid-aughts, which a few people have done. However, these are double or triple the cost of the "Silver Arrow" setup, and the primary benefits are stopping from speeds well above 100mph. And they require 18" wheels.
If you want to stick with 16” wheels the 94 320mm brakes for the front and 300mm for the rear are a worthwhile upgrade. I found them a significant improvement over the 300mm from higher speeds
If you want to stick with 16” wheels the 94 320mm brakes for the front and 300mm for the rear are a worthwhile upgrade. I found them a significant improvement over the 300mm from higher speeds
Sounds like the Silver arrow does fit the bill. No reason to get too far off base. So sorry to hear about the Porsche situation.
Have 18” monoblocks on it now. What would yall suggest? I’ll not be doing 100 mph or track days but will accelerate and decelerate to feel the motor work.
If you're not going to be using them aggressively per your description above I'd consider upgrading your pads, some braided brake hoses and run MOTUL 660 or Castol SRF and you'll have more head room then you'll need.
IF you should manage to warp/burn that setup get a set of rotors cryo'd, but I doubt that will be necessary.
I suspect just a nice ceramic pad, A-la Akebono or EBC Red would fit the bill just fine.
I Prefer bigger is better.The original set up for driving int the landscape with your wife and childs ok.But into the Night is this bad realy.Maybe here in Germany . i like the fellings when your drive and brake this car and you sense the cars is under brakeing strong and you feel the rubber in the rods are on the block and so on and on.And you fell on the Brake the Pavment and rills .Ilike this skills i like.and the push to flat out and after 3500u/min came live into this Taxi. Yeah thats great.
ok was my thoughts too the End of Summer and Autumm.
Take care and doo this what you want.on 16 zoll Enjoy your car in your.
Upgrade the front and rear brakes, to keep the balance between the two. As mentioned earlier; better brake pads, braided brake hoses and better brake fluid will be the icing on the cake. And the silver arrow brakes upgrade is your best and easiest choice for an 036. But, if doing the rear upgrade with silver arrow brakes, a few things need to be done. 1. The rear calipers will require longer bolts. 2. Rear dust shields will need trimming.
Having the silver arrow kit for many moons now, I can attest to how well it works at all speeds and I have had the opportunity to test the kit at higher speeds on the track.
The other component, is doing a proper brake fluid change using the blast method. Also, during the pressure bleed, you want to shoot for a higher PSI. As an example, when I upgraded to the silver arrow brakes, the pressure PSI was at 29 and the pedal response was firm with a lots of pedal travel left.
Sounds like the Silver arrow does fit the bill. No reason to get too far off base. So sorry to hear about the Porsche situation.
Have 18” monoblocks on it now. What would yall suggest? I’ll not be doing 100 mph or track days but will accelerate and decelerate to feel the motor work.
Just curious... what brakes are on there now? Early 1993 had smaller front brakes, late 1993 had larger. A photo of the calipers will identify them, if you have a picture.
The break point (not brake point, lol) was Feb/March 1993 production. Pretty good chance your car has the 320mm front brakes, which are much better than the early 300mm. If you do have 320's up front, the "Silver Arrow" setup is 100% bolt-on with zero modifications needed.
Do you know what brand pads are on the car now, btw?
Don’t know but car at shop for throttle body rebuild from the NC place and injection wires etc to get it to 100% from about 90% now. Many thanks again for the EZL. Will ask the question tomorrow. Staying with OEM as much as possible across the board.
Hi Guys . I don't see this mentioned much but I think worth mentioning . the silver arrow were a special edition option on the late sl's what make them special is just the silver color and drilled rotors . all late SL's r129 had the same brake calibers but in black and regular rotors <non drilled > the black ones are much cheaper .true?
Hi Guys . I don't see this mentioned much but I think worth mentioning . the silver arrow were a special edition option on the late sl's what make them special is just the silver color and drilled rotors . all late SL's r129 had the same brake calibers but in black and regular rotors <non drilled > the black ones are much cheaper .true?
Yup! That is correct. Except the part about the Black ones being less expensive. The Silver calipers are just harder to find. All are NLA new.
Be careful buying used calipers, some sellers do not include the pins & springs, and those items are surprisingly expensive to replace. Most sellers toss both calipers into the same box with some wadded paper, without draining the calipers, so expect a pair of damaged calipers to arrive covered in brake fluid. Back when W124performance sold these kits, calipers were always shipped "dry" and individually boxed.
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