Where to find body / chassis dimensions (jack points)

[Jlaa]

Does anyone know where to find a document such as this for the E500E? This (below) is a document from the factory service manual showing critical dimensions for the 1996 Porsche 911. I am using it to determine

(a) length between f/r jacking points
(b) width between front jacking points and rear jacking points

The reason why I am looking for this for the E500E is because I wish to order a low rise lift for my hobby vehicles, and the spacer bars I need to order would need to conform to the dimensions between jacking points on my cars.



I looked and looked and looked inside the WIS but I'll be damned if that isn't ultra complex ..... I can't seem to find where such a document resides......
(Yes yes I could just go and measure it with a tape measure, but, I'm trying to be all precise ya'know?)

 

[asultan]

Does anyone know where to find a document such as this for the E500E? This (below) is a document from the factory service manual showing critical dimensions for the 1996 Porsche 911. I am using it to determine

(a) length between f/r jacking points
(b) width between front jacking points and rear jacking points

The reason why I am looking for this for the E500E is because I wish to order a low rise lift for my hobby vehicles, and the spacer bars I need to order would need to conform to the dimensions between jacking points on my cars.

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I looked and looked and looked inside the WIS but I'll be damned if that isn't ultra complex ..... I can't seem to find where such a document resides......
(Yes yes I could just go and measure it with a tape measure, but, I'm trying to be all precise ya'know?)

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Potentially in the printed Chassis and Body Service manual? I just looked at the online version and couldn't find any info outside of alignment info

 

[Kridre]

This is the only thing that I could find online. Nothing about jacking points, maybe they are were not that crucial

 

[Jlaa]

OK putting this here for posterity. I measured these dimensions myself by hanging a small weight from the lift points and marking an "X" on the floor ---- then measuring between the Xs. It was too hard to measure directly as the center resonator was in the way.

 

[Efraim]

This is the only factory doc that I have found regarding to chassis dimensions, but it won´t answer to you question.
https://w124performance.com/service/w124CD2/Program/Chassis/40-0400.pdf

 

[Jlaa]

This is the only factory doc that I have found regarding to chassis dimensions, but it won´t answer to you question.
https://w124performance.com/service/w124CD2/Program/Chassis/40-0400.pