All W124 cars 0-60 time

[Dunnik]

Zero to 100 kph, actually - close enough. Acceleration of all (or almost all) W124 models, from the E200D to the E500.

 

[gsxr]

Nice. Needs an E60 in there to round out the M119's!

 

[Dunnik]

Can't think of many other models where one version gets to 100 kph in under five and a half seconds while another takes over eighteen, and all of that is working as intended

 

[ace10]

Can't think of many other models where one version gets to 100 kph in under five and a half seconds while another takes over eighteen, and all of that is working as intended

Had this challenge running in the back of my head all afternoon. lol

Mercedes W463, for sure. G63 could do the dash in the low 5's. (my 2013 G550 was 5.8-6.0) and then there were the tiny I4's and NA oil burners that probably were struggling to reach 60. Eventually.

Then I was thinking about the 2nd Gen GM A bodies from the late 60's to early 70's. A '70 Chevelle SS 454 would certainly do the deed. And then maybe there was some weird way to configure one with the 230cid I6 motor (140hp) and a 2-speed Powerglide slushbox. Unconfirmed if that combo existed, but if it did, it would be a real turd.

Anybody else?

 

[LWB250]

What about the Pontons? Like the diesel versus the S-class versions with the inline six? Certainly not in the low digits, but the disparity between the two would be substantial, I imagine. Same with the W110s.

Dan

 

[Bogeyman]

2 speed Powerglide could potentially double the time of any drivetrain.

 

[ace10]

2 speed Powerglide could potentially double the time of any drivetrain.

That's what I was thinking.
It took 450hp from the LS6 coupled to a 4 speed to make into the 5 second range.

Less than 1/3 the power and half the gears would have to result in glacial acceleration.

 

[ace10]

Got another one...

Fox body mustang. The early cars (1979) offered a 2.3 I4 with 86hp and a 3 speed auto. Exact 0-60 times are hard to verify, but for that motor I saw 12.X up to 18. The final year (1993) SVT Cobra was a mid 5 second car.

 

[yao500e]

Wow! w124 500e is 5.2 sec 0-60? I guess so many factors and variables affects off-line acceleration.

cool video. thank you.

 

[gsxr]

Wow! w124 500e is 5.2 sec 0-60? I guess so many factors and variables affects off-line acceleration.

Nope, there's no stock 5.0L E500E that can get 0-100kph in 5.2 seconds. That time was estimated from the speedometer and a stopwatch, both of which are less than accurate. Real-world times with accurate measurement equipment will be more in the ballpark of 6.0 seconds to 100kph (or, 5.7-5.9 seconds to 60mph).

Low 5-second range is where a W124 6.0L car would be, traction permitting. Lack of grip off the line is the biggest issue with a 6L engine.

 

[gsxr]

Details for video below:

1994 Mercedes E500, stock wheels/tires, stock gears, stock differential, stock brakes, stock 1994 engine (5.0L) with 1992 LH module, 280rwhp. Data recorded with RaceTech AP-22 computer showed the following times on two back to back runs - the second run was a bit slower as the engine was hotter:​

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0-60 = 5.84 & 5.88 seconds​

0-100 = 13.69 & 14.00 seconds​

0-130 = 24.21 & 25.62 seconds​

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Car had 3/4 tank of fuel and was in normal street trim (spare tire in trunk, etc). Elevation was 2400' above sea level and ambient temp was very cold, as seen by the thermometer reading in the dash (~32°F, 0°C). The times would have been a tenth or two quicker if ASR hadn't engaged. Note that the speedometer is accurate within 1-2mph up to about 100mph, but after that it is "optimistic", i.e. at an actual 130mph, the speedometer indicates approximately 135mph. The AP-22 data is accurate within 1% and has been calibrated & verified via dragstrip timing lights. ​

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UPDATE: I recently learned the tachometer is reading 200-300rpm high at ~6000rpm. Actual shift point is 6000rpm, ±50rpm, per an AutoMeter tach with peak recall function.​

 

[yao500e]

Nope, there's no stock 5.0L E500E that can get 0-100kph in 5.2 seconds. That time was estimated from the speedometer and a stopwatch, both of which are less than accurate. Real-world times with accurate measurement equipment will be more in the ballpark of 6.0 seconds to 100kph (or, 5.7-5.9 seconds to 60mph).

Low 5-second range is where a W124 6.0L car would be, traction permitting. Lack of grip off the line is the biggest issue with a 6L engine.

I agree with you on w124 500e should be around 6 sec. 0-100 kph.
(i believe 4 speed w202 C36 had very similar 0-100 kph as w124 500e)

Which means:
w210 E50 AMG with 3.06 rear gear 5 speed and +30hp M119 should be around 5.5 sec;
w210 E55 AMG with 2.82 rear gear 5 speed +30hp and nearly 390 lb ft torque is around 5 sec. I believe i saw Car Driver say E55 is 4.8 sec 0-60 mph.

Does that sound accurate?

