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Blower motor regulator

The Ry Guy

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Hello all,

Working on the blower motor in my 93 400E, and I'd like to run my thoughts past you guys to see if my diagnosis is on the right track.

High fan speed does not work when selected on the PBU, nor does the fan go to high when defrost is selected. It only runs in low, so very little air is moving through the vents. Wiggling the ignition switch and slightly turning it back towards off doesn't change anything, plus the I did replace it a few years ago as well.

Fuse F15 on the drivers side shock tower is confirmed good, so I pulled the blower fan and regulator out to test them, but left them connected to the car so I could test the circuits at the regulator. I attached the blower motor to a block of wood and set it on the engine so I could test everything under load, and get to the regulator with the fan running. On the yellow wire at the regulator I"ve got 9.13 volts on high, 4.41 volts on Auto, 1.5 volts on low, and 3.3 volts when in defrost. I took the connector above the brake booster apart and removed just the yellow wire pin to test the motor. Jumped across the blue and black wires at the regulator, and the fan runs in high like it should, moves lots of air. Voltage drop from black wire on regulator to ground is .2 volts and red wire on regulator to F15 fuse is .3 volts. Red wire on regulator to B+ at distribution lug behind the ECU in the cowl is .8 volts. That says to me that the fan itself and the circuit supplying it are good.

Just for grins, I took a variable resistor and supplied the yellow wire to the regulator (de-pinned from the connector above the brake booster) with varying voltage up to 12 volts and the fan did work, but it wasn't blowing anymore than about low. I was able to slow it down even further by turning the pot down.

I repeated the above tests with another used blower motor resistor I got from a junkyard a few years back, and the results were the same. Possible that both of them are bad, it just seems strange.

I'm wanting to call this a bad blower motor regulator, but wanted to run this past you all and see if I missed anything. Also is the regulator that Autohauzaz sells any good? Says it's an ACM OEM, what ever that means.

Thanks in advance!
 
This is textbook symptoms of a failed regulator, and yes, the used one from the junkyard is defective too - bummer. The ACM units had been reboxed OE/Genuine Bosch, hopefully that is still what they are selling today. It's a few bucks cheaper at RME.



Nice job troubelshooting, btw!

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Installed the blower motor speed regulator last night, and the fan works like it should.

The new regulator says Bosch/Behr, Made in France. So its either the real deal or a very good copy. I hope its the former.:)
That's a Genuine Bosch / OEM part. Good to see they aren't NLA (yet). Congrats on the fix!

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Thats a Genuine Bosch / OEM part. Good to see they arent NLA (yet). Congrats on the fix!
Curious ---- do these regulators ever fail 2x or 3x in North American cars' lifetime? Reason I ask is because NA cars have the automatic climate control system and it always seems like I am running the HVAC .... I can never really leave it off. I've replaced my regulator 1x already when I replaced my blower-fan.
 
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Curious ---- do these regulators ever fail 2x or 3x in North American cars lifetime? Reason I ask is because NA cars have the automatic climate control system and it always seems like I am running the HVAC .... I can never really leave it off. Ive replaced my regulator 1x already when I replaced my blower-fan.
2x-3x, probably, yes... assuming lifetime is many decades and/or 250-500kmi. If you have a good regulator in the car and 1 spare on the shelf, you're golden. I wouldn't hoard more unless you have a fleet of 124's. (Note that facelift cars with dust filter use a different regulator that is not interchangeable with early/pre-facelift/non-dustfilter regulator.)
 
Uh oh. I am not sure ACM is relabelling Bosch/BEHR Made-in-France regulators anymore!
I just received this from RME -- 2023-6-10 (on the left). Compare it to the ACM-relabelled-Bosch/Behr I got in 2019 (on the right).

To be fair, it LOOKS the same. Foam is the same ... bent heatsink rod at the bottom is the same, print on the plastic housing is the same .... crimp on the aluminum heatsink to hold the metal post is the same ---- Mercedes logo on the electrical connector is the same ..... but it doesn't have the Bosch/Behr sticker on it.

Still debating if I am going to keep this or return it...

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Edit - more pics of the new unit I just got. Note that the Mercedes logo on the rubber grommet as well, and "BEHR" on the sticker of the box with the "/58" after the 124 part number scratched out.

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Uh oh. I am not sure ACM is relabelling Bosch/BEHR Made-in-France regulators anymore!
They are not. The latest ACM is a reboxed PureGarbage® brand. :rolleyes:

Thankfully, you can identify these by the "A" suffix on the ACM part number. The good ones were 0755.2710, the junk ones are 0755.2710A. The price reflects this. Photos coming soon to W124performance showing both side by side.

Keep in mind that the pre-facelift regulator 124-820-27-10 is still available new from Mercedes dealers, $370 MSRP, and about $250-$300 from your favorite discount dealer. You can still get the good stuff, it will just cost a bit more.

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They are not. The latest ACM is a reboxed PureGarbage® brand. :rolleyes:

Thankfully, you can identify these by the "A" suffix on the ACM part number. The good ones were 0755.2710, the junk ones are 0755.2710A. The price reflects this. Photos coming soon to W124performance showing both side by side.

Keep in mind that the pre-facelift regulator 124-820-27-10 is still available new from Mercedes dealers, $370 MSRP, and about $250-$300 from your favorite discount dealer. You can still get the good stuff, it will just cost a bit more.

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Ohhhh. Please share the pictures of the PureGarbage brand!
 

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