Touch Screens Are Ruining Cars

[2phast]

Another beautiful situation. Finance your always connected car through Ford credit, miss a payment and they shut off your car. Happened to a Ford Lightening EV owner.

 

[doolar]

Ha well if you didn’t pay for it you don’t own it.

 

[2phast]

The first thing I would do if I bought a vehicle with a cellular connection would be to disable the device or disconnect the antennas.

From sex life to politics: car driver data grab presents ‘privacy nightmare’, says study

Mozilla Foundation studied 25 car brands and found some collecting data on ‘sexual activity’ and ‘political opinions

amp.theguardian.com

 

[2phast]

Ha well if you didn’t pay for it you don’t own it.

Yea, thats not really the point. If you don't make your payments it gets repo's. The whole point is, that they can actually do this. That is too much control of your own personal property that the manufactures have.

 

[Jlaa]

Yea, thats not really the point. If you don't make your payments it gets repo's. The whole point is, that they can actually do this. That is too much control of your own personal property that the manufactures have.

I mean to play devil's advocate though ----- if you owe money on "your" car then it is not actually "your" car --- it is the bank's car, and the bank now has better control of its property.....

I know what you mean though... first thing I did with my new-ish Toyota was to disable the "phone home" functionality.

 

[2phast]

I mean to play devil's advocate though ----- if you owe money on "your" car then it is not actually "your" car --- it is the bank's car, and the bank now has better control of its property.....

I know what you mean though... first thing I did with my new-ish Toyota was to disable the "phone home" functionality.

Not only is it an invasion of privacy. There are stories floating around that this occurs when owners are actually driving or when they are out shopping or on vacation. It can ruin a vacation or cause an accident if your vehicle is shut off in traffic. You can't justify this type of manufacture meddling assuming they would do it when your at home with the car in the garage, the manufactures don't exercise that level of curtesy.

If your not making your payments, they know where you live and work, the repo man will get the car without this level of intrusion.

I agree though, the cellular and/or wifi connectivity would be the first item I disable with maybe a quarterly hookup for system updates and/or visits to the dealer for warranty work.

 

[Alphasud40]

Sorry to stray off topic but right now there are so many delinquent payments on car loans customers are driving around for months until the finance company can find a repo company to get the car. As far as the right to privacy we gave that up in 2007 when Apple introduced the IPhone. Like it or not all of your information is tracked and you are being listened to for marketing purposes and potentially other reasons. Unless you drive an old car your vehicle will tell on you if you are involved in an accident and they want to retrieve crash data from the SRS module. My only hope is the data collection isn’t going to be used against law abiding citizens.

 

[2phast]

Sorry to stray off topic but right now there are so many delinquent payments on car loans customers are driving around for months until the finance company can find a repo company to get the car. As far as the right to privacy we gave that up in 2007 when Apple introduced the IPhone. Like it or not all of your information is tracked and you are being listened to for marketing purposes and potentially other reasons. Unless you drive an old car your vehicle will tell on you if you are involved in an accident and they want to retrieve crash data from the SRS module. My only hope is the data collection isn’t going to be used against law abiding citizens.

Data collection from the SRS module is a manual procedure and it only contains information related to airbag deployment, speed, braking etc. That isn't something were discussing, as the information is not collected, parsed and sold. Although in a insurance claim, it can be used to determine if your lying about the events of an accident

Unlike your automobile, Android and iPhones can be easily configured to not collect and process personal data. We have direct control over the camera, microphone, location services, cookies etc. You don't have this level of control in newer cars.

 

[doolar]

Unlike your automobile, Android and iPhones can be easily configured to not collect and process personal data. We have direct control over the camera, microphone, location services, cookies etc. You don't have this level of control in newer cars.

This is what I’m thinking of too. The user doesn’t have any control over data collection in a car, while I on my iPhone at least can restrict a lot of the harvesting. I can choose to not use certain apps etc.

With our company VW Transporter vans, if we want to use VW’s app to start the auxiliary heater remotely, we have to agree to all of the data harvesting. I just think it’s unethical. There’s no reason at all for VW to collect any data for this service, that we already paid for.

This guy is pretty spot on I think:

Moderator edit: TLDR - the 31st right should be owning/controlling your own data.