FOR SALE M119.97x AMG 6.0L engine for 500E, $11k (Houston, TX)

[browniesbenz]

ADMIN EDIT: Engine has been converted from .980 (coil packs) to .97x (distributors) and will work in any E500E or 400E420. Re-listed April 2019, includes LH module. See post #26 and #36 for details.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/252595860014

"Mercedes Benz m119 engine AMG 6.0. Original car was 1997 w140. Comes with AMG gearbox and rear axel. I reserve the right to stop the auction any moment. "

 

[Ntrepid]

Re: 6.0 AMG M119 for sale on eBay

This is in Honch and nocfn territory!

 

[500AMM]

Re: 6.0 AMG M119 for sale on eBay

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"Mercedes Benz m119 engine AMG 6.0. Original car was 1997 w140. Comes with AMG gearbox and rear axel. I reserve the right to stop the auction any moment. "

No affiliation
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I activated the link in your post.

 

[gerryvz]

Re: 6.0 AMG M119 for sale on eBay

Unfortunately, it's not a direct bolt-in for our E500E models, as it's an M119.98X model rather than the .97X that would be LH-injection driven.

 

[J-Sauce]

Re: 6.0 AMG M119 for sale on eBay

Before bidding, please notice that this is a later m119 with coil on plug and different fuel management. It will take a lot of work to retrofit this into a w124. Cams, valve covers, all injection and ignition systems, a couple of the ancillaries. Even if the seller included the computer, it would not work with LH cars.

That being said, this could still be a great deal for anyone willing to put in a bit of work!

 

[Ntrepid]

Re: 6.0 AMG M119 for sale on eBay

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[JC220]

Re: 6.0 AMG M119 for sale on eBay

Holy smokes Batman- relisted with a starting bid of $11.000USD!!

I was trying to figure out shipping to here from TX but screw that.

 

[nocfn]

6.0 AMG M119 for sale on eBay

I saw this at 1k but knew it was too good to be true. Glad it doesn't fit cuz I was going to grab the whole thing today.

 

[gerryvz]

Re: 6.0 AMG M119 for sale on eBay

Relisted at $11,000?

Idiot.

 

[gsxr]

UPDATE: This engine has been converted from ME injection to LH injection. It is now plug+play into any E500E, for sale again April-2019. Read the read of the thread for details.

It is extremely difficult - to put it mildly - to obtain the correct ECU needed to make this engine work in a 1996-1999 W140, R129, or W210 with ME injection. The later modules are locked to the specific chassis DAS/IRCL module so you can't just buy a 6.0 module from Europe and plop it in the car. I also do not believe that most US-based reprogrammers would be able to take the car's original ME 1.0 module and reflash it with 6.0 code. When RENNtech built their W210 6.0 cars, Hartmut had to buy the ECU's from AMG Germany!

Soooo.... yes, you could convert this to work in an E500E but a BUNCH of parts need to be swapped. Roger (?) did this in Europe with a W210 E50 engine, proving it can be done. At a minimum the valve covers, front head covers, distributors, all four cam sprockets, exhaust manifold, oil pan, and oil pump need to be swapped from a M119.97x (and, the manifolds & oil pan MUST come from either a 124 or 129 chassis, to work in a 124). The intake manifold would either need to be machined for temp sensors and EGR, or replaced as well. On the bright side, a 6.0L ECU is much easier to obtain for LH injection... I have one available for sale if anyone decide to take the plunge. On the brighter side, there's no way you could duplicate this motor for $11k.

Wonder how many miles / kms are on the engine, and what it looks like under the valve covers?

 

[gerryvz]

Wonder how many miles / kms are on the engine, and what it looks like under the valve covers?

I think he said 33K miles in the original eBay ad?

 

[W124armo]

It is extremely difficult - to put it mildly - to obtain the correct ECU needed to make this engine work in a 1996-1999 W140, R129, or W210 with ME injection. The later modules are locked to the specific chassis DAS/IRCL module so you can't just buy a 6.0 module from Europe and plop it in the car. I also do not believe that most US-based reprogrammers would be able to take the car's original ME 1.0 module and reflash it with 6.0 code. When RENNtech built their W210 6.0 cars, Hartmut had to buy the ECU's from AMG Germany!

Soooo.... yes, you could convert this to work in an E500E but a BUNCH of parts need to be swapped. Roger (?) did this in Europe with a W210 E50 engine, proving it can be done. At a minimum the valve covers, front head covers, distributors, all four cam sprockets, exhaust manifold, oil pan, and oil pump need to be swapped from a M119.97x (and, the manifolds & oil pan MUST come from either a 124 or 129 chassis, to work in a 124). The intake manifold would either need to be machined for temp sensors and EGR, or replaced as well. On the bright side, a 6.0L ECU is much easier to obtain for LH injection... I have one available for sale if anyone decide to take the plunge. On the brighter side, there's no way you could duplicate this motor for $11k.

Wonder how many miles / kms are on the engine, and what it looks like under the valve covers?

gsxr,
Do you still have the 6.0 ECU ?
Thanks

 

[gsxr]

gsxr,
Do you still have the 6.0 ECU ?
Thanks

ECU for LH injection (W124 / E500E 6.0L)... yes.

