S210 55 AMG 4Matic Production Numbers.

[036]

I was looking for this information for many years.
But now i like to share this knoweledge with you guys. Got all Vedock screenshots, will never post them of course. Let me work it through and i´ll come up with colour combinations and other fun stuff.
There are 88 cars. Not 15.

 

[WDB748372]

I'm not sure who came up with "15" but I see it everywhere. There are also 41 sedans.

 

[maw1124]

I never knew there was such a car, 4Matic in a W210 55 AMG.

maw

EDIT… I stand corrected… says AMG 45, “after the model upgrade in 1999, the E55 AMG also became available as an E55 AMG 4Matic sedan and wagon with permanently engaged all wheel drive.” So I guess I knew after all. The book makes no mention of E50 or E60 4Matics or Estates, presumably because they weren’t around “after the model upgrade in 1999.”

 

[gsxr]

I never knew there was such a car, 4Matic in a W210 55 AMG.

ROW got all the cool toys, including the E50 and E60, in both sedan and wagon form... then the E55 variants... and 4Matics...

 

[WDB748372]

ROW got all the cool toys, including the E50 and E60, in both sedan and wagon form... then the E55 variants... and 4Matics...

Were there any E50 wagons? I never heard of that before.

@036 By the way, I looked it up right now on my spreadsheet of VINs, looks like there are 90? These all have 030 code and with a sales designation of "E 55 AMG 4MATIC"

 

[gsxr]

I may be wrong on the E50 wagons - I know very little about the 210 production data. I assumed that if E60 wagons existed, there must be some E50 as well - but maybe not!

 

[WDB748372]

I've done so much on the 210, thought I totally missed one of the coolest models! I'm almost certain there aren't any from the factory. The E50 should have the 957 code and there's one 957 210.272 which is the E60 I have.

 

[maw1124]

I've done so much on the 210, thought I totally missed one of the coolest models! I'm almost certain there aren't any from the factory. The E50 should have the 957 code and there's one 957 210.272 which is the E60 I have.

Did you track that E60 Estate back to the factory? Any chance that's a transplanted drivetrain into an Estate body?

AMG 45 doesn't mention that model, and the time frame (after 1999) wouldn't lead one to think it existed, which may or may not be a barometer for anything but raises the question.

maw

 

[WDB748372]

Did you track that E60 Estate back to the factory?

It's tracked back to the factory. I do have a copy of the original invoice.

Any chance that's a transplanted drivetrain into an Estate body?

Also yes! It's an E420 estate. It wasn't just a drivetrain transplant but there are 6 pages of line items on the invoice that totaled to 287,500 DM (~$160,000 USD) in 1997. (Navigation system, subwoofer in trunk, tweeters in rear door panels, revised seats, dashboard, headliner etc.) I can create an owner thread if anyone is interested.

AMG 45 doesn't mention that model, and the time frame (after 1999) wouldn't lead one to think it existed, which may or may not be a barometer for anything but raises the question.

Unlike the W124 E60, I don't believe the W/S210 E60 were official vehicles being offered but it could be requested or converted at a later date. Either case EPC certainly doesn't see an E60 but rather E50 or E420.

 

[gsxr]

I can create an owner thread if anyone is interested.

That would be fantastic!

Unlike the W124 E60, I don't believe the W/S210 E60 were official vehicles being offered but it could be requested or converted at a later date. Either case EPC certainly doesn't see an E60 but rather E50 or E420.

This is correct... the EPC does not acknowledge the existence of any W210 E60, only the E50. I'm not sure why, other than it would have been difficult to distinguish between the two without another unique option code.

 

[WDB748372]

it would have been difficult to distinguish between the two without another unique option code

Right and I don't think there is any option code that differentiates them. Without it, we'll probably never know the production numbers of W210 and S210 E60 models. I've gathered maybe 5-8 S210 E60, possibly some are the same car.

I've taken a look at the order of engine/transmission serial numbers but then again some cars with an AMG 60 stamp do have a stamped serial number that follows the sequence of other VINs when decoded.

 

[maw1124]

Also yes! It's an E420 estate...

That's what I figured. AMG 45 is actually pretty good about bragging about what they did.

maw

 

[036]

There are no E50 or E60 4matic.
How many sedans 210 55 4M were build we will check soon. Some say 155, i´m sure more...
We can surely also check E50 and E60, please give me 2 VINs....

 

[WDB748372]

WDB2100721A221024 (E50) (Engine SN 990751): This is an E50 that was sold.
WDB2100721A233920 (E60) (Engine SN 990917): Car came with a certification that it was converted in 1996. The Engine SN is similar to what most E50s are around.

The ones below could be E50/E60. They just have an Engine SN that's off than most. Perhaps you can spot a difference.
WDB2100721A068903 (Engine SN 003593)
WDB2100721A452710 (Engine SN 002939)

 

[2phast]

It's tracked back to the factory. I do have a copy of the original invoice.


