Attention East Coast Car Owners....

[DRW]

Do ALL east coast cars have some salt corrosion and/or rust evidence? Even if it is slight corrosion I am interested in stories about salt and rust. Is it unavoidable if a car has lived in the East? I would like to hear from east coast owners and I think it is worthwhile to know what folks have done about saltiness and what lies ahead for the future of salty cars.

Regards,
DRW

 

[gsxr]

It's possible for an east coast car to have zero rust, but the car MUST be parked all winter, from when the first salt hits the road, until spring rains (and street sweepers) rinse away all the residue. If the car is driven even occasionally during the winter, there will probably be evidence of corrosion at least somewhere, usually it appears first on the undercarriage fasteners & exhaust.

For the record: I lived in upstate NY for 20 years.

 

[mistermiata]

Here's the only body rust on my 1994. It's on the right front fender, superficial surface rust but through the paint, right where it meets the bumper, apparently a common rust spot on the 124 series....of course there is surface rust on some undercarriage, but nothing significant...spent its whole life in the Northeast, I assume driven in winters, but now removed from winter driving completely for the last 2 years.....

 

[Mikemcnair]

David,

Pleasure talking to you today, please let me know if you got my text. I'd NOT, you MUST see it.

Michael

PS: Brent Morgan Motorcars and I will get you sorted so your investment is well planned! Hell, I call "dibs" on driving it out to you!!! No really, I'm not kidding.....

We will discuss.

-Michael


Sent from my mobile device.

 

[DerFuror]

Do ALL east coast cars have some salt corrosion and/or rust evidence?

NO. My car is spotless.

TIP: Always park your E500E in a garage, don't daily drive your E500E & DON'T drive it at all during the winter (that's what your 4WD truck is for).

Cinco de Mayo is/was a special day for Mexican nationalism...it currently is a commercialized reason to drink lots of Corona beer. To me, Cinco de Mayo (May 5th) is the day that it is safe for me to take any prized vehcle or motorcycle back out on an East Coast street because April showers have finally washed all the crap detrimental to the surface finish & safe operation of these vehicles off the roads.

As many have previously & often stated. A PPI proactively witnessed by you is the best assurance that an East Coast (or any vehicle) is suitable to drop the cash on.

 

[Jimbo]

Do ALL east coast cars have some salt corrosion and/or rust evidence? Regards,
DRW

Answer this question with another question....do all Southern cars have UV radiation damage?

 

[DRW]

... And a good and reasonable question. In my opinion the odds go up with the UV damage in Southern Steates, but California/west coast cars seem to privy to the same issues. However, Winter's in the East are more difficult to avoid. A half dozen drives before all the saltiness is gone, seems to create salt corrosion. FWIW.

 

[Trae]

Hi Jimbo,
Got the posters today, and yes the UV gets worse the lower one descends in latitude. It becomes critical to keep it garaged/covered.
But, having lived in Pittsburgh, Philly, Boston, New York and DC, it is far easier to keep them covered than to keep that darned salt off.

 

[szvook]

I have the SoCal's UV affects taken care of - my car is always covered; at home, at work and when I park outside for any longer than 30 minutes...race tracks aside. I don't mind taking no more than 1 or 2 minutes covering my car to keep it away from the sun, well worth it and no need to wash the car too often. I wash my car maybe once a month and it's my DD.

 

[Roma_500E]

I have the SoCal's UV affects taken care of - my car is always covered; at home, at work and when I park outside for any longer than 30 minutes...race tracks aside. I don't mind taking no more than 1 or 2 minutes covering my car to keep it away from the sun, well worth it and no need to wash the car too often. I wash my car maybe once a month and it's my DD.

Steve you deserve a huge respect !

Do you cover it every night ?

P.S. Did you buy cover from dealer ?
I was thinking to get one for the winter but was doing different things on a car during the winter time ...
But now I think I want to get one for daily use. Dealer price was something about 200$

 

[szvook]

Do you cover it every night ?

Yes, unless it rained and I haven't washed the car for a couple of days. My car is always in a garage at home or work, so even if it's dirty for a few days, it's not exposed to the elements.

