Stern Garage Supercharger teaser

[duuder]

Its got a paddle shifter on this speed run and it chirped in 3rd gear

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[gsxr]

Looks like roughly 10 seconds (maybe less) from 20-->100mph.

If so (very hard to tell from that video), this would put the performance as better than any 6.0L normally-aspirated M119, and possibly quicker than a W211 E63 as well.

 

[500AMM]

@500AMM,

Arnt, It’s been a long time since I’ve seen your SuperMerc 6.0 Is it possible to post some updated pics of your car?

Just Asking

lol

Forgot your request, Terry. The car hasn't been driven but hibernating for a loooong time, but next year I'll finally do the custom clarification and technical approval for registration. The car is in the same condition as when imported back in 2007, and it is exactly 15 years today!! since I signed the contract in Zürich and drove it 1700 km back home!
Here is a glimpse of the car some years ago:
Du kan spare mye på å kjøpe deler i utlandet

 

[TimL]

Arnt, so you haven’t driven your car since you brought it to Norway 15 years ago? Is that a matter taxation or legalization in your country? Where did you get the willpower?!?

 

[500AMM]

Arnt, so you haven’t driven your car since you brought it to Norway 15 years ago? Is that a matter taxation or legalization in your country? Where did you get the willpower?!?

It's been randomly driven on trade plates, approx 5000 km since 2007. Back in 2007 the import tax on this car was no less than $25 000 + 25% VAT of the purchase price. Next the supercharging; since it's no factory made supercharger kit for the 036, the Norwegian DVLA had no reference to lean on to issue any approval. This would entail research work and the car probably had to undergo testing at TÜV in Germany to get the needed approval which the Norwegian DVLA would accept. I then settled on a 10 year postponement and focused on renewal & restoration of our house instead.

Today 15 years later, the situation is totally different; A couple of years ago the import rules changed and the limit for veteran/vintage cars was lowered from 30 to 20 years. That means my car already is a veteran and exempt from import tax, only $3-400 in registration fees. The rules for technical approval of modified cars has also changed tremendously. Norway and Switzerland are not members of the European Union, but it is a number of rules & regulations on adaption between EU and non-members for mutual interpretetions to simplify cooperation and trading across the borders. To a certain extent this do also include technical approval of cars. In my particular case the car had an addendum to the Swiss carriage card with approval of all mods including the supercharger kit. Further on does the Norwegian DVLA adopt any Swiss approvals directly. So all worries to no avail and case closed!

@anderzen, excuse me for derailing the topics a bit.

 

[TerryA]

Forgot your request, Terry. The car hasn't been driven but hibernating for a loooong time, but next year I'll finally do the custom clarification and technical approval for registration. The car is in the same condition as when imported back in 2007, and it is exactly 15 years today!! since I signed the contract in Zürich and drove it 1700 km back home!
Here is a glimpse of the car some years ago:
Du kan spare mye på å kjøpe deler i utlandet

@500AM, Arnt,

Thanks for the update. Wow! A blacked out 040 500E front shot including the owner.

After checking out your pic in the article, I realized that your post #37 in the sideshots thread must be of your Supermerc since it has the same MAE wheels. I’ll bet it really looks good in person After 15 years in hibernation, I couldn’t stand it. My car sat pretty much for 4 years that was more than enough for me. I can’t wait to see more of your car.

BTW, As a bonus your car pic also revealed the Owner’s Pic. Maybe I’ll spot you on the street in Morepay someday

 

[500AMM]

Thanks Terry! Yes, that sideshot in the other thread is the SuperMerc. It is in very good condition inside, but the outside carries some patina which is visible on that front shot. BTW, that article is from an interview done by BROOM, where I talked about doing private import of spare parts due to the high price level here in Norway.

 

[TerryA]

Thanks Terry! Yes, that sideshot in the other thread is the SuperMerc. It is in very good condition inside, but the outside carries some patina which is visible on that front shot. BTW, that article is from an interview done by BROOM, where I talked about doing private import of spare parts due to the high price level here in Norway.

Arnt, It still looks great!

When I purchased my car in Oct 2004 I had the same patina on the lower front spoiler. I removed it from the car and had it repainted along w/ the headlight wiper delete panels. A month or so later I had clear bra put on it. Voila! No more stone chips in 50K miles.

 

[Benzy Boy]

Is this it?

