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Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series Division 6 - Yellowstone Dragstrip, Race 2

gsxr

.036 Hoonigan™, E500E Boffin, @DITOG
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As mentioned in this post, the wife and I raced the LODRS (Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series) at Yellowstone Dragstrip this weekend in the Sportsman ET class in our W124's. Race 1 (Thursday/Friday) was, ahem, forgettable. We won't go there. 😣 Qualifying on Saturday went ok, and Race 2 on Sunday went a little better.

First round, my wife lined up against a local lady, and my wife had a reaction time advantage and won the round. My opponent broke on the starting line so I got a "single" run - phew. So far, so good!

Unfortunately, my wife and I were forced to race each other in Round #2 on the ladder. First round (E1, Elimination #1) is "random", whomever you pull up next to in the lanes is who you race. For Round #2 (and the rest of the race) you are on a "ladder", which assigns your opponent based on the results of E1. We don't like having to race each other prior to semi-finals, but it was out of our hands.

Anyway. Our race against each other in E2 was epic. We both had fantastic reaction times (0.027 for her, 0.010 for me) and both our cars ran faster than expected, resulting in a "double breakout" where both cars run quicker than our dials. I thought she wasn't going to catch me so I scrubbed (pumped the brake pedal 1 time while keeping the throttle pinned) - this slows my car by maybe 1 hundredth of a second. One-hundredth seems like nothing, until you see that I had the stripe (finish line) by 0.0032 (thirty-two ten-thousandths of a second), and the margin of victory (MOV) was 0.0142 (bit over 14 thousandths). In this case, for the double breakout, the winner is who is least under their dial-in. I was slightly less below the dial because I hit the brakes near the finish line. Had I not done this, I don't know who would have won E2... it was that close. Great race! Kinda got lucky there.

In E3, I faced a local hot-shoe, a multi-time track champion with a dozen or so Wally trophies on his mantle already. Something weird happened with the weather and both our cars went on "fliers", where we both ran WAY faster than expected. Might have had a tailwind kick up during our run. This resulted in another double breakout, this time I had the stripe by 0.0083 (eight-thousandths and change) and the MOV was 0.0063 (six-thousandths and change). This was a a stupid close race, even stupider close than E2 with my wife. Hot-shoe and I both had embarrassingly slow reaction times, but we'll not talk about that. :whistling2:

In the final round, we were called back to the lanes very quickly. This is a problem for 2 reasons: First, with only ~20 minutes of cool-down time, the engine is hot and the transmission is hot. Second, with everything hot, it's difficult to predict what ET (elapsed time) the car will run. It could run close to the previous run, or it could slow down by multiple hundredths of a second (which is a LOT in bracket racing). Worse yet, the E3 numbers were unexpectedly fast. Would the car run anywhere near the 14.38 that it just did in E3? Or would it run closer to the 14.45-14.46 that it ran in E2? I had a 14.42 on the window, and just before we were called up the sun went behind a cloud and the wind kicked up. I changed to a 14.40 dial (bit quicker) and put on my helmet.

The agonizing over my dial ended up being all for naught, as I went -0.003 red at the starting line (left 3 thousandths of a second before the green light). Sigh. Instant loss, my opponent won the coveted Wally trophy - we only have 3 chances per year to win one of these (LODRS Race 1, Race 2, and one other race during the year). Since I went red, I "played the stripe" near the finish line. I was going to pass him, but I wanted to practice closing the gap so I would only be ahead by a small margin (ideally, 0.01-0.02 seconds). I screwed this up as well and "gave back the stripe", meaning I finished behind him... by 0.0251, which was quite a bit of an error on my part. Had I not done this, I think my car was going to run a 14.44 on my 14.40 dial.

My opponent had a decent 0.055 reaction time, and ran his 0.009 over his dial, meaning he had a total 0.064 "package" (reaction time plus time above dial-in). Since I was an estimated 0.040 off my dial, I needed a 0.024 green light (or better) to win. Bottom line, he had a GOOD run, and since I misjudged the dial, I needed a fabulous reaction time to win. I'm not too upset about going 0.003 red since I needed a killer light to win. Had I been napping at the tree (slow reaction time) I'd have been annoyed that I hadn't pushed harder. In retrospect, 20/20 hindsight, I should have left my 14.42 dial - would have "only" needed a 0.044 reaction time to win, had I not lifted at the end. Better yet, I should have dialed 14.44 (just under my E3 time, basically ignoring the "fast" E3 run)... could have won with an 0.064 reaction time, theoretically.

Oh well. There's always next year! Videos below are linked to the beginning of the Sportsman ET class for each elimination round.


E1: 2:08:30 (Wife & I both won our rounds)

E2: 3:23:00 (Wife & I race each other)

E3: 4:02:25 (I beat the local hot-shoe)

E4: 4:28:00 (the 500E loses the final and the Wally)
 
Sunday's E2 ladder attached. I forgot to get photos of E3 / E4 ladders.

And, a photo of the pits... we were possibly the ONLY cars present which drove to & from the track. Every other race car arrives on a trailer.

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Found the excitement from one of the Big Boy cars, shortly before our first round. Watch the white car in the left lane closely. Never seen anything like this before. Dude was super lucky, he only had to change his shorts. Also good this happened at the starting line, not at the finish at 200mph.

