FOR SALE 1995 E500 Limited 6.0 AMG, Sapphire Black/Black/Red, 84kkm, €0.167M (Somewhere in Germany)

[Dario]

ADMIN EDIT: For sale again May 2020, see post #24 below. Thread title updated.

VIN = WDB1240361C177837

just saw this [Japan auction] looks interesting

 

[jhodg5ck]

Re: 1995 E60 1 of 12 for sale in Dubai 84K blue/black auction

 

[fudgitive]

Re: 1995 E60 1 of 12 for sale in Dubai 84K blue/black auction

This car is for sale in Japan not Dubai - it goes to auction in 16 hours from now:
http://japautoauctions.com/aj-30vtsTAf18QYAxd.htm


The seller in Dubai is just posting auction listings.

 

[gsxr]

Re: 1995 E60 1 of 12 for sale in Dubai 84K blue/black auction

It's a conversion... code 958 only, as seen in the datacard Jono posted above.

http://www.datamb.com/vin/w1LQyK2rJQ82evaBN

 

[IanAtkins]

Re: FS: 1995 E500 Limited 6.0 AMG, Black/Black/Red, 84kkm (Japan auction)

If I ever drive an E60, i'll have to have the money to buy it, because I don't want anything sexier to take away from the unconditional love I have for my E500.

In the UK, we have to keep below 90mph pretty much all the time. Some motorways have less surveillance than others, same with the A-roads, but the time is coming where we'll be continually watched by cameras . As I get older, I'm appreciating more and more driving slowly, especially in the 500. A couple of weeks ago I was driving back from my kid's school - a good 2.5 hours in the car, and I purposely drove slowly - on or around 60mph all the way. I exulted in the new feel of the car. The smoothness, and the response from a little push on the accelerator and the feel of reeling it back in... (it's the only car i've ever really enjoyed driving in my stockinged feet)

Having said that - the UK didn't sign a European treaty of some kind that meant that speeding offenders could be chased back to their homes in England, so basically if you're not caught by a real policeman with a radar gun in Europe, you'll be ok.. If you are caught however, you can expect to be punished.

So without abusing the privilege (because who wants Johnny Foreigner speeding through your country at 140mph?) I did have several opportunities to drive the car fast in Europe on my trip from the UK to Italy last Christmas. Whereas in England you have to take your foot off the pedal at 100mph or you risk losing your licence, in France and Italy there's the freedom, occasionally, to do that.

The car completely changes character above 100mph. It becomes tighter and the engine snarls and you feel/hear another side to the car completely. From 100 to 120/130 and very occasionally beyond (I had a stint in Germany on the way back) it's like the car is completely made for those speeds. It hunkers down, like 911s, you lose very little of the quietness or comfort of course, but what you feel through the wheel and the suspension is magical, it was sublime, sporty, requiring full concentration like any brilliant sports car, communicating and making you forget completely that it's a saloon.

While I was looking to buy, I spoke to a very kind gentleman that said the E500 he had was better than his 5-year old Aston. He was fully aware of how that sounded, doubtful and absurd when he told me, but after a couple of thousand miles in the car in Europe I can only imagine that he was absolutely right. I'm so happy I didn't get a Continental GT instead.....

 

[126v8]

Re: FS: 1995 E500 Limited 6.0 AMG, Black/Black/Red, 84kkm (Japan auction)

If I ever drive an E60, i'll have to have the money to buy it, because I don't want anything sexier to take away from the unconditional love I have for my E500.

In the UK, we have to keep below 90mph pretty much all the time. Some motorways have less surveillance than others, same with the A-roads, but the time is coming where we'll be continually watched by cameras . As I get older, I'm appreciating more and more driving slowly, especially in the 500. A couple of weeks ago I was driving back from my kid's school - a good 2.5 hours in the car, and I purposely drove slowly - on or around 60mph all the way. I exulted in the new feel of the car. The smoothness, and the response from a little push on the accelerator and the feel of reeling it back in... (it's the only car i've ever really enjoyed driving in my stockinged feet)

Having said that - the UK didn't sign a European treaty of some kind that meant that speeding offenders could be chased back to their homes in England, so basically if you're not caught by a real policeman with a radar gun in Europe, you'll be ok.. If you are caught however, you can expect to be punished.

