Calling the JLAA !!

[gerryvz]

It appears that some schooling of ChatGPT is in order.

BenzWorld inaccuracy has long legs.

@Jlaa can you re-school ChatGPT to make it more accurate about our cars?

 

[gsxr]

wow, that's a whole bowl of wrong, to borrow a quote from the Jlaa.

 

[Eno]

No way

 

[gerryvz]

Here's the version from OpenAI:


what is the difference between the Mercedes-Benz 500E and E500?

The Mercedes-Benz 500E and E500 are both high-performance sports sedans produced by Mercedes-Benz, but they are from different generations and have some differences in terms of specifications and naming conventions. Here's a breakdown of the key differences between the two:

1. Generation:
   • Mercedes-Benz 500E: The 500E was produced from 1990 to 1994. It was based on the W124 E-Class platform, specifically modified and built in collaboration with Porsche. It was also known as the "E 500" in some markets.
   • Mercedes-Benz E500: The E500 is a later model that came into production in the late 1990s. It belongs to the W210 E-Class generation and was produced from 1994 to 1995 (the first generation) and then from 2002 to 2006 (the second generation).
2. Engine:
   • Mercedes-Benz 500E: The 500E was powered by a 5.0-liter V8 engine that produced around 322 horsepower.
   • Mercedes-Benz E500: The first-generation E500 also featured a 5.0-liter V8 engine, but it had some improvements in terms of power and technology. The second-generation E500 featured a 5.5-liter V8 engine with even more power.
3. Performance:
   • Mercedes-Benz 500E: The 500E was considered a high-performance sedan of its time, with excellent handling and acceleration capabilities.
   • Mercedes-Benz E500: The E500, especially in its second generation, offered improved performance compared to the 500E, thanks to more advanced engine technology and other enhancements.
4. Features and Technology:
   • As technology advanced over the years, the E500 models, especially the second generation, came with more advanced features, safety systems, and creature comforts compared to the 500E.
5. Naming Conventions:
   • The naming convention evolved over time, with Mercedes-Benz transitioning from the "500E" to "E500" as they updated their model designations.

In summary, the Mercedes-Benz 500E and E500 are related in that they are both high-performance versions of the E-Class sedan, but they belong to different generations, have different engines, and come with various improvements and technological advancements as Mercedes-Benz updated their models over the years.

 

[Alphasud40]

You go chat GPT! Nice to see GIGO still applies to the most intelligent thing on earth just wait when GPT starts making medical diagnosis for patients. Can’t sue Chat GPT for malpractice.

 

[LWB250]

Reading that made my brain hurt!


Dan

 

[sheward]

That's a good insight into the AI research process for someone like me living on the very edge of the techno-world. Even more lame than I imagined. It asks the question "Who is going to correct its' misinformation"? The same politicians and know-it-alls that want to criminalize challenging the experts?

Whew! It makes me lightheaded to think about it.

 

[gsxr]

Pretty much the only thing accurate is "The Mercedes-Benz 500E and E500 are both produced by Mercedes-Benz". Even then, more accurately "were produced by". The rest makes BanzWhirled look downright erudite.

Anxiously awaiting @Jlaa's $0.02 on this one.

 

[Jlaa]

Generative AI is good for, like, poetry, and otherwise asking it to do some research and give you facts is often hilariously wrong.
See Below --- Google Bard is terrible. MANY MANY BOWLS OF WRONG.



Now let's look at Microsoft ... is Microsoft's AI much better? Well, not really that much better..... it still got the transmission / gearing all wrong and "waved leather on the E500?!?!? And OBD compliance issues? And headlight wipers only on the E500? And chrome trim? They all are terrible!

 

[Jlaa]

I think it is being overly defensive. What do you think?

 

[gsxr]

Chat-MS-AI-GPT needs a direct link to the 500Eboard, yo.

 

[gsxr]

I'm sure Tax-GPT will be much, much more accurate.

 

[2phast]

The problem lies with the fact that there is a W124 E500 and a W210 E500. The AI is not smart enough to fire back and ask if your referring to the W124 or W210, then tailor its answer based on that criteria.

 

[TerryA]

It appears that some schooling of ChatGPT is in order.

BenzWorld inaccuracy has long legs.

@Jlaa can you re-school ChatGPT to make it more accurate about our cars?


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IMOP, AI or ChatGPT has confused the 124.036-M119-E500E of 1991 thru 1995 with the later model W211-E500 w/ the M113 engine which was rated at 302HP/339TQ in the beginning and later on went to the E550 model w/ 382HP/?TQ.

It’s true that the 91-500E had more HP/TQ @ 322/354 than the 93 500E or the 94 & 95 E500 @ 315/347 but they were all 124.036 models. The 124.036-E500 had minor differences with the lowered hood, grill & headlights and the lower HP/TQ 315/347 engine and then the limited edition came out w/ the funky interior upholstery w/ the colored zig/zag patterns.

There are probably a few more differences but for now I will leave leave it there.

The later E500 & E550 is a completely different car.

Enough Said

lol

Edit: @gsxr, W211-E500 ilo W210-E500

 

[gsxr]

AFAIK there was never a W210 E500, or any W210 with 5.0L engine besides the E50 AMG. There was the E420/E430, then the E55 AMG, but nothing in between. (The unicorn W210 E60 doesn't count here.)

The E500 badge was resurrected with the W211 E500, and the W211 never had the small V8... there was no 4.3L M113 offered in the W211 chassis. Base was 6-cyl, midrange 500/550 depending on the year, and top of the line was the AMG version (E55/E63).

ChattyG needs to go back to school.

 

[gerryvz]

It is going to be still, quite some time, before stuff generated by large language models (LLMs, the category of AI under which ChatGPT and similar technologies is under) is able to truly replace any sort of knowledgeable human. I would say this is still decades into the future, and even then, human experts will never be able to be replaced.

Many are also touting LLMs / Generative AI as one of the biggest innovations of our lifetime, akin to the advent of the Internet, the browser, and the "app screen" on the smartphone. I do not believe this is on the same plane, though it is probably the biggest innovation we've had for the past 15 years.

There is, bottom line, MUCH work to do to make Generative AI / LLMs truly useful and productive, though we have seen the beginnings of it happen.

This is an insightful blog post, if you are interested in more about the topic and its significance.

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