SOLD SOLD: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

[clarkz71]

No longer for sale, now part of my personal hoard..... I mean stock.


I ordered a few tubes of the green MB wheel bearing grease

Not much room for profit but I can do $7.50 a tube, you pick shipping method

Priority is $5.95 now, so first class mail would make more sense.

Gerry, I eagerly await the "gouge reprimand"

 

[gerryvz]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Since 400Eric has sadly departed, I guess I am the keeper of the "gouge" meme here.

So......without further ado.....

"Seriously Vader, just cause MB is gouging the market, doesn't mean we need to. That's a $5 part, max. With shipping."

 

[clarkz71]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Since 400Eric has sadly departed, I guess I am the keeper of the "gouge" meme here.

So......without further ado.....

"Seriously Vader, just cause MB is gouging the market, doesn't mean we need to. That's a $5 part, max. With shipping."

See that, you make me feel like Eric is still here, nicely done...

 

[Maui]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

I guess I missed the drama of Eric's departure.

 

[clarkz71]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

In 400Eric's absence, the substitute gouging Police


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[gerryvz]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

I guess I missed the drama of Eric's departure.

Not worth much more thought. Move along, move along.

 

[clarkz71]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

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OK, back to the wheel bearing grease, when's the last time you guys serviced yours

I can order a gross of inner seals and sell a "front wheel bearing service kit"

Just like Dave's Uncle Kent

 

[Ascension]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Serious question here in what's so special about this particular bearing grease?
Lots of really good high temp synthetics out there for a lot less $ so??

 

[clarkz71]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Serious question here in what's so special about this particular bearing grease?
Lots of really good high temp synthetics out there for less $ so??

It's the only wheel bearing grease sold in the US that is MB approved specification 265.1

Look at ANY other grease sold in your local auto parts store and try to find one that is


http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/265.1_en.html

 

[Ascension]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

It's the only wheel bearing grease sold in the US that is MB approved specification 265.1

Look at ANY other grease sold in your local auto parts store and try to find one that is


http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/265.1_en.html

Ok got that. Now another serious question is this because MB wants to play politics with the approved product list and get paid for a product to be on it or because nothing else out there meets the performance requirements needed?
Those requirements would be temp, sheer and viscosity I should think.

 

[Glen]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Since we know that the front wheel bearings are standard items available at most auto parts stores, I don't think the MB grease is a requirement.
Personally, I use it because I like the tubes as opposed to cans/tubs of grease.

I think it's important to note that if you do use an alternate grease, be sure to thoroughly clean the bearings and hub of any/all residual MB grease before applying a different grease.

 

[jhodg5ck]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

IDk, I've been using Mobil 1's synthetic (?) wheel bearing grease for some 15 years now.. i've never had a problem.

IMHO, the vast majority of bearing failures are the results of improperly set torque/tension and people neglecting them as they loosen up/need adjusting. I get some cars coming in w/ Wicked bearing clunk, show the customer and they're Astounded. @ which point the bearings/races have been Pounded into submission....

jono

 

[clarkz71]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

You must be under the impression that Mercedes Benz is a lubricant manufacturer, they're not

Mobil supplies the Mobil 1 synthetic engine oil they use,
Fuchs supplies the ATF, and I'm not sure
which company does grease and hydraulic oil, but MB sets the performance specifications
and the the supplier that meets that spec, in this case 265.1 gets the contract

All I can tell you is it's made in Germany.

Long story short, they have no skin in the game, no political conspricy or price fixing. Sorry

 

[clarkz71]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

IDk, I've been using Mobil 1's synthetic (?) wheel bearing grease for some 15 years now.. i've never had a problem.

IMHO, the vast majority of bearing failures are the results of improperly set torque/tension and people neglecting them as they loosen up/need adjusting. I get some cars coming in w/ Wicked bearing clunk, show the customer and they're Astounded. @ which point the bearings/races have been Pounded into submission....

jono

I like the pretty green color

 

[clarkz71]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Thanks guys, I guess I have a lifetime supply of wheel bearing grease.

I guess now it's

ATF opinion threads
engine oil opinion threads
grease opinion threads

Only on my "for sale threads" could this happen.............

 

[jhodg5ck]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

I'm not saying in the Least that anyone shouldn't buy this stuff..it's great stuff..I Have used it when I have it around, ie I've had it come in wheel bearing kits from MB etc..