So without abusing the privilege (because who wants Johnny Foreigner speeding through your country at 140mph?) I did have several opportunities to drive the car fast in Europe on my trip from the UK to Italy last Christmas. Whereas in England you have to take your foot off the pedal at 100mph or you risk losing your licence, in France and Italy there's the freedom, occasionally, to do that.

The car completely changes character above 100mph. It becomes tighter and the engine snarls and you feel/hear another side to the car completely. From 100 to 120/130 and very occasionally beyond (I had a stint in Germany on the way back) it's like the car is completely made for those speeds. It hunkers down, like 911s, you lose very little of the quietness or comfort of course, but what you feel through the wheel and the suspension is magical, it was sublime, sporty, requiring full concentration like any brilliant sports car, communicating and making you forget completely that it's a saloon.

While I was looking to buy, I spoke to a very kind gentleman that said the E500 he had was better than his 5-year old Aston. He was fully aware of how that sounded, doubtful and absurd when he told me, but after a couple of thousand miles in the car in Europe I can only imagine that he was absolutely right. I'm so happy I didn't get a Continental GT instead.....

500E!!!!!

 

[maw1124]

Re: FS: 1995 E500 Limited 6.0 AMG, Black/Black/Red, 84kkm (Japan auction)

Some have nicknamed these E500E's "The Locomotive", because they just plant and go...

maw

 

[sheward]

Re: FS: 1995 E500 Limited 6.0 AMG, Black/Black/Red, 84kkm (Japan auction)

If I ever drive an E60, i'll have to have the money to buy it, because I don't want anything sexier to take away from the unconditional love I have for my E500.

In the UK, we have to keep below 90mph pretty much all the time. Some motorways have less surveillance than others, same with the A-roads, but the time is coming where we'll be continually watched by cameras . As I get older, I'm appreciating more and more driving slowly, especially in the 500. A couple of weeks ago I was driving back from my kid's school - a good 2.5 hours in the car, and I purposely drove slowly - on or around 60mph all the way. I exulted in the new feel of the car. The smoothness, and the response from a little push on the accelerator and the feel of reeling it back in... (it's the only car i've ever really enjoyed driving in my stockinged feet)

Having said that - the UK didn't sign a European treaty of some kind that meant that speeding offenders could be chased back to their homes in England, so basically if you're not caught by a real policeman with a radar gun in Europe, you'll be ok.. If you are caught however, you can expect to be punished.

So without abusing the privilege (because who wants Johnny Foreigner speeding through your country at 140mph?) I did have several opportunities to drive the car fast in Europe on my trip from the UK to Italy last Christmas. Whereas in England you have to take your foot off the pedal at 100mph or you risk losing your licence, in France and Italy there's the freedom, occasionally, to do that.

The car completely changes character above 100mph. It becomes tighter and the engine snarls and you feel/hear another side to the car completely. From 100 to 120/130 and very occasionally beyond (I had a stint in Germany on the way back) it's like the car is completely made for those speeds. It hunkers down, like 911s, you lose very little of the quietness or comfort of course, but what you feel through the wheel and the suspension is magical, it was sublime, sporty, requiring full concentration like any brilliant sports car, communicating and making you forget completely that it's a saloon.

While I was looking to buy, I spoke to a very kind gentleman that said the E500 he had was better than his 5-year old Aston. He was fully aware of how that sounded, doubtful and absurd when he told me, but after a couple of thousand miles in the car in Europe I can only imagine that he was absolutely right. I'm so happy I didn't get a Continental GT instead.....

epic post Sir! You describe the soul of the car perfectly.

drew

 

[Taxi Driver]

Re: FS: 1995 E500 Limited 6.0 AMG, Black/Black/Red, 84kkm (Japan auction)

In short, You have a 500E wich is good and sound, keep it that way and surprise your self, every now and then with this "time capsul" enjoy driving and
ownership. You happen to be the lucky owner of the 6 liter variant, enjoy driving and ownership even more so, youre in heaven.