ECU for ME injection (W210 / 6.0L)... no.

Shoot me an email if you want more info.

 

[W124armo]

ECU for LH injection (W124 / E500E 6.0L)... yes.

ECU for ME injection (W210 / 6.0L)... no.

Shoot me an email if you want more info.

I did Email earlier and I do want more info, please me know if you did not get my email

 

[gsxr]

I did Email earlier and I do want more info, please me know if you did not get my email

I never received the email! I sent you a PM... and I'll also check if the forum email function is working...

 

[gerryvz]

and I'll also check if the forum email function is working...

It's working

 

[gsxr]

It's working

Well, sort of. Email to Honcho worked. But I tried sending something to myself and it never arrived. I'll run a couple more tests for grins.

UPDATE: My spam filter was eating the messages from 500Eboard. Stupid Gmail! I didn't realize this at first as I have multiple addys and it was getting stuck in the spam folder of the account I don't normally access.

 

[salvine]

Who's bidding on this auction?

https://www.ebay.com/itm//253671185403 <-- Reserve auction ends June 15, 2018.

AMG M119 6.0 W124 W210 Brabus Mercedes 500e E500 E60

Mercedes benz AMG m119 6.0 engine. In good condition.​

Seller: gcmotor
https://www.ebay.com/usr/gcmotor

 

[TerryA]

Re: Who's bidding on this auction?

NICE!!

It looks like the engine is out of a 210. To put in a 124036 is a lot of work. For sure you have to change to the distributor system plus a bunch of other stuff. Or change to the 210 computers and other compatible systems.

Others here are more into the tech stuff. (Jono, gsxr or Klink or somebody else) I’m sure they will chime in soon.

Six days to go on the bid. Reserve is NOT MET and is probably in the $8K to $10K range.

The POWER would sure great to have in my 500E but to costly for me.

Somebody will take it home. Go for it!!

 

[600Eric]

 

[Maui]

Local pick up only. Logistics to have it picked up, palleted and shipped would be a PITA.

 

[600Eric]

Local pick up only. Logistics to have it picked up, palleted and shipped would be a PITA.

Do i sense a competing bidder attempting to use the Jedi mind trick on me here Ken. [emoji16]

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[W124armo]

Re: Who's bidding on this auction?

NICE!!

It looks like the engine is out of a 210. To put in a 124036 is a lot of work. For sure you have to change to the distributor system plus a bunch of other stuff. Or change to the 210 computers and other compatible systems.

Others here are more into the tech stuff. (Jono, gsxr or Klink or somebody else) I’m sure they will chime in soon.

Six days to go on the bid. Reserve is NOT MET and is probably in the $8K to $10K range.

The POWER would sure great to have in my 500E but to costly for me.

Somebody will take it home. Go for it!!

It is ready for w124

 

[W124armo]

Local pick up only. Logistics to have it picked up, palleted and shipped would be a PITA.

Shipping is no problem. Also I have a wooden box for it

 

[gerryvz]

It is ready for w124

Look Pal, this is NOT an appropriate engine for a W124 chassis, unless someone wanted to do an EXTREME amount of work to install it. And for literally no benefit. It’s far easier to just bore out an existing/appropriate LH injected variant.

This engine is NOT “ready for w124” as you say. It’s an ME-injected engine, and was NEVER installed in the W124. Only the LH-injected 119.97x variants were installed in the 400E/E420 and 500E/E500 models.

Don’t spout crap — people here are pretty smart and know better. Go somewhere else and spread your falsehoods.

 

[gsxr]

The engine has been converted since it was originally for sale nearly 2 years ago.

It now has the LH / distributor setup, and per the one photo shown, it SHOULD be ready to drop into a 124 chassis (still needs 6L LH module though, as mentioned back in post #10).

 

[W124armo]

Look Pal, this is NOT an appropriate engine for a W124 chassis, unless someone wanted to do an EXTREME amount of work to install it. And for literally no benefit. It’s far easier to just bore out an existing/appropriate LH injected variant.

This engine is NOT “ready for w124” as you say. It’s an ME-injected engine, and was NEVER installed in the W124. Only the LH-injected 119.97x variants were installed in the 400E/E420 and 500E/E500 models.

Don’t spout crap — people here are pretty smart and know better. Go somewhere else and spread your falsehoods.

The engine is acctualy is installed in my 500e. You can come and check it out. Sorry

 

[W124armo]

WTF is this forum ? What is it North Korea? Cant say anything against your opinion. You can call ppl idiots and block them? I didn’t say bad about anyone.

 

[W124armo]

Look Pal, this is NOT an appropriate engine for a W124 chassis, unless someone wanted to do an EXTREME amount of work to install it. And for literally no benefit. It’s far easier to just bore out an existing/appropriate LH injected variant.

This engine is NOT “ready for w124” as you say. It’s an ME-injected engine, and was NEVER installed in the W124. Only the LH-injected 119.97x variants were installed in the 400E/E420 and 500E/E500 models.