P.S. Did you buy cover from dealer ?
I was thinking to get one for the winter but was doing different things on a car during the winter time ...
But now I think I want to get one for daily use. Dealer price was something about 200$

I got mine from Performance Products a while ago and I think it was around $180. It's a Noah cover made by Covercraft - http://www.covercraft.com/carcovers/noah.html

 

[Roma_500E]

Yes, unless it rained and I haven't washed the car for a couple of days. My car is always in a garage at home or work, so even if it's dirty for a few days, it's not exposed to the elements.


I got mine from Performance Products a while ago and I think it was around $180. It's a Noah cover made by Covercraft - http://www.covercraft.com/carcovers/noah.html

Really it is an aftermarket one with the MB star ? and the special space for the hood star ? hmmmm....

I am not sure how the official cover looks like and there is no way I can check it before purchasing it a dealer cuz it is special order item .

 

[szvook]

Really it is an aftermarket one with the MB star ? and the special space for the hood star ? hmmmm....

I am not sure how the official cover looks like and there is no way I can check it before purchasing it a dealer cuz it is special order item .

Noah covers are now being sold at dealerships as well. See this thread - http://www.500eboard.com/forums/showthread.php?51-Car-Cover-for-500E&highlight=Noah

 

[Roma_500E]

Noah covers are now being sold at dealerships as well. See this thread - http://www.500eboard.com/forums/showthread.php?51-Car-Cover-for-500E&highlight=Noah

Here you go !! I told them (guys at dealership) that there should be specific for 124036 but they were like "Nope, not really, bla bla bla" . Since regular W124 it is not a proper fit for 124036 and Noah have MB logo (it is really important for me lol) I like Noah.

Steve , would you be so kind and provide me with part number or size ? or direct link for W124 cover (the one you got )?

 

[2phast]

Here you go !! I told them (guys at dealership) that there should be specific for 124036 but they were like "Nope, not really, bla bla bla" . Since regular W124 it is not a proper fit for 124036 and Noah have MB logo (it is really important for me lol) I like Noah.

Steve , would you be so kind and provide me with part number or size ? or direct link for W124 cover (the one you got )?

The regular W124 sedan cover fits the 500e very well.

 

[szvook]

The part number I have is listed in the link above, but that part number corresponds to a W126 chassis - OMB66018. The cover I have seems to cover the car a bit lower than the w124 chassis cover and not as tight, but that is based on other owners experience. I never got an 036 specific chassis cover to try and it seems one used to be in existence - Q6600016 and Q6600039, but Q6600016 seems to be NLA. My car cover has as snug feel over the car without being too tight or loose. The W124 cover might have a tighter feel while on the car, but I also was looking to cover the car as low as possible and my current cover does that quite well.

You might consider this part number as well, since it seemed to work for an 036 - OMB66003. It also has the star hood, the star over the grill and Mercedes-Benz embroidered on the back.

 

[Roma_500E]

The regular W124 sedan cover fits the 500e very well.

Do you have pics of that ?

I like Steve's option cuz it is easier to put it on and off. Since I am going to use it pretty often I like that. W124 cover might be good for long time use such as for the whole winter not for the everyday use.

The part number I have is listed in the link above, but that part number corresponds to a W126 chassis - OMB66018. The cover I have seems to cover the car a bit lower than the w124 chassis cover and not as tight, but that is based on other owners experience. I never got an 036 specific chassis cover to try and it seems one used to be in existence - Q6600016 and Q6600039, but Q6600016 seems to be NLA. My car cover has as snug feel over the car without being too tight or loose. The W124 cover might have a tighter feel while on the car, but I also was looking to cover the car as low as possible and my current cover does that quite well.

You might consider this part number as well, since it seemed to work for an 036 - OMB66003. It also has the star hood, the star over the grill and Mercedes-Benz embroidered on the back.

Steve I am totally confused .

I checked the covercraft website for W126 chassis and gave me different part numbers ... I think yours is official MB cover but somehow was sold through the covercraft website. I do not how to find it on the website ? I want exactly like you have .. :-?

Should I try OMB66018 part number at MB dealer ? You got W126 cover and fits right just fine ... is it for SEL model ? or SE ?

OMB66003 what is this one goes for ? 124 ?

 

[Trae]

I have covers from Coverking.

 

[TerryA]

I got mine from Performance Products a while ago and I think it was around $180. It's a Noah cover made by Covercraft - http://www.covercraft.com/carcovers/noah.html

Guys,

FYI, Eckler's MBZ Parts latest 2013 paper catalog on page 309 claims to have "Mercedes Benz Genuine Car Covers".