 

[Klink]

Re: FS: 1995 E500 Limited 6.0 AMG, Black/Black/Red, 84kkm (Japan auction)

If I ever drive an E60, i'll have to have the money to buy it, because I don't want anything sexier to take away from the unconditional love I have for my E500.

In the UK, we have to keep below 90mph pretty much all the time. Some motorways have less surveillance than others, same with the A-roads, but the time is coming where we'll be continually watched by cameras . As I get older, I'm appreciating more and more driving slowly, especially in the 500. A couple of weeks ago I was driving back from my kid's school - a good 2.5 hours in the car, and I purposely drove slowly - on or around 60mph all the way. I exulted in the new feel of the car. The smoothness, and the response from a little push on the accelerator and the feel of reeling it back in... (it's the only car i've ever really enjoyed driving in my stockinged feet)

Having said that - the UK didn't sign a European treaty of some kind that meant that speeding offenders could be chased back to their homes in England, so basically if you're not caught by a real policeman with a radar gun in Europe, you'll be ok.. If you are caught however, you can expect to be punished.

So without abusing the privilege (because who wants Johnny Foreigner speeding through your country at 140mph?) I did have several opportunities to drive the car fast in Europe on my trip from the UK to Italy last Christmas. Whereas in England you have to take your foot off the pedal at 100mph or you risk losing your licence, in France and Italy there's the freedom, occasionally, to do that.

The car completely changes character above 100mph. It becomes tighter and the engine snarls and you feel/hear another side to the car completely. From 100 to 120/130 and very occasionally beyond (I had a stint in Germany on the way back) it's like the car is completely made for those speeds. It hunkers down, like 911s, you lose very little of the quietness or comfort of course, but what you feel through the wheel and the suspension is magical, it was sublime, sporty, requiring full concentration like any brilliant sports car, communicating and making you forget completely that it's a saloon.

While I was looking to buy, I spoke to a very kind gentleman that said the E500 he had was better than his 5-year old Aston. He was fully aware of how that sounded, doubtful and absurd when he told me, but after a couple of thousand miles in the car in Europe I can only imagine that he was absolutely right. I'm so happy I didn't get a Continental GT instead.....

That's it. You have fully captured the appeal.

 

[Eno]

Re: FS: 1995 E500 Limited 6.0 AMG, Black/Black/Red, 84kkm (Japan auction)

If I ever drive an E60, i'll have to have the money to buy it, because I don't want anything sexier to take away from the unconditional love I have for my E500.

In the UK, we have to keep below 90mph pretty much all the time. Some motorways have less surveillance than others, same with the A-roads, but the time is coming where we'll be continually watched by cameras . As I get older, I'm appreciating more and more driving slowly, especially in the 500. A couple of weeks ago I was driving back from my kid's school - a good 2.5 hours in the car, and I purposely drove slowly - on or around 60mph all the way. I exulted in the new feel of the car. The smoothness, and the response from a little push on the accelerator and the feel of reeling it back in... (it's the only car i've ever really enjoyed driving in my stockinged feet)

Having said that - the UK didn't sign a European treaty of some kind that meant that speeding offenders could be chased back to their homes in England, so basically if you're not caught by a real policeman with a radar gun in Europe, you'll be ok.. If you are caught however, you can expect to be punished.

So without abusing the privilege (because who wants Johnny Foreigner speeding through your country at 140mph?) I did have several opportunities to drive the car fast in Europe on my trip from the UK to Italy last Christmas. Whereas in England you have to take your foot off the pedal at 100mph or you risk losing your licence, in France and Italy there's the freedom, occasionally, to do that.

The car completely changes character above 100mph. It becomes tighter and the engine snarls and you feel/hear another side to the car completely. From 100 to 120/130 and very occasionally beyond (I had a stint in Germany on the way back) it's like the car is completely made for those speeds. It hunkers down, like 911s, you lose very little of the quietness or comfort of course, but what you feel through the wheel and the suspension is magical, it was sublime, sporty, requiring full concentration like any brilliant sports car, communicating and making you forget completely that it's a saloon.