Now, had the white car launched FIRST and U-turned into the other car just as it was about to go full throttle - that would have been BAD!

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Link below should start at 1:35:20 ...
 
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Congratulations to both of you! Mercedes should sponsor you guys. Who else is racing these cars nowadays?

Question: The stats are shown for 1000’ and 1320’. It is my understanding that top fuel distances were reduced from 1/4 mile down to 1000’ after the fatal crash of my boss’s son in New Jersey years ago. So what cars still do the full 1/4 mile? I see top fuel turning in times in the 3.8 second area. Is that for 1000’?
 
Congratulations to both of you! Mercedes should sponsor you guys. Who else is racing these cars nowadays?
Almost nobody bracket races Mercedes that I know of, at least not on a regular basis, for track championships anyway. I'm sure there's a lot of MB's at the local tracks for their occasional test & tunes, but that's not the same as competition. I'm also curious if any other Mercedes have won a Wally trophy, anywhere in the USA - I have a feeling my wife and I might be the only ones? :scratchchin:



Question: The stats are shown for 1000’ and 1320’. It is my understanding that top fuel distances were reduced from 1/4 mile down to 1000’ after the fatal crash of my boss’s son in New Jersey years ago. So what cars still do the full 1/4 mile? I see top fuel turning in times in the 3.8 second area. Is that for 1000’?
Top Fuel and Funny Car classes (the two nitromethane-fueled classes) were reduced from 1320' down to 1000' in mid-2008. This change was made as a safety measure following the fatal crash of Funny Car driver Scott Kalitta. These are the ONLY two classes limited to 1000'. Everything else still runs the full 1/4 mile. So yes, Top Fuel and Funny Cars running 3.8's at 340mph are doing that in only 1000', which is nuts.

Confusing things slightly is that a fair number of smaller tracks around the country are only 1/8 mile total. A lot of the "no prep" street-type races are often all run 1/8 mile only, even on a 1/4-mile track. And, due to insurance concerns or other issues, some tracks limit their fastest class (typically Super Pro, with mostly dragsters) to run 1/8 mile on a 1/4-mile track. We are not a fan of 1/8 mile racing, it's too short. It is easier to dial for 1/8 mile though, as the cars tend to be more consistent in the 1/8. Wind and other variables have more effect on the top half of a 1/4 mile track.


:e500launch: :tree: :e500launch:
 
I’m sure one 500E is rare enough at a strip but two would leave a lasting impression. Too bad someone like the Classic Center wouldn’t sponsor you considering your consistent track record. At least they should give you a better deal on parts!

I wasn’t aware of the 1/8 mile races but looking back on most road races that would probably be more realistic, unless it snowballed into something totally stupid.
 
@gsxr,
Thanks for the show. I really enjoyed the videos.You and the Mrs. did well. Too bad you had to race her though.

One question bugging me (the elephant in the room). The Mrs’s car is over a second faster than yours. What’s up with that? Can you explain why? 92 VS 94? OR Reduced weight in her car?
 
@gsxr,
Thanks for the show. I really enjoyed the videos.You and the Mrs. did well. Too bad you had to race her though.

One question bugging me (the elephant in the room). The Mrs’s car is over a second faster than yours. What’s up with that? Can you explain why? 92 VS 94? OR Reduced weight in her car?
Its not the equipment, its the driver? 😅😅😅😅😅
 
@gsxr,
Thanks for the show. I really enjoyed the videos.You and the Mrs. did well. Too bad you had to race her though.

One question bugging me (the elephant in the room). The Mrs’s car is over a second faster than yours. What’s up with that? Can you explain why? 92 VS 94? OR Reduced weight in her car?
The announcer did say that @gsxr had to race his wife approximately 4.5 million times before... 🤣
 
@gsxr,
Thanks for the show. I really enjoyed the videos.You and the Mrs. did well. Too bad you had to race her though.

One question bugging me (the elephant in the room). The Mrs’s car is over a second faster than yours. What’s up with that? Can you explain why? 92 VS 94? OR Reduced weight in her car?
The white car is a 400E with a 6.0L engine... more power, 200 lbs less weight per the scales at the track. That translates into a BIG difference in ET and trap speed.

YDS is located at 3700' elevation and both cars run quite slow up here. At Firebird in Idaho (2700' elevation), the red car would average 13.9's and the white car around 12.7's. Both cars slowed a half-second (!!) at the higher elevation, and lost a few mph of trap speed as well. Both would be really quick at sea level, maybe 12.2x and 13.6x respectively.


Here's a video of the white car's record pass at Firebird (really good air that day!).

 
For anyone who knows as little as me about Drag Racing i.e. nothing.

I was scratching my head trying to understand how the slower car won when looking at the stats at the end of the race.

Moderator edit: One error in the video below - a perfect reaction time is 0.000 seconds (not 0.400). A lower number is better, i.e. 0.020 is an excellent reaction time, but 0.120 is a relatively slow / poor reaction time.

 
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@gsxr,
Thanks for the explanation on the Renntech. It’s been a long time since I’ve seen your cars race and it’s pretty hard in the videos to see that the one car is not a 500E. It goes to show a $25K to $30K investment in that 6.0 motor really does make a difference.

Plus Mrs GSXR is a pretty hot shoe behind the wheel.:wahoo:
 
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