 

[TerryA]

Wow! 181+ mph that car is
I just wish I could understand them. The car is really stable at high speed. Driver is relaxed while talking and driving (sometimes with no hands on the steering wheel)

 

[gsxr]

I just wish I could understand them.

Terry, turn on closed captioning on the video, then select auto-translate to English. It's not perfect but it lets you understand most of what they are saying.

BTW... most 6L cars with tall enough gears should be able to hit ~180mph or so. Going much beyond this becomes more of an issue with aerodynamics, not power, as Hartmut described with the Hammer development when he was trying to achieve the magical 300kph (186mph) number. The Hammer made enough power (high 300's) but it didn't go faster and hit 300/186 until they did a bunch of aero mods.

 

[TerryA]

Terry, turn on closed captioning on the video, then select auto-translate to English. It's not perfect but it lets you understand most of what they are saying.

@gsxr,
Dave, Lately I just use my I-Phone 13 in lieu of my laptop. I don’t get out the laptop very much anymore. Too lazy I guess.

Can I do that on my I-Phone? I don’t think I’ve ever seen any option.

lol

 

[gsxr]

@gsxr,
Dave, ... Can I do that on my I-Phone? I don’t think I’ve ever seen any option.

I think so. Look for the sprocket/wheel somewhere, tap on that to access settings. Maybe some iPhone users can help?

 

[TerryA]

I think so. Look for the sprocket/wheel somewhere, tap on that to access settings. Maybe some iPhone users can help?

View attachment 176773

Looking at that screenshot. No such luck the “cc” doesn’t even show up on my I-Phone. Only the sprocket wheel. I’ll just have to break out the laptop.

Thanks for trying to help.

 

[Benzy Boy]

If I ever win the lottery I'm not buying an amg gtr, instead I'm getting a 6L supercharged M119 swap plus lots more over the top mods.

 

[500AMM]

Looking at that screenshot. No such luck the “cc” doesn’t even show up on my I-Phone. Only the sprocket wheel. I’ll just have to break out the laptop.

Thanks for trying to help.

Terry, it is there, just tap the screen briefly while the YT film is playing and the CC shows up in the upper right corner.
Screenshot from my iPhone 12 below.

 

[TerryA]

Terry, it is there, just tap the screen briefly while the YT film is playing and the CC shows up in the upper right corner.
Screenshot from my iPhone 12 below.

View attachment 176945

@500AMM,
Sorry Arn’t but the new and improved
I-Phone13 doesn’t have it. The sprocket is at the bottom. No “CC” caption anywhere.

 

[500AMM]

OK, maybe this helps:

 

[TerryA]

OK, maybe this helps:

@500AMM,
Sorry Arn’t no dice. It’s not you it’s me I’m sure. I turned on the subtitles & closed captioning button. It changed the screen a little but still won’t allow me to switch the off button to on.

PS: Maybe it’s because I have not purchased the U-Tube App? I can watch any U-T video I want in English. I have a friend at my old job that’s great at IT I will get ahold of him and have him take a look at my phone.

 

[thebrinksman]

Is this it?

WANT.

 

[phoenix217]

Here are two IRL pictures of the car and a beautiful M119 6.0L supercharged + a picture of the M275 in the W140 from the Stern Garage.
Files were to large to upload here even after compressing.

 

[gsxr]

Resized M119 photos attached below.

 

[Kridre]

Febi engine mounts

 

[Joncf]

Febi engine mounts

There are plenty of high quality Febi parts. In Europe, they’re considered one of the best aftermarket suppliers.

 

[Rouven036]

Unfortunately not...in Europe or many other places the knowledge of the wide spread disease of cheap Chinese re-boxed crap with seemingly German sounding company names is just not as widely understood compared to this platform.

 

[Joncf]

Unfortunately not...in Europe or many other places the knowledge of the wide spread disease of cheap Chinese re-boxed crap with seemingly German sounding company names is just not as widely understood compared to this platform.

I didn’t say ALL of their parts were great, but I’ve heard plenty of British and Germans give positive feedback about the company, some of whom were MB specialty shop owners. One still must do their research about each individual part, but calling the company outright “terrible,” similar to how URO has proved to be, isn’t entirely correct in my opinion. Febi does have their own manufacturing plants, and they do produce some parts in Germany and other European countries in addition to their re-boxed products. Some parts are also made in China, which actually doesn’t always prove to be the “end of the world.” With good quality control and budget, a Chinese product could be just as good or better in comparison to anything else. This usually isn’t the case, but Febi does seem to have very good quality control. I’ve personally used some of their products…and never had any problems with them.