I believe Eckler's bought out Performance Products.

EcklersMBZparts.com

 

[gsxr]

Folks... the 036-specific OE cover is NLA from Mercedes. You can get the standard W124 sedan cover from the dealer if desired, it fits ok, just a bit snug. I am using the standard 124 covers with zero problems.

You MIGHT find an 036-specific aftermarket cover, but that will take some research. I suspect most aftermarket covers will be standard 124, not 036-specific. If anyone proves otherwise, please let us know.

 

[Trae]

Coverking sells .036 specific. My old 400E cover was more narrow than the 500E covers.

 

[szvook]

I checked the covercraft website for W126 chassis and gave me different part numbers ... I think yours is official MB cover but somehow was sold through the covercraft website. I do not how to find it on the website ? I want exactly like you have .. :-?

Should I try OMB66018 part number at MB dealer ? You got W126 cover and fits right just fine ... is it for SEL model ? or SE ?

OMB66003 what is this one goes for ? 124 ?

Ok, a few clarifications are in order. The W126 chassis reference was made on the board after I posted the part number I got, not sure who looked up the part number and came up with the W126 reference (my $ is on Dave). I never inquired into which W126 model it was for.

In the "Car Cover for 500E" thread, Sheward mentioned that he had the cover with the OMB66003 part number and that was a good fit, but tight on the fenders. That might also be a w124 cover and Sheward felt that is was 036 specific. I guess we would need to see some additional covers on cars to get a visual example.

If you are dead set on the same cover I have, run the part number I provided by Covercraft and see what they come up with. If they have that cover in stock, just buy it from them or find out if they have a distributor who carries that cover. You can try the stealership as well and see what they have for any of the part numbers listed in this thread or the Car Cover for 500E thread.

It seems you have a few options, from the replies on this thread, so see what's best for you. Since potentially an 036 cover might not be available, a regular w124 might be your only option, if the w126 chassis cover is also NLA.

 

[Roma_500E]

Thanx to all replies, will work on that and see what the dealer offers. One of the good things about dealer is that you can get parts very quick

 

[szvook]

One of the good things about dealer is that you can get parts very quick

I'd be curious to find what the stealership has on file for a few of the part numbers listed, that is if you are willing to run a few numbers by the stealership.



OMB66003
OMB66018
Q6600016
Q6600039

 

[Roma_500E]

I'd be curious to find what the stealership has on file for a few of the part numbers listed, that is if you are willing to run a few numbers by the stealership.



OMB66003
OMB66018
Q6600016
Q6600039

Ok , I got them all and I will run them through the dealer by the end of the week. I ll keep you in the loop guys.



P.S. This year we have so nasty weather here in MN, for last three weeks there was NO even a single sunny day. Raining pretty much everyday so not excited to drive MBZs. We live like in a London

 

[szvook]

Roma, it's time you moved to SoCal. Driving in the rain can be fun, I always enjoy how the car feels and handles, plus I like the movement of the single wiper and how it slightly jolts the car. I wouldn't say I look towards driving in the rain, but since my car is my DD, I can't escape it.

 

[Roma_500E]

Roma, it's time you moved to SoCal. Driving in the rain can be fun, I always enjoy how the car feels and handles, plus I like the movement of the single wiper and how it slightly jolts the car. I wouldn't say I look towards driving in the rain, but since my car is my DD, I can't escape it.

It is too hot over there. I spent several years living in Dubai so I better stay here in North part of US.

Hehe, wiper is funny thing on this car, my mom always makes a fun of it.

I love too much my 500E to have it as a DD, there are so many clueless idiots on the road and especially parking lots.

The other thing I get really tired of it after driving the whole day, the probable reason for that is that 500E (needless to say about SL55) always makes me drive fast 100+ and have to pay attention on the road and look for the state troopers and so on. Plus it is kind of rough compare to Lexus. I cannot relax on performance MBZs but at the same time do not like and want to get a regular MB. So my choice is lexus GS for DD, smooth and easy DD. Maybe I should get a Buick, lol.

In addition, very nice thing is that if it is not your DD then each time you take it out on weekends you really appreciate your car. This point made my friend and he is right.

 

[szvook]

500E always makes me drive fast.