Don’t spout crap — people here are pretty smart and know better. Go somewhere else and spread your falsehoods.

If I say you are completely wrong you just gonna block me. That’s all. So I’ll say your are right my majesty

 

[Maui]

 

[gsxr]

The engine is acctualy is installed in my 500e. You can come and check it out. Sorry

Sounds like that is pretty 124 compatible to me.

Shipping is no problem. Also I have a wooden box for it

Uh-oh. OK, so who's bidding...?

 

[gerryvz]

WTF is this forum ? What is it North Korea? Cant say anything against your opinion. You can call ppl idiots and block them? I didn’t say bad about anyone.

We don't need your "holier than thou" attitude and strong insinuations that well-established members here a) don't know what they are talking about; and b) are too cheap and tire-kicking to actually buy what you are selling.

I don't tolerate attitudes like yours here. If you want to start crap, please do it somewhere else.

As far as the engine in question is concerned: I may have erred in my earlier statement, as I was looking at the beginning of the thread when the engine was clearly an ME-based engine, from the photographs. If it was indeed converted to an LH-spec engine later, then I erred, and I sincerely apologize to you for being hasty in my response. I was wrong per the photo in post #18, if indeed that is still the same engine as in the first post.

However, given your condescending statements in the 7.2L M120 engine thread, and your overall confrontational attitude, my decision stands. We don't need here the engines and the attitude you offer. As you said yourself, folks here aren't your buyers.

Of course, if folks here ARE interested, you can contact the seller "gcmotor" on eBay or via his e-mail at armostrat@gmail.com

Cheers,
Gerry

 

[2phast]

We don't need your "holier than thou" attitude and strong insinuations that well-established members here a) don't know what they are talking about; and b) are too cheap and tire-kicking to actually buy what you are selling.

I don't tolerate attitudes like yours here. If you want to start crap, please do it somewhere else.

As far as the engine in question is concerned: I may have erred in my earlier statement, as I was looking at the beginning of the thread when the engine was clearly an ME-based engine, from the photographs. If it was indeed converted to an LH-spec engine later, than I erred, and I sincerely apologize to you for being hasty in my response. I was wrong per the photo in post #18, if indeed that is still the same engine as in the first post.

However, given your condescending statements in the 7.2L M120 engine thread, and your overall confrontational attitude, my decision stands. We don't need here the engines and the attitude you offer. As you said yourself, folks here aren't your buyers.

Of course, if folks here ARE interested, you can contact the seller "gcmotor" on eBay or via his e-mail at armostrat@gmail.com

Cheers,
Gerry

I fully agree with Gerry. These problems have a way of infecting social media outlets and can easily turn into a plague if not mediated. Gerry as well as many of us, have experienced this first hand and Gerry has made it very clear these issues will not propagate to this forum. For that, I am thankful for his diligence and quick response.

 

[S70/2]

Dust off the guillotine

 

[Trae]

I know that it takes time and energy to moderate, BUT

Thanks! The integrity of the board depends on it.

 

[ownerbuilder]

Look at this on eBay
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/254206239967

Same AMG 119980 appeared on ebay by same ebay GCMOTOR seller. See attached link.

 

[gsxr]

Can't build one for twice as much... that's a killer deal. Why is this not sold yet?

 

[gerryvz]

Looks like it could be a good spare motor for DITOG or Jono.

 

[Duh_Vinci]

Oh how nice it would be!!!

Regards,
D

 

[msq]

wrote to the seller, engine only has 63K miles on it...

I was thinking "maybe I should by a spare engine" but the reality is I don't have space or knowledge to ever put it in a car. Its obviously in much better hands like jonathan's or others one here. $11K seems like a good deal. If you dropped this in your car, since it wouldn't be original at that point anyway, I am wondering what other kind of upgrades you could do (forced induction?) and really create something out of the ordinary.

 

[Steve119]

Is this also an .980 that has been converted to distributors then?

Would it fit straight into a 500E?

 

[gerryvz]

I think a lot of questions would need to be asked about this motor before someone purchased it.

 

[nocfn]

get busy and one can miss a lot of stuff by not logging in!

 

[gsxr]

Is this also an .980 that has been converted to distributors then?

Yes.

Would it fit straight into a 500E?

Should be plug+play.

 

[stickyvicky]

Actually, budget to install this engine takes 20-25k ( price includes parts and labor and cost of engine in Moscow, Russia) to sit in the car and few months hard work
we had already some experience to this kind of installation with mods.
GSXR described shortly list of works above.

 

[jaymanek]

Well there is a reason this hasnt sold. The seller is a complete *******.

I was just asking simple questions like does it run well, hold fluids, oil pressure etc since he has it installed in his 500E. All i got was sarcastic answers and told me not to buy it.

I would avoid this guy... probably a blessing in disguise:

". It is very old engine. And one day the seals will go bad. This is an expensive hobby. So don’t waste your time with me by calculating taxes and other stuff. This engine is not for you"

when I asked for best complete price with shipping (ebay ad does have best offer option):

. Very best is 700$ and of course a 30 years old engine is in super excellent condition. ))
Good luck mate..