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Used ETA desired

mwaldron

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Hi Guys,

Does anybody have a later date code ETA they would be willing to part with? This is for a daily driver so correct cable length is not important to me. '92 1993 USA model year, old style pancake connector.

TIA,

Mark
 
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You should be able to find one on eBay? I'm sure someone here on the forum has one that they would/could part with.
 
I don't have one, but do you need the early type with the large/pancacke connector, or the late style with the smaller/cylinder connector? The change happened late in 1993 USA model year, only about the last 10% of 1993 USA model year production have the late connector.

W140 ETA's are good donors if you don't mind the extra wire length, just make sure it's from an ASR donor!

:shocking:
 
The change happened late in 1993 USA model year, only about the last 10% of USA production have the late connector.
This statement doesn't make sense to me. If the change-over occurred during the 1993 model year, then how could only the last 10% of US-market cars have the later (cylinder) connector?

Considering that 24.46% of US-imported cars were 1994 models, and I'm assuming some modicum/subset of 1993 model-year US-imported cars used the cylinder connector -- I'd assume that the overall (1994+1993 subset - additive) number would be somewhat over 30%, not the last 10%.

My car is a fairly early 1994 model year car, produced in late calendar year 1993. It has the later (cylinder) connector for the ETA.

Please advise/clarify. :scratchchin: :detective:

Cheers,
Gerry
 
Sorry, I intended to include VIN 979878, it is in front of the CAN not on firewall.

Mark
 
This statement doesn't make sense to me. If the change-over occurred during the 1993 model year, then how could only the last 10% of US-market cars have the later (cylinder) connector?
Sorry - I meant that of the ±600 total 1993 USA model year 500E's, ~90% have the early connector, and ~10% have the late connector. All 1994 USA model year have the late connector. Previous post edited.

Mark, the EPC shows engine number break (early to #007765, late as of #007766) not a chassis break. Your datacard shows the engine should be #7993, so it should use the late connector.

:doh:
 

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He said he had the early "pancake" plug

Late version is known as "clamshell" connector
 
Original post didn't mention that it was 1992/pancake - post was recently edited.

Mark, your VIN is not a 1992... was the chassis number 979878 a typo?

:detective:
 
Mark, the EPC indicates your car should have the late-style connector, as seen in post #6 above.

Any chance you can post a photo of the connector on your car, in front of the CAN box? It's possible the EPC is incorrect on the engine break point but it would be the first I've heard of this for the ETA's.

:matrix:
 
Am I going to hurt anything driving this in limp mode until I find an ETA?


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No, you won't. It will just feel like driving a 123-based 240D...


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Well this is interesting. For chassis #979878, the EPC says engine number is #7993.

And, the EPC says the early ETA was used through engine #7765, late ETA as of engine #7766.

This is the second time I've seen a VIN/chassis break error, on a 124 anyway. The other one I know of is the block drains, except for that error, the new part was used earlier than the EPC claimed - on the ETA break, the new part was used later than claimed. EDIT: Make that at least #3... the VIN break for the .034/.036 monovalve has also proved to be incorrect.

Thanks for posting the photo, it proves the EPC is incorrect (although it would be nice to verify the engine number in the car, for grins).

Klink? Any comments? Any chance of getting MB to fix their screwup?


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Mark, when you do source a replacement ETA... could you please slice open the main wire harness and see if the insulation is cracked & broken? There was another recent thread where a claim was made that all of the 'early' ETA's with large/pancake connectors have good wiring insulation, and when those ETA's fail, it's an internal component failure (potentiometer or something).

:detective:
 
Dave,

A forum member hooked me up with an ETA, when I get them swapped, I will dissect and try to photo document.

Thanks everyone for all of the help!

Mark
 
I am fairly certain that this is a false claim. I have witnessed 400e pancake style connector ETA's with biodegradable wiring in very bad shape. Next time I see one, I will take a pic.
But it might be true that some were made with good wiring.

Mark, when you do source a replacement ETA... could you please slice open the main wire harness and see if the insulation is cracked & broken? There was another recent thread where a claim was made that all of the 'early' ETA's with large/pancake connectors have good wiring insulation, and when those ETA's fail, it's an internal component failure (potentiometer or something).

:detective:
 

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