But that aside, when I'm short of grease having to wait or run down to the dealer doesn't always blend into our time frame...rolling down to the mcparts store and grabbing a tub of M1 happens a Lot easier!

So buy away, this is a Very reasonable price!! Stock up, make the shipping worth while....

Jono

 

[gerryvz]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Since we know that the front wheel bearings are standard items available at most auto parts stores, I don't think the MB grease is a requirement.
Personally, I use it because I like the tubes as opposed to cans/tubs of grease.

I think it's important to note that if you do use an alternate grease, be sure to thoroughly clean the bearings and hub of any/all residual MB grease before applying a different grease.

I've used many WBGs (wheel bearing greases) over the years but several years ago started using the green MB grease. It's easy to tack a couple of tubes onto a parts order. One tube should be more than enough to do a front axle. It is imperative to clean the bearings of old grease (if re-using), which I do with solvent/parts washer and then use compressed air to blow them clean.

If you go with new front wheel bearings, it's imperative to get a good name. Timken are what I would recommend as aftermarket, or FAG is probably fine too. Try to avoid Chinese made bearings if possible. Remember that you'll need two of each bearing, per axle.

The biggest thing is to get the bearings adjusted correctly, for which one needs a dial gauge.

This is a bit of an esoteric part. Many if not most folks will never [need to] repack/replace wheel bearings during their ownership of the car. Remember most owners don't tend to hang onto their cars for more than 3-5 years before getting bored and moving on. I've owned my E500 for 11+ years and have only repacked the front wheel bearings once on that car, and only once in 12 years on my 560SEC when I replaced the front rotors earlier this year.

Cheers,
Gerry

P.S. Is McParts the same as FLAPS?

 

[Glen]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Sorry Clark, I was simply answering a question from a fellow member. Yes, my opinion and I'm sure everyone will take it as such.
And like I said, I use it because I like the tubes it comes in.

 

[clarkz71]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Man, I must be getting real good at this Chain Yank deal, hence the title

Chain-Yank Master

Don't be so easy guys...............

 

[clarkz71]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

I've used many WBGs (wheel bearing greases) over the years but several years ago started using the green MB grease. It's easy to tack a couple of tubes onto a parts order.

One tube should be more than enough to do a front axle.

Cheers,
Gerry

Yes, the capacity on the 034/036 is 140 grams.
One tube is 150 grams

But I like to put quite a bit of grease in the cavity between the bearings

One tube I run short with, I use 1.5 tubes or 225 grams

 

[gerryvz]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Yoink didn't work on me,

 

[clarkz71]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Yoink didn't work on me,

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You are worthy of the title "Yeoman of Yoink"

 

[gerryvz]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

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You are worthy of the title "Yeoman of Yoink"

I've got my best one yet, brewing on GSXR

 

[samiam44]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Wow Eric400 is departed?


Oh well, yea I agree with Gerry on Bearings- remember Autozone sells Timken bearings so you can get a set for ~ $20 at your local store.

I cannot remember but seems like the MB wheel bearing spec goes over to a MIL standard which is .. F-18 wheel bearing grease. Timken sells good high quality grease also. I like bright colored greases as then you can tell by color if it's seen too much heat or needs to be changed.

Michael

 

[gsxr]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

I like the pretty green color

+1 on the psychedelic neon green. A must for Limiteds with green interiors!

Seriously, I only use the MB stuff that Clark is selling here. I'm sure there are other greases which will perform admirably but for seven bucks per car, I'm not interested in experimenting. Shops that use large quantities may prefer to use something that comes in bulk, instead of one-tube-per-car amounts.

Be careful to measure out the correct quantity for the races, hub center, and outer cap (grease reservoir). A postal scale should be adequate, a refrigerant scale is even better. A proper bearing clean/repack is a miserable, messy, tedious job. On the bright side, the re-greasing procedure is usually another once-per-ownership hassle. Oh, and don't even think about setting the preload without a dial gauge and magnetic mount per the FSM...

 

[jhodg5ck]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

I Think depending on road conditions the bearing adjustment might vary regionally but IME here @ the shop, 124/129/140's need adjusting on a semi regular basis. If it's a car that has never been here before 95% of them need adjusting.