While I was looking to buy, I spoke to a very kind gentleman that said the E500 he had was better than his 5-year old Aston. He was fully aware of how that sounded, doubtful and absurd when he told me, but after a couple of thousand miles in the car in Europe I can only imagine that he was absolutely right. I'm so happy I didn't get a Continental GT instead.....

Is it because the english language is your mother tongue or you have skills in writing that you described it so well?! [emoji3][emoji106]




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[stickyvicky]

Re: FS: 1995 E500 Limited 6.0 AMG, Black/Black/Red, 84kkm (Japan auction)

Sold for 72500 euro


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[Taxi Driver]

Re: FS: 1995 E500 Limited 6.0 AMG, Black/Black/Red, 84kkm (Japan auction)

Should we mention, DO NOT TRY a 6liter for size, IF youre not able to buy it or walk over some dead bodies to get it.........
seriously, you never forget your first 6 liter drive.

 

[IanAtkins]

exactly Taxi Driver, I knew it... and thanks Eno - it's not my writing skills, it's a divine gift I have absorbed through the seat of my pants from being in the E500..

 

[IanAtkins]

thanks everybody - we are like a monastic order that makes outstanding beer - nobody outside the walls knows what's really going on!

 

[jhodg5ck]

once I'll 6.4L is done I'll report back w/ news...

she's going to be errr....a little, or maybe a LOT on the angry side. I'll start a thread here shortly...

Jono

 

[r44raven]

thanks everybody - we are like a monastic order that makes outstanding beer - nobody outside the walls knows what's really going on!

Yeeeh - that's right! And let's keep the uninitiated out!

 

[Allgonquin]

Nice writing sir. From time to time I "simulate" a high speed run by staying in 3rd gear at ~50-60 MPH to keep the revs up and do a burst up to 80 or something. I just love the engine/exhaust snarl and the punch the car has above 3000 rpm. I first experienced a Benz when I had the thrill of being able to borrow a 450 SEL in England in 1980 for a week or so. I was 25 at the time, and I have a picture I took with one hand on the wheel and one hand holding my Canon AE1, with the speedo in view looking out the windshield at about 127 MPH or so. I had the car flat out on some motorway for several miles at one point, it did an indicated 132....

Only other time I did that was in roughly 1983 or so, in my 1974 XJ12L, on the elevated I10 causeway west of New Orleans, when a 944 came up from behind at high speed and I took it as a challenge. We paced each other for 10 minutes or so before I chickened out when the road went back to ground level and there was more chance of the local gendarmes being on the road. I think we held about 115 or so.

And yes, now that I am rather more mature, I know that these were stupid things to do on public roads.

 

[IanAtkins]

what's said in the monastery stays in the monastery... apparently Claude Lelouche was arrested as soon as he admitted that it was he at the wheel for the short film "C'etait un rendez-vous"....

 

[weide1]

https://www.facebook.com/BawariaRacingPower/posts/1302490406466520

and didn't we also have this one?

https://www.facebook.com/BawariaRacingPower/posts/1303209213061306

 

[195910]

Note the oil pressure guage reading

 

[gsxr]

Note the oil pressure guage reading

LOL. And the tach too. If the engine was not running, why would the gauges be on without the warning lights on...?

 

[195910]

LOL. And the tach too. If the engine was not running, why would the gauges be on without the warning lights on...?

The airbag light is not lit, and the fuel and temp gauges are operating.. so its not position 1 nor position 2 as non of the warning lights are on!

Either all the warning lights are dead plus the 3 gauges are "stuck"...OR..the tachometer is dead and the oil pressure is that bad!

 

[JAB12]

During my W124 500 research I exchanged with the selling dealer in Germany and car has AMG documentation referring to the engine swap for the 6.0L AMG but no mention of all the other AMG components that come with the 957 package. Code 958 is present on VIN options and Color combo is impressive but seller could not produce additional information beyond the AMG engine swap and quite frankly the asking price IMHO is not realistic. I know probably less than anyone on this forum about these cars but noticed this one has not been discussed yet.