 

[gerryvz]

When there is a choice between aftermarket and OE/OEM parts, it is ALWAYS better to get OE/OEM parts.

Meaning (theoretically speaking here) would I purchase a Febi chain tensioner (made in China) vs. an INA chain tensioner (MB OEM, made in Germany)?

I'd always get the INA tensioner.

If there was nothing else available, I'd consider a Febi part. But it would be last resort, and only after EXHAUSTIVELY searching for NOS parts or other solutions using OEM or MB parts. I would even rather (in most parts situations) use a lightly used MB OE part that is otherwise NLA, rather than using a Chinese-made Febi or URO or Meyle re-boxed part.

Just my two cents.

 

[Rouven036]

Failed febi parts: propshaft flexible disc not even 5k km, belt tensioner, control arm with bushings.
.. 100+1% what gerry said.
Also, many shop owners tell you what suits them and their profit considerations, then quite a number of shop owners or vehicle owners consider a replacement at a exemplary 20-30k km acceptable on classic cars compared to original parts which would last above 100k km. The argument here is that the cars are not driven as much anymore.....

a good car is always as far as possible maintained with original or oem parts. Read also here in the forum how to easily differenciate by the smell of the rubber components if a part is acceptable or suspect to premature failure. I.e the Harbour freight rubber smell.

 

[500AMM]

I didn’t say ALL of their parts were great, but I’ve heard plenty of British and Germans give positive feedback about the company, some of whom were MB specialty shop owners. One still must do their research about each individual part, but calling the company outright “terrible,” similar to how URO has proved to be, isn’t entirely correct in my opinion. Febi does have their own manufacturing plants, and they do produce some parts in Germany and other European countries in addition to their re-boxed products. Some parts are also made in China, which actually doesn’t always prove to be the “end of the world.” With good quality control and budget, a Chinese product could be just as good or better in comparison to anything else. This usually isn’t the case, but Febi does seem to have very good quality control. I’ve personally used some of their products…and never had any problems with them.

In one way I fully agree with that, China can make whatever high level, well proven quality, you just have to ask for it and pay accordingly. But the problem is the next, or first level in the sales chain, the wholesalers. While China offers their cheap garbage, it is applauded by the greedy wholesalers, they eat that camel all day long and spit it out to the retailers. It doesn't matter how good the quality control is - the part won't be any better for that reason. The quality level depends on which requirement is set for a parts production prior to and from the very beginning, which next dictates the final price on it.

Put into an opposite perspective, why don't China grab the opportunity and start making proper replica spare parts as a substitute for the ongong NLA problem driven by the car manufacturers. People would be very happy to pay a decent price for those parts, and the car manufacturers won't have a chance to stop it in whatever court room they bring it up.

 

[500AMM]

...and they should sell and distribute those proper parts directly from China, not via the individual wholesalers in each country. The entire car business has changed and the wholesales thing is outdated - and they have killed it themself by eroding their responsibilites.

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[Rouven036]

That issue is probably the profits to be made and recurring revenues due to sale of crap.

Undoubtfully has China good stuff to offer (i.e. the carbon fiber swaybars for current porsche gt models are made in China...i' m not so happy to see made in China on such a car as a customer but it's certainly good stuff.
Unfortunately "oe or oem quality" is till now not the case with many items of the assortment of the febi-bilstein/meyle/trucktec etc branded stuff.
Lemfõrder was long regarded with original parts with ground off MB part numbers but iirc has been some harbor freight rubbers been also found more recently which was even reported here in the forum (iirc).

Another anecdote, recently a German newcomer company announced that they had expanded their portfolio to remanufacturing 201/124 sls struts. I contacted them based on their ig story and they assured all be done to original spec. I asked and drilled deeper, particularly for the spherical bushing. it turns out they or probably a subcontractor replacing the load carrying spherical bearing with a pu one. On further inquiry and stating that this ain't original spec - I got buffed off that it isn't needed and anyways cars of this age are usually not daylied anymore. So a shorter live span is acceptable as per them.

Anyways what might work for one might not work for the other.