I know what you mean and I'm on the streets 90% of the time and still push it when I see openings...forget about freeways - the only thing that slows me down there is traffic, which is always in abundance in SoCal. I always try to find time on Friday or Saturday late at night to take the car out on the freeway to stretch it's legs...I wish I could track the car more offten, but my job does a very good job in keeping my track days to a minimum.

No wonder the 036 was quoted in a magazine as "Like a drug". As far as weekend driving only, I couldn't do it as I very much look towards getting behind the wheel daily to get my 036 fix. Call me an addict...

Btw, Dubai is freakishly hot compared to Los Angeles.

 

[Roma_500E]

I know what you mean and I'm on the streets 90% of the time and still push it when I see openings...forget about freeways - the only thing that slows me down there is traffic, which is always in abundance in SoCal. No wonder the 036 was quoted in a magazine as "Like a drug". As far as weekend driving only, I couldn't do it as I very much look towards getting behind the wheel daily to get my 036 fix. Call me an addict...

Btw, Dubai is freakishly hot compared to Los Angeles.

See, if there is a chance you push. Honestly, I do not like listen to music in 036. I usually enjoy the sound of the accelerating beast. It's really beautiful sound that I usually enjoy in small towns (40mph zone).

Very true, 95% of 036 owners are very addicted to this car. "Addictive", "addiction" is a right word to explain your attitude toward E500E. Honestly, I do not understand people who sell their 036 without any emergency reason.

Whats your temperature in SoCal in summer? winter? I am sure it is not that hot but still should be pretty hot.

Winter in Dubai is not bad at all. In December and January it is super heavy raining and it's high humidity especially in the early mornings. Otherwise it so nice. However, summer kills.

 

[szvook]

I always have music playing, but since my exhaust is fairly loud (just the other day an M3 paid me a complement on the exhaust note and that it was loud) I can enjoy both equally. Since I'm running an X-pipe, I also slightly feel the exhaust pulses through the floor, my favorite part. So with all of that added and with some pumping beats and I have my fix. But late at night on the freeways, I do turn the beats off and drown myself in the 036 symphony, especially at WOT.

L.A. can see 100+F, but that's not too often and depends where you are, the West side is always cooler. Bellow is the average weather for L.A.

 

[Roma_500E]

I always have music playing, but since my exhaust is fairly loud (just the other day an M3 paid me a complement on the exhaust note and that it was loud) I can enjoy both equally. Since I'm running an X-pipe, I also slightly feel the exhaust pulses through the floor, my favorite part. So with all of that added and with some pumping beats and I have my fix. But late at night on the freeways, I do turn the beats off and drown myself in the 036 symphony, especially at WOT.

L.A. can see 100+F, but that's not too often and depends where you are, the West side is always cooler. Bellow is the average weather for L.A.

Yup, late at night it is aspecially nice to listen a symphony created by m119 and exhaust. I remember I drove once S70(S600I) AMG W140 7.0 V12 and felt slight floor vibration that was so cool .

It so cool to talk to person who understands about "symphony of the exhaust" and things like that ...

Hmmm, temperature is not bad at all, previous summer in MN I got 112F many times on my car sensor driving on a freeway.

 

[Jelmer]

I always have music playing, but since my exhaust is fairly loud (just the other day an M3 paid me a complement on the exhaust note and that it was loud) I can enjoy both equally. Since I'm running an X-pipe, I also slightly feel the exhaust pulses through the floor, my favorite part. So with all of that added and with some pumping beats and I have my fix. But late at night on the freeways, I do turn the beats off and drown myself in the 036 symphony, especially at WOT.

Maybe you can share that with us one day? Try to record a movie and upload it to youtube or something, might give us an impression

How does your car sound when cruising? Is it still silent, or more rumbling?

 

[Arrowhead]

I have lived in New York state all my life ( 65 yrs ) and the amount of rust cars develope here is terrible. They salt the roads even if they think it might snow. If the highway Depts have salt in their yards toward the end of the winter they try to spread it rather than save it due to concentrated enviremental reasons.

 

[szvook]

previous summer in MN I got 112F many times on my car sensor driving on a freeway.

Ouch! I've never experienced that type heat in my life. The most I have felt in L.A. was 104F and that was a tad north of L.A. I live on the West side, so I never feel the high heat.