Wondering what the more experienced collective here can provide as well as if anyone else has genuine interest in this example they can have access to it and I can provide all the information that was afforded to me as well as direct seller contacts.

VIN is WDB1240361C177837

More information extracted from the European for sale Ad:

• AVAILABILITYIN STOCK
• OFFER NUMBER17G0360
• COLORSAPPHIRE BLACK MICA
• UPHOLSTERYLEATHER BLACK / RED
• ENGINEPETROL, 5956 CCM, 280 KW (381 HP)
• TRANSMISSIONAUTOMATIC
• EMISSION CLASSEURO 2
• CONSUMPTION COMBINED12.6 L / 100 KM *
• CONSUMPTION URBAN18.2 L / 100 KM *
• CONSUMPTION EXTRA-URBAN11.0 L / 100 KM *
• CO2 EMISSIONS COMBINED350G / KM *
• CO2 EFFICIENCY CLASSG*
• 
• NUMBER OF OWNERS2ND
• INITIAL REGISTRATION02/1995
• MILEAGE84,600 KM
• NUMBER OF SEATS4TH

NET: € 167,226.89
19% VAT € 31,773.11
LARGE: € 199,000.00

• 009U special paint - sapphire black
• 249 Inside and Outside Mirror Automatic Dimming
• 305 Illuminated buckle holder
• 412 sunroof electric steel SHD
• 441 adjustable steering column
• 540 Roller Blind, Electric, for Rear window
• 551 Anti-Theft / Anti-Break-in Warning System
• 570 folding armrest at the front
• 592 Insulating glass with windshield band filter and rear window laminated glass
• 620 Cat
• 658 EVO-DIsign light metal reader
• 682 Fire Extinguisher
• 732 wood finish black birdseye maple
• 873 heated front seats
• 882 Interior Safeguard
• 884 Trunk lid additional locking mechanism
• 885 locking system with remote control and immobilizer
• 958 special model LIMITED
• Re-import from Japan

Offer is open. Subject to changes, errors and prior sale.
All statements without guarantee.
We speak German, English, Russian.
Sales net / export possible.
Viewing and test drive only after prior agreement.

 

[ace10]

2017 thread for this car

FOR SALE - 1995 E500 Limited 6.0 AMG, Sapphire Black/Black/Red, 84kkm, €0.167M (Somewhere in Germany) | Cars for Sale - 500E / E500 ONLY

ADMIN EDIT: For sale again May 2020, see post #24 below. Thread title updated. VIN = WDB1240361C177837 just saw this [Japan auction] looks interesting

www.500eboard.co

 

[JAB12]

Rookie mistake, I input the VIN on the search tool and seems the vehicle was discussed 3 years ago while it was under auction in Japan. Interesting it has only traveled less than 600 miles allegedly since that time.

Referenced post is here: SOLD - SOLD: 1995 E500 Limited 6.0 AMG, Black/Black/Red, 84kkm (Japan auction) | Cars for Sale - 500E / E500 ONLY

Thoughts?

 

[JAB12]

2017 thread for this car

FOR SALE - 1995 E500 Limited 6.0 AMG, Sapphire Black/Black/Red, 84kkm, €0.167M (Somewhere in Germany) | Cars for Sale - 500E / E500 ONLY

ADMIN EDIT: For sale again May 2020, see post #24 below. Thread title updated. VIN = WDB1240361C177837 just saw this [Japan auction] looks interesting

www.500eboard.co

Yes thank you just realized. Guess I blew my first started thread. Will have to redeem myself with second thread start in the future. Still would like to hear thoughts on this example. Thank you.

 

[msq]

Also, I am fairly certain this car only had the engine done i.e. not full AMG conversion.

 

[JAB12]

The AMG documents that were shared only speak of the engine and other minor components. No mention of suspension nor transmission work.

 

[JAB12]

I guess the threads were combined. The attached document in German was shared with me during the inquiry period.