 

[gsxr]

Which means:
w210 E50 AMG with 3.06 rear gear 5 speed and +30hp M119 should be around 5.5 sec;
w210 E55 AMG with 2.82 rear gear 5 speed +30hp and nearly 390 lb ft torque is around 5 sec. I believe i saw Car Driver say E55 is 4.8 sec 0-60 mph.

Road & Track tested an E50 in May 1996 and it was 5.4 seconds to 60mph.

The W210 E55 tested at 4.9-5.0 seconds by both C&D and Motor Trend.

 

[WDB748372]

@gsxr I've been entertaining the idea of getting a performance meter recently to try on a stock, tuned, and supercharged W210 E55 along with the E60.
Are there any devices you'd suggest? I've been looking at a Dragy.

 

[gsxr]

@gsxr I've been entertaining the idea of getting a performance meter recently to try on a stock, tuned, and supercharged W210 E55 along with the E60.
Are there any devices you'd suggest? I've been looking at a Dragy.

Excellent question! I copied the above post and replied in a new thread here:

Recommendations for performance meters / dagaloggers? | Street and Strip

@gsxr I've been entertaining the idea of getting a performance meter recently to try on a stock, tuned, and supercharged W210 E55 along with the E60. Are there any devices you'd suggest? I've been looking at a Dragy.

www.500eboard.co

 

[duuder]

@gsxr I've been entertaining the idea of getting a performance meter recently to try on a stock, tuned, and supercharged W210 E55 along with the E60.
Are there any devices you'd suggest? I've been looking at a Dragy.

you have access to a supercharged W210 E55? do tell plz

 

[WDB748372]

you have access to a supercharged W210 E55? do tell plz

Those four are my vehicles and the supercharged one is the latest and hopefully the last 210 purchase! It's not a rare color or anything but a Kleemann supercharged with their 19" rims and brakes. I can add a few photos in my owners thread later as I don't have access to it at the moment. I drove it straight into storage and it's been tucked away since. Nothing much beyond that however thoroughly enjoyed the drive back on the highways. I don't drive often anyway so I'm looking forward to driving that when the weather is nice then my crusty Jetta in the winter.

 

[duuder]

Is it a pre-face? Man... those are

 

[yao500e]

Road & Track tested an E50 in May 1996 and it was 5.4 seconds to 60mph.

The W210 E55 tested at 4.9-5.0 seconds by both C&D and Motor Trend.

good info! that sounds about right. There is another website that states E50 is 5.2 sec. but again, so many factors to affect off line acceleration. But I find it strange that e55 is typically 0.5 sec faster 0-60 (0-100 kph) with a 2.82 rear gears vs E50 with 3.06 rear diff.

Would be great to transplant the E50 m119 AMG motor and 5 speed in the w124 500e! LOL

 

[gsxr]

Would be great to transplant the E50 m119 AMG motor and 5 speed in the w124 500e! LOL

Forum member @Markus-MD did just that... click here.

 

[WDB748372]

Is it a pre-face? Man... those are

It is a facelift but I do prefer the pre-facelift as it's a bit more squared off. Plus I'm a fan of the older tail lights. What I'm looking forward to the most is the sleeper aspect. It should at least keep up with more modern AMGs and Ms so for some 20+ year old Mercedes I don't think many would see that coming!

By far one of my most notable memories in the E60 was the second or third time I drove it. No plates or trunk emblem yet, just driving late at night and stopped next to a GLE53. We both launched at a red light and I was about a car or two ahead. Granted GLE is the heavier vehicle and he probably didn't have time to use the fancy launch control but the raw power of the M119 6.0L caught us both by surprise. I had a huge smile, amazed how noticeably quicker it was compared to a W210 E55 whilst he and his wife later pulled up also laughing that a 25 year old station wagon did that.

 

[yao500e]

It is a facelift but I do prefer the pre-facelift as it's a bit more squared off. Plus I'm a fan of the older tail lights. What I'm looking forward to the most is the sleeper aspect. It should at least keep up with more modern AMGs and Ms so for some 20+ year old Mercedes I don't think many would see that coming!

By far one of my most notable memories in the E60 was the second or third time I drove it. No plates or trunk emblem yet, just driving late at night and stopped next to a GLE53. We both launched at a red light and I was about a car or two ahead. Granted GLE is the heavier vehicle and he probably didn't have time to use the fancy launch control but the raw power of the M119 6.0L caught us both by surprise. I had a huge smile, amazed how noticeably quicker it was compared to a W210 E55 whilst he and his wife later pulled up also laughing that a 25 year old station wagon did that.

Im also very partial to the first gen pre-facelist w210. It has aged better than the 2nd gen facelift model.
w210 E50's and E60's, '98-'99 E55 with bodykit look better than the late model E55's curvy artistic body kit.

I ran neck in neck in my '97 E50 vs my buddy's '00 E55.

 

[yao500e]

Forum member @Markus-MD did just that... click here.

truly amazing. w124 500e with the E50 m119 and 722.6 transmission has to be the best mod to make! I would imagine such a mod would increase the value of an 500e?