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Grand 600 Pullman... AMG?

I saw the real thing this summer in Belgrade. Itt was president Tito's parade car.This one, for being a "#60 of only 59" looks very decent, but there are a few kichy details on it that don't belong on the car like this.
 
I have a huge affinity for these cars.

They're quite a car. I came VERY close to buying quite a nice one in 2000, from a collector in Spokane, WA (I was majorly buzzed & flush on Intel stock options at the time, but decided to buy a historic house instead -- better investment, as I more than doubled my money on the house in less than 8 years). There were 2,677 Grand 600s made from 1963-1981, although they were not imported into the US after the 1972 model year because of tightened emissions and safety laws.

AMG massaged a few of them for rich clients back in the day (remember that AMG's first race car for the 1967-1968 time frame was the 300SEL 6.8, which used an M100 motor from the 6.3/600 that was bored out to 6.8L). Surprisingly, quite a number of Grand 600s actually still do survive -- I'd say probably 1,500 of them. I've personally seen probably 100 of them in person, and had the opportunity to drive one around the track at Portland International Raceway back in 2001, when I hosted the M-100 Club's 3-day annual gathering in Portland (for 6.3, 6.9 and Grand 600 owners).

There are several books out about the 600, two of the best books are by a German author named Michael Wiedmaier. Both 600 books he has done are only printed in limited editions of 2,677 copies, each individually numbered to correspond with a car. The first 600 book was published around 2000, and the second one (considerably more in-depth) was published about 2007. The first book costs around $200 (if you can still find it) and the newer one was well over $300 -- I picked up a copy at the MB Classic Center in Fellbach, Germany on my trip there last summer. These books are extremely difficult to find but document most all of the cars, particularly those owned by famous owners.

Hugh Hefner owned two of them. I sat in one back in about 2001 when I was visiting LA (the car had just been sold and the new owner wanted to show it off to me) and it had custom pink carpeting with a very long pile, and the inside of the glovebox also had this pink carpet in it. It was ... well ... interesting.

When I was at the Fellbach Classic Center in June there was a perfect 600 SWB parked outside, that I parked next to. I took some photos of it (I think I posted them in another post but they are also below). I think it was company-owned, given the license plate.

Attached are a few photos of the two Wiedmaier 600 books. They are very comprehensive and detail all aspects of the cars, including all options and variations, colors, etc.

The US authority on the Grand 600 is Karl Middelhauve of Wasau, WI (formerly of Woxall, PA). He and his wife Ruth are two of the kindest and most hospitable people you'll ever meet. Karl's amazing web site is at http://www.mbgrand600.com He's done some amazing performance projects to 6.3s and 600s (which share an engine). Karl usually has about 8 or 10 of them for sale that he has personally restored. Here's a story where Karl talks about driving to the M-100 Meet I hosted in Portland (he mentions me briefly): http://www.mbgrand600.com/Page500.html

Cheers,
Gerry
 

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Time to drag out the sad pics some of you may have seen these images before ,I photographed this car in 2006 in a Dubai industrial area - no happy ending either as I recently saw the same car sitting at the back of a dealers lot in one of the free zones, rotting into the ground. Lovely looking thing they are...


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Fudge, that's a later one (post-1967), you can tell by the lack of wood on the instrument binnacle and the larger hubcaps. So sad to see it rotting. Ugh.

The biggest problem with those bad-boys is that when they get dilapidated like that, they are truly among the most expensive cars ever to restore properly. The hydraulic system (which controls the sunroof, windows, fresh air vent flap, trunk (opens and closes the trunk by iteslf), compartment divider (for those cars so optioned), and on the early cars the automatic door closing mechanism, is PROHIBITIVELY expensive and time consuming to diagnose and fix. Each component has a hydraulic valve, and these tend to leak and have to be painstakingly repaired. Parts are often not available so they have to be remanufactured and rebuilt. So it requires an expert to do this. The hydraulic system is under HUGE pressure, so one has to be super careful working on it, too.

Grand 600s also have the MB air suspension (also found on 300SEL W109 models, and W112 300SE/SEL Fintails) and thus these systems have to be diagnosed as well -- airbags at all four corners, front and rear axle air ride valves, and the main control pressure valve, not to mention the underhood air compressor and air tank in the driver's side front fender. BUT, a Grand 600 in fine trim is a wonderful car.