 

[JAB12]

@xfadmin and @gerryvz I have about 80+ photos of this car that were sent to me by the current selling dealer in Germany when I was inquiring about this car at the beginning of the year. I would like to post them here for further documentation of this example but not sure how to do that outside of posting one by one which is tedious. Is there somewhere, or someone I can send a link, email them or whatsapp so they can be posted? PM me on that if preferred. Thank you.

 

[gsxr]

If you click the button "Attach files", it will let you select all 80+ to upload at once. Not sure how easy this is on a mobular device though; Gerry is the expert in that arena.

 

[JAB12]

Yes, to be specific, the photos are on my phone as they were received through Whatsapp.

 

[gerryvz]

The same button works perfectly on a phone. You just have to tap (check off) each photo that you want to add to the upload. It is also good if you adjust the size to "large" rather than full size, to save space as the full size (multi-MB) photos are not needed and too large. This is a single setting for all of the photos. After you select them on your phone's photo album, you adjust the size, then hit the "add" button and they will upload. Then you save the post.

 

[JAB12]

Phone keeps crashing when I try it. Will just revisit another time.

 

[gerryvz]

I know it works. I upload photos all the time, including two for-sale ads that I just posted earlier this afternoon (albeit with 3-5 photos each). This is on an iphone, but I know it works on an ipad and android as well.

 

[JAB12]

Yes, I have used it before but for some reason my phone is crashing now when I attempt to attach the photos. I'll try again some other time.

 

[kegmankipp]

thanks everybody - we are like a monastic order that makes outstanding beer - nobody outside the walls knows what's really going on!

Prost!

 

[JAB12]

Photos here:

 

[JAB12]

Added photos:

 

[JAB12]

End Photos:

 

[gerryvz]

No punch list to go with the photos?

 

[JAB12]

No punch list to go with the photos?

Go ahead by all means. The dealer fell off the map citing Covid after he sent me the photos and the amg conversion letter. I have not had any further exchanges with then since but the car is still there for sale. At least it doesn’t say one of 12 on the Ad.

 

[JAB12]

They should just say 1 of 500 plus a 6.0 AMG Engine.

 

[500AMM]

Go ahead by all means. The dealer fell off the map citing Covid after he sent me the photos and the amg conversion letter. I have not had any further exchanges with then since but the car is still there for sale. At least it doesn’t say one of 12 on the Ad.

 

[gsxr]

They should just say 1 of 500 plus a 6.0 AMG Engine.

LOL. Make that 1 of 900+. The Limited was nearly 10% of total 036 production!!

 

[JAB12]

LOL. Make that 1 of 900+. The Limited was nearly 10% of total 036 production!!

Going by all the recent historical and marketing videos that say the Limited were 500 units. Regardless, this dealer is 'optimistic' at this car being Euro $199K inc VAT or $167K net. I asked the most basic of questions like if the car was converted as new or after delivery and if it was only the engine or the other amg components as well and he could not answer them so that was disappointing. He did share the registration and the car is registered in his name but other than that no further information was provided. At half the asking price it can be considered IMHO.

 

[gsxr]

Going by all the recent historical and marketing videos that say the Limited were 500 units.

Totally agree, all the marketing stuff said 500 units. It was just a few short years ago that enterprising folks datamined the EPC to pull all 10.4k VIN's and option codes, when it was discovered 951 VIN's have code 958. (!!!)

Details here: https://www.500eboard.co/forums/wiki/?title=500E-E500-Production-Data

 

[Jimbo]

Was that you Dave !? Pretty cool to have every single VIN.

I'm sure the 'only 500' made for great sales/get yours now before they are gone chat...so much so that they obliged orders after the first 500, riding that wave...nice.

 

[JAB12]

Totally agree, all the marketing stuff said 500 units. It was just a few short years ago that enterprising folks datamined the EPC to pull all 10.4k VIN's and option codes, when it was discovered 951 VIN's have code 958. (!!!)

Details here: https://www.500eboard.co/forums/wiki/?title=500E-E500-Production-Data

That's a gem of information, thank you @gsxr. One of 148 ain't too shabby either.