Also yes! It's an E420 estate. It wasn't just a drivetrain transplant but there are 6 pages of line items on the invoice that totaled to 287,500 DM (~$160,000 USD) in 1997. (Navigation system, subwoofer in trunk, tweeters in rear door panels, revised seats, dashboard, headliner etc.) I can create an owner thread if anyone is interested.


Unlike the W124 E60, I don't believe the W/S210 E60 were official vehicles being offered but it could be requested or converted at a later date. Either case EPC certainly doesn't see an E60 but rather E50 or E420.

This is correct, the W210 E60 was not an official model. These are all E50's with a E60 upgrade package.

 

[036]

@036 By the way, I looked it up right now on my spreadsheet of VINs, looks like there are 90? These all have 030 code and with a sales designation of "E 55 AMG 4MATIC"

Thank you so much for this input! My source made a mistake, there are 90 cars.

PS I love when i get confirmation from more than one source, lovely.

 

[036]

Finally we can be sure and say- there are 41 sedans and 90 estates.

 

[Surf Blau]

Old thread which might have newer spawns, but as this seems on-topic I'll try here anyway;

A 2000 S210 E55 AMG 4Matic appeared for sale here recently, which caught my interest - it has done almost 300Kkm and doesn't exactly look collectable any longer, but the rarity of them is appealing regardless of its condition. But, even though it is registered as an E55 AMG 4Matic it comes up as an E430 4Matic when I check its VIN - I know the base of the engine is the same, but is this how things were done back then? Besides the fact that it has some unique codes indicating that it might have been a pre-production press car, there are no codes that indicates its AMG pedigree either..

 

[gsxr]

Old thread which might have newer spawns, but as this seems on-topic I'll try here anyway;

A 2000 S210 E55 AMG 4Matic appeared for sale here recently, which caught my interest - it has done almost 300Kkm and doesn't exactly look collectable any longer, but the rarity of them is appealing regardless of its condition. But, even though it is registered as an E55 AMG 4Matic it comes up as an E430 4Matic when I check its VIN - I know the base of the engine is the same, but is this how things were done back then? Besides the fact that it has some unique codes indicating that it might have been a pre-production press car, there are no codes that indicates its AMG pedigree either..

Sounds like the car received an engine swap to upgrade from 4.3L to 5.4L. I'd ask to see a photo of the engine serial number, which may help solve the mystery. Could also be a stock 4.3L engine with AMG bodykit & wheels...

 

[maw1124]

Could also be a stock 4.3L engine with AMG bodykit & wheels...

Translation: "They might just be lying."



maw

 

[WDB748372]

But, even though it is registered as an E55 AMG 4Matic it comes up as an E430 4Matic when I check its VIN - I know the base of the engine is the same, but is this how things were done back then?

This is expected. The E55 4matic sedans and wagons were based on the E430 4Matic so the VIN will still decode to a 210.083 or 210.283. The E55's received a "030" code to their datacard.

Besides the fact that it has some unique codes indicating that it might have been a pre-production press car, there are no codes that indicates its AMG pedigree either..

Possibly. The first E55 4Matic wagon is WDB2102831X034282 which is after WDB2102831X024337 so it might be some press/pre-production vehicle.

it has done almost 300Kkm and doesn't exactly look collectable any longer, but the rarity of them is appealing regardless of its condition.

But is the press vehicle aspect more desirable than one with an 030 code? Considering the "some paint rust, damage to front bumper and engine light is on. Nothing noticeable while driving" description, I'm not sure any part of this is really that collectible or appealing at least to me. Might be a cheap way to get in an E55 4Matic wagon, assuming it is one.

I have a few photos from when I saw this attached.

 

[Surf Blau]

Thanks for the input, guys!

Based on the rarity of the car I'm sure it will become a collectible at a certain point, but it does not appear like that as of now (not helped by the fact that 210s aren't exactly the hottest models yet). Even from the extremely poor photos you can clearly see rust on the car, which makes me wonder how much it has behind trim and panels..

But, besides that; This car was built in early 1999, and has some option codes indicating that it was special in some way or the other, but does anyone have a VIN from another S210 E55 4Matic to compare with?

 

[WDB748372]

does anyone have a VIN from another S210 E55 4Matic to compare with?

The first E55 4Matic wagon is WDB2102831X034282

Datacard: https://www.lastvin.com/vin/BPr5q2vrOlr2XmxML

 

[Surf Blau]

Durrr, of course! Thanks - I see this is built ca six months later than the Norwegian one, which makes me wonder if this is indeed a pre-production car. I've never seen notes like these on a data card before either:





Particularly the last sentence, which is roughly translated to "procedures still to be determined", would indicate this. Option code 019 also says that this is indeed a "demonstration vehicle".

 

[Surf Blau]

The first E55 4Matic wagon is WDB2102831X034282

Datacard: https://www.lastvin.com/vin/BPr5q2vrOlr2XmxML

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Weird that this has a note to inform that the AMG-package is installed instead of the option code listed though.