A friend of mine who lives in northern Italy, Giovanni Verzoletto, owns 3-4 Grand 600s. When I visited him one time a few years ago, he drove me early on a Sunday morning from his village (Quaregna, in the province of Biella, Italy) about 30 km into Milan, where we went to an Italian Mercedes enthusiasts' meeting and then out with the group for Italian pizza. Giovanni was driving me through all these small Italian villages along the way (we took the back roads) and I felt like a bloody Mafia Don sitting in the back of that 600 as we drove through these small villages. The people were sitting outside along the road watching the cars go by, or standing out in their yards talking with the neighbors, sitting outside at cafes, etc. I'm sure they were wondering who the VIP in the fancy Mercedes limo was. I really felt like a King that day :)

Cheers,
Gerry
 
Time to drag out the sad pics some of you may have seen these images before ,I photographed this car in 2006 in a Dubai industrial area - no happy ending either as I recently saw the same car sitting at the back of a dealers lot in one of the free zones, rotting into the ground. Lovely looking thing they are...


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poor beast, what a waste! note it's right hand drive too!
 
Its not a local Gulf registration, especially that its RHD.

It resembles old UK reg... maybe India,hong kong? or an African dictator who got overthrown in a blood bath, and his foreign "Advisor" nicked it!

Note the rust free panels.
 
Great thread. Thanks for the great pictures and history/information. These are incredible automobiles. Hard to fathom one going to waste like this. The RHD seems to add to the charisma.

drew
 
Its not a local Gulf registration, especially that its RHD.

It resembles old UK reg... maybe India,hong kong? or an African dictator who got overthrown in a blood bath, and his foreign "Advisor" nicked it!

Note the rust free panels.

It had been previously suggested that they are Singapore plates? This is the same car 3 years later, in what appears to be a dealers grave yard, September 2009 looking very neglected. It was still sitting there as of 2 weeks ago.


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One would be looking at a minimum of $90-100K to get that car back into respectable running order and good cosmetic condition. A lot of people buy 600s thinking they'll get them restored for cheap. Heh. It's much better just to buy a well maintained one for $50 or $60K and be done with it. There are also a lot of quacks out there who start resto jobs (even MB indy shops) who end up bungling the job, contributing to the demise of the cars. It's unfortunate. Work on these cars MUST be done by someone with Grand 600 experience. And folks with that experience are dwindling fast, sadly.

Cheers,
Gerry
 
One would be looking at a minimum of $90-100K to get that car back into respectable running order and good cosmetic condition. A lot of people buy 600s thinking they'll get them restored for cheap. Heh. It's much better just to buy a well maintained one for $50 or $60K and be done with it. There are also a lot of quacks out there who start resto jobs (even MB indy shops) who end up bungling the job, contributing to the demise of the cars. It's unfortunate. Work on these cars MUST be done by someone with Grand 600 experience. And folks with that experience are dwindling fast, sadly.

Cheers,
Gerry

+1

As With all MB, to restore a junker to its rightful condition and to a high standard will cost much more than buying a proper model.
The car in question probably has legal issues, but in all cases its a parts car now.
 
The car shown actually looks very complete. 600s are rare enough, and owners quite often have deep enough pockets that even a seeming parts car can and will be resurrected and restored properly. I've seen it quite a lot. Only a small subset of these cars were RHD -- I'll have to get the exact number -- but just that fact alone makes this car quite rare and worth restoring. This car is too complete NOT to restore. I"ve seen 600s that are so far gone they are not restorable, but this one is a major gem compared to the worst ones out there.

Cheers,
Gerry
 
It's in fact one roadgoing here in Kongsberg, Norway! Owned by a quit young collector. I was close to it once before the restoration, didn't look that bad. We seldom see it on the road, but last time it was in a TV program. Really an amazing car! :-)

Cheers
-arnt-
 
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In about 2005 Gerry gave me his friend Giovanni's contact info and my wife, my twins , about 21 at the time, and myself got to see his MB collection and got a ride in a 600 limo to a mountain top monestary. I asked about the history of the car and Giovanni told me to look in the glove box. The original papers were there and the original owner was M V Augusta, makers of fine motorcycles and helicopters , near Milan.

What a great way to spend mothers day 2005. I know I won't forget it.
 
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