I could figure out the interval if I go Digging through invoices, but eh...that said, it's not a Regular thing, but they do loosen up!

jono

 

[clarkz71]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Here's the specs on weight from WIS, Middle one is 034/036/032 (70 grams per side)

 

[clarkz71]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

I see a few Timken fans, myself included. Check it out

 

[gsxr]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Jono, sorry, I wasn't clear - I updated my previous post. I meant re-packing/replacing the grease is usually a one-time thing. I have noticed the same as you, the adjustment should be checked periodically and twiddled as required.

I can't seem to find the MB recommended inspection interval (or, grease replacement interval) for the wheel bearings. Clark? Anything in the WIS?

 

[gerryvz]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Bearing ADJUSTMENT is very different than REMOVAL/REPACKING and/or REPLACEMENT though. I'd say that adjustment should be checked every 15-30K.

 

[clarkz71]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

I agree, and when I get to that point I inspect the outer bearing and race if it's
a car I don't know he history of.

I can't seem to find the MB recommended inspection interval (or, grease replacement interval) for the wheel bearings. Clark? Anything in the WIS?

Nothing in WIS or the maintenance sheets

Personally I do a 50K WBSI

 

[clarkz71]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Also just noticed, there's something different about this grease. The tube has a warning about mixing.

"Special grease for front wheel bearings of MB passenger cars"
"It must not be mixed with other greases"
"According to MB specifications for service products, sheet 265.1"

 

[M104-AMG]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Under General Principle, it ALWAYS presumed NOT to mix different greases. Also, if using compressed-air, don't use it to spin the bearings dry.

Someday I'd like to find Krytox grease at a non-stratospheric price . . .

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=940586

neil

 

[clarkz71]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

I personally never paid attention to that

I always totally clean the bearings, the spindle and wash the hub completely in the parts washer
Everything looks new out of the box before I repack.

Only half ass techs "just" repack the bearings without cleaning the other parts

 

[gerryvz]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Also, if you replace bearings, you MUST replace the races too !!

 

[clarkz71]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Under General Principle, it ALWAYS presumed NOT to mix different greases.
Also, if using compressed-air, don't use it to spin the bearings dry.

Yeah, my father taught me that when I was 14.

Someday I'd like to find Krytox grease at a non-stratospheric price . . .

neil

I think the MB approved grease, tried and proven for over 20 years. (Green grease) will suffice
They switched from the old yellow looking grease some time back then.

 

[clarkz71]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Also, if you replace bearings, you MUST replace the races too !!

Damn, I always just throw those away, you're supposed to use those?

 

[gerryvz]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

I once heard that techs were told those are just metal rings to protect the bearing rollers for shipping.

 

[Glen]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Damn, I always just throw those away, you're supposed to use those?

Nice try...

 

[gsxr]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Krytox makes MB grease look downright cheap. Whoa.

 

[clarkz71]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

I once heard that techs were told those are just metal rings to protect the bearing rollers for shipping.

Yes, I started that story.........

 

[gerryvz]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

I remember reading it a while back on the Banzworld 124 forum, and I didn't know who you were back then ... so that makes sense. I just remembered the statement, not its author. Good to know !! Very Cascadian of you....

 

[clarkz71]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Considering I just made that up, you must have me mistaken for shepster or qbert

Don't tell me you fell into the yoink trap........?

 

[clarkz71]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Two tubes SOLD to a true MB enthusiast.

 

[gerryvz]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Two tubes SOLD to a true MB enthusiast.

Q*baert?

 

[clarkz71]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Q*baert?

Nope

Member on this forum

Those tight asses on Banzworld would never pony up $7.50 a tube for grease
They think it's all the same and shop at Autozone and other local parts stores

 

[gerryvz]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

The MB "green grease" in the tubes is manufactured by Fuchs. It's identical to FUCHS Renolit LX-PEP 2. It is the same grease that is specified for chassis greasing on the G-wagens, as well as the front swivel balls, wheel bearings, etc. It's most economical to buy this grease in tubes that will fit into a grease gun.

Cheers,
Gerry

 

[clarkz71]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

That's correct, Fuchs supplies MB with most of it's Petro-Chemical products.

 

[modzona]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Whats the part nr on the mb grease?

 

[clarkz71]

Re: Genuine MB wheel bearing grease 150 gram tubes

Whats the part nr on the mb grease?

MB 150gr tubes, 002 989 00 51 10