 

[szvook]

Maybe you can share that with us one day? Try to record a movie and upload it to youtube or something, might give us an impression

Unfortunately, I haven't purchased a good camera just yet, but have been planing to get a GoPro Motorsport package. I had a few videos made when I first got my exhaust, but the camera and a phone that were used weren't that good to capture all of the lower notes the exhaust makes. Bellow are two videos from the outside of the car, the first video is with a camera, the second one is with a phone. If you have good low-end headphones or speakers with a sub, you'll hear more of the low-end notes my exhaust makes.

[video=youtube;Hwid2vRMxTc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwid2vRMxTc [/video]

[video=youtube;fuelRJNG9CE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuelRJNG9CE[/video]

How does your car sound when cruising? Is it still silent, or more rumbling?

The car is not silent when crushing, soon as you tap the accelerator, the exhaust comes to live with a nice low-end rumble. Even when I take my foot off the accelerator, the exhaust has a nice drone to it until the car comes to a stop. Sounds like a bloody race car.

 

[Roma_500E]

Ouch! I've never experienced that type heat in my life. The most I have felt in L.A. was 104F and that was a tad north of L.A. I live on the West side, so I never feel the high heat.

Good for you ... Trust me that was awful. In addition it was really high humidity along with 100-115 outside in Northern pat of the US

So, regarding car covers ....

OMB66003

OMB66018

Q6600016

Q6600039 for regular W124

We were not able to run those OMB part numbers, so we ran it by car.

Here is what I got:

1. For 124036 they said there is nothing in a system (does not exist)
2. For regular W124 it is available for $200 (list 250)
3. For W126 short wheel base no longer available, price unknown
4. For W126 long wheel base it is available $200 (list 250) Q-6-60-0042
5. For C126 no longer available price is unknown

So now I am confused if I should go with W124 cover and make my life more complicated with often put on/off the tight cover

or

go with W126 Long which does not sound right

or

just give up and forget about that

 

[szvook]

I don't miss the humidity one bit and I have to admit, after moving the California from the east coast, I got spoiled quite fast.

Try to reach Covercraft directly and maybe run the part numbers by them, they should be able to verify the W126 part number. Maybe someone here with a W124 cover has a photo lying around with their 036 covered as a reference for how tightly it fits.

Just out of curiosity (before you potentially give up on the cover idea) how often would you cover your car, keeping in mind the time of the year?

 

[Roma_500E]

Just out of curiosity (before you potentially give up on the cover idea) how often would you cover your car, keeping in mind the time of the year?

Well if there is a person who does not mind do it everyday (you Steve) I will definitely do the same since I won't be the only nuts

 

[szvook]

Hehe

 

[sheward]

I'll pull mine out in the sunlight and snap a photo today with the cover.

drew

 

[Trae]

NO Drew, not UV rays!!! Wait, at least, until sunset. . .

 

[sheward]

NO Drew, not UV rays!!! Wait, at least, until sunset. . .

...but of course. No direct sunlight! I ran out of time due to the unexpected purchase of yet another set of wheels yesterday. Will post this up today.

drew

 

[sheward]

Pictures of cover.

drew

 

[KarlC]

My cove does not look at tight as the covers you guys are showing, I should take a photo of my cover some day soon and post it.

 

[gsxr]

 

[szvook]

Pictures of cover.

drew

Soooo, it looks like the cover is quite tight (the cover is not flat or flatter on the hood) based on the pics and it doesn't seem to cover the buttom of the spoilers. Are you keeping the car outside with the cover on? If so, do you have to use the cable to keep the cover on?

 

[szvook]

My cove does not look at tight as the covers you guys are showing, I should take a photo of my cover some day soon and post it.

The cover on my car is not tight, it's snug but not tight. If your cover is looser than mine, your cover might be a tad loose for using it outside without using the underbody cable.

 

[sheward]

Soooo, it looks like the cover is quite tight (the cover is not flat or flatter on the hood) based on the pics and it doesn't seem to cover the buttom of the spoilers. Are you keeping the car outside with the cover on? If so, do you have to use the cable to keep the cover on?

The cover is snug. It rarely gets used since the car stays in my garage. No undertie/cable would be necessary due to the elastic at the bottom and the mirror pockets. It's that snug.

drew

 

[szvook]

It rarely gets used since the car stays in my garage.

Understood. Do you cover the car when parked outside?

 

[sheward]

No, I generally don't. Most of my trips in the car are short/local.

drew