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Another AMG "Hammer"

Seller claims it has the DOHC 4-cam motor, but the photos are not clear. Does that look like the 32-valve to you? Doesn't to me... might be a 5.6 as well (hard to prove displacement).

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Does anyone remember a "Hammer" coupe being offered a couple of years ago, same colour, with that same grey diamond suede insert pattern? It seemed to have a mysterious space between the grille and front bumper that raised suspiciond of damage. I think the guy was asking $35-40K.

Could this be the same car, with different wheels??
 
The seats and door panels look acceptable, but covering the wood is not to my tastes. Sacrilegious almost. :-/
 
Cosmetics aside, the SOHC motor deflates the car substantially. If it's not DOHC, it ain't a Hammer...

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All 5.6 motors that I've seen (and I believe some 5.0s too) had black valve covers. 450SEL 6.9 M100 motors also had black valve covers from the factory.

That photo is definitely a SOHC M117.

Cheers,
Gerry
 
yup, the 5.6's all had black covers, but do did the 6.0's.. I suggested he drop the pan and look... he called and left a VM, so I'll ring him tmrw and see what's what!

Jonathan
 
What's that black cylindrical thingie sticking up between the air filter housing and the radiator? It's immediately to the left of the blue dip stick handle in Dave's picture above.
 
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What's that black cylindrical thingie sticking up between the air filter housing and the radiator? It's immediately to the left of the blue dip stick handle in Dave's picture above.

That's the plastic cover for the distributor cap. This was standard equipment on all 5.6 liter M117s as well as AMG "Hammer" DOHC motors.

The purpose for this piece was to protect the distributor cap and the coil & spark plug wire leads from weather, moisture, and such.

You can clearly see this cover on the initial photo from my 560SEC top-end rebuild thread here (viewtopic.php?f=46&t=626)

(or in the photo below, from this thread).

Cheers,
Gerry

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Thanks Gerry! The m117 has only one distributor cap, while the m119 has two. Sorry to take this off topic - are two better than one? :)
 
Yes, the M117 has a single, huge distributor cap and rotor. They work well. Caps seem to last quite a long time with the M117. Here's more information: viewtopic.php?f=46&t=981

The M119's dual-cap/rotor setup was dictated as a standard by and is used with the Bosch LH injection system, which is why it is in the configuration that it is. Essentially, the LH-based M119 was one of the very last MB motors to even use a "real" cap and rotor ... if I remember correctly, most if not all MB motors put into service since just use straight coil packs and the ignition and engine management system is much more integrated and computerized.

Cheers,
Gerry
 
Gerry is correct. The late M119 (119.98x) used from 1996-up has coil-on-plug ignition, and no distributors. This is controlled by the newer, more sophisticated ME injection (instead of the older LH). The ME / COP setup is better overall, shame it's not an easy retrofit to a W124.

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The function of the distributor as used in the E500E is merely to send the spark signal that comes from the LH control unit, to the appropriate plug/cylinder.

Based on the inputs of engine RPM and the battery voltage, the pre-programmed ignition maps in the LH unit's ROM memory provide appropriate dwell-angle information as well as the engine timing data maps.

Major inputs to the LH control unit include the TDC sensor (which informs the computer of engine timing); engine RPM (provided by an RPM sensor); and engine load as provided by the MAF (hot-wire mass airflow sensor, which measures the WEIGHT -- not the volume as the M117's KE-Jet system -- of air flowing into the engine).

Output is, as I mentioned above, signals sent at the appropriate time to each coil, which in turn supplies electrons to each engine bank's distributor & four spark plugs.

Cheers,
Gerry
 

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