New Lorinser Lo's? Rotiform VCE 3pc

[ClassicCarsAllDay]

is it just me, of do these wheels look a lot like the lorinser lo's?
beautiful though, with a price to match!

http://www.rotiform.com/products_vce_3pc_convex.html

 

[alabbasi]

Not enough dish, closer to the standard W126 15 hole alloys.

 

[ClassicCarsAllDay]

Just got off the phone with them....since they are 3pc and custom...any offset and lip size and barrel size is possible. For completely custom wheels...the price makes a bit more sense...

 

[bing]

In this high sheen polished finish I think they're NICE!!!

 

[diaconovic]

I have a soft spot for the 1 piece VCE , i d like some 9.5 x 18 front and 10.5 wide Rear , if i can sell my Neez then i'll go that route .

 

[KarlC]

I have a soft spot for the 1 piece VCE , i d like some 9.5 x 18 front and 10.5 wide Rear , if i can sell my Neez then i'll go that route .

I like the look of the 1 piece better also.

ESM makes this look but only up to 17"

ESM-001 http://esmwheels.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=59_64

 

[modzona]

What about the HRE 935?
To me they look abit more like the LO's compared to the VCE from Rotiform.

 

[500AMM]

I have a soft spot for the 1 piece VCE , i d like some 9.5 x 18 front and 10.5 wide Rear , if i can sell my Neez then i'll go that route .

Those Rotiform VCE on that Audi was gorgeous

Hmmm...that made me think now, since I likely have to part with my 18" MAE.

Any info on how the VCE score on weight?

-a-

 

[KarlC]

The Rotiform VCE 3pc is part of their Race Collection so they should be really light, see the below Rotiform SJC wheel in thier Race Collection at 17x8.5 = under 14lbs.

The Rotiform SJC.

This set is going out for finishing tomorrow. This is a set of 17x8.5 and 17x9.5 for a mk4 .:R32.

17x8.5 = under 14lbs.

Our race collection is available in 13" - 20" diameters in 7" - 13" widths in any offset and any finish you require. :alright

Contact us at 714-372-3622 or info@rotiform.com for pricing :cool

 

[gsxr]

I have a hard time believing 14 lbs... but they are probably under 20 lbs, which is still VERY light for any 17x8.5 wheel. Most OE MB and AMG wheels that size are 24-26 lbs. RENNtech Monolites are in the 18-20 lb range.

A high-accuracy scale is needed to get precise weights, a digital refrigerant scale is usually good within 1% or better. The analog "bathroom" scales are notoriously inaccurate, especially at low weights.

 

[KarlC]

I have a hard time believing 14 lbs... but they are probably under 20 lbs, which is still VERY light for any 17x8.5 wheel. Most OE MB and AMG wheels that size are 24-26 lbs. RENNtech Monolites are in the 18-20 lb range.

A high-accuracy scale is needed to get precise weights, a digital refrigerant scale is usually good within 1% or better. The analog "bathroom" scales are notoriously inaccurate, especially at low weights.

Well .......

Email me what size and finish you're wanting - brian@rotiform.com

Here's a picture of a 17x9 on Eurosport's digital shipping scale.

 

[gsxr]

If that's accurate... I'm seriously impressed. I've never seen a 17x8.5 wheel that light. Are all the wheel bolts in place? It looks like the wheels on the scales are barrels & centers but no bolts. Still, that wouldn't increase weight much.

Odd their website doesn't mention the SJC's over 16" diameter:
http://www.rotiform.com/products_sjc_race.html

Available in diameters from 13" - 16" with pricing starting at $700 per wheel.

$2800/set (minimum) is a bit spendy but if you have the coin, I sure like the weights. Wonder how they hold up to potholes in the real world.

 

[KarlC]

If that's accurate... I'm seriously impressed. I've never seen a 17x8.5 wheel that light. Are all the wheel bolts in place? It looks like the wheels on the scales are barrels & centers but no bolts. Still, that wouldn't increase weight much.

Odd their website doesn't mention the SJC's over 16" diameter:
http://www.rotiform.com/products_sjc_race.html

Available in diameters from 13" - 16" with pricing starting at $700 per wheel.

$2800/set (minimum) is a bit spendy but if you have the coin, I sure like the weights. Wonder how they hold up to potholes in the real world.

Dave I did not notice that the wheel bolts where not in place, good catch.

Note that the one on the digital scale is a 17x9" at 14.6 lbs

 

[gsxr]

Maybe we can get Vookster to try out a set of SJC's for his race rubbers!

 

[gerryvz]

Vookster .... rubbers!

Vookster uses condoms?

 

[KarlC]

Maybe we can get Vookster to try out a set of SJC's for his race rubbers!

I cant believe that he does not have these already, he must not check this board much ?
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[szvook]

Vookster uses condoms?

Since the girly is in Europe for the next two weeks...she won't hear this - no condoms allowed, per her rules.

 

[szvook]

he must not check this board much ?

Mondays are tough for me, too many early meetings to attend. Some of us have to work on Mondays. :wink:

 

[szvook]

The VCE mesh wheels do look nice. I "could" volunteer to try them, but they would have to be close to my HRE's offset, otherwise I would need a new alignment. My HRE front wheels (17x8.5) weigh 16.5 lbs, so the VCE's would have to be quite strong at 14.6 lbs...I wonder what is their load rating, being a race wheel.

I was planing on going with HRE again for track dedicated wheels, but they do not have any track wheels in 17" sizes, so I have decided to get a set of track wheels from Forgeline and the mesh design is one of the two designs I'm considering. Both of the Frgeline wheels have a load rating over 1900lbs.

 

[500AMM]

The VCE mesh wheels do look nice. I "could" volunteer to try them, but they would have to be close to my HRE's offset, otherwise I would need a new alignment. My HRE front wheels (17x8.5) weigh 16.5 lbs, so the VCE's would have to be quite strong at 14.6 lbs...I wonder what is their load rating, being a race wheel.

I was planing on going with HRE again for track dedicated wheels, but they do not have any track wheels in 17" sizes, so I have decided to get a set of track wheels from Forgeline and the mesh design is one of the two designs I'm considering. Both of the Forgeline wheels have a load rating over 1900lbs.

Exactly, good point Steve! This is my worries about super-light-weight wheels. The strength/weight ratio has to be compensated with a better materiel composition - and the more delicate the alloy is, the more challenging production techniques, also pushing the cost dramatically upwards. Once I was a guest mechanic for a weekend in a BMW "modified street class" team, and after 3-4 days training and racing we scrapped 4 off the 19" center bolt mag wheels due to growing cracks. Spendy fun.

Nice warranties from the wheel producer doesn't help much if a wheel collapses and you flip the car. So be aware of the load rating guys, the 036 is a bit beefy at front.

 

[500AMM]

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I couldn't resist doing a simple cut & paste, that DTM-appearance came out quite well.

 

[KarlC]

These also remind me of the Carlsson 1/12 seen here ..... http://www.500eboard.com/forums/showthread.php?263-Carlsson-CR-1-12

 

[500AMM]

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It seems to be some alternatives around for this specific wheel style - Rotiform, HRE and Carlsson. Maybe other brands too, but I guess both Rotiform and HRE qualifies best to be on the "lightweight/strength" list.

I grabbed that Email address Karl posted in post #11 and requested on the following sizes of the VCE:

18” x 10” and 18” x 11” forged monoblock, convex
19” x 10” and 19” x 11” forged 3-piece, convex
(ET 20 on all)

Here is the reply:
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Hi Arnt,

We can definatley get it a bit lighter with a monoblock. Low 20lbs for monoblock and mid 20s for 3 piece. You'd be looking at about $4,250 for either set custom built to your specs.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Thanks,
-Brian
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I don't say I'll go for those dimensions I requested on, it was just to get an idea of a bigger size....and probably a max size for the 036, of that particular wheel type. Despite he didn't give exact weights, it means that any smaller sizes will be lighter.

 

[500AMM]

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FYI, additional info from Brian Henderson at Rotiform;

"The UK stockist for the "urop" sales only deals with the mass produced cast wheels. All forged wheel orders are handled through the headquarters in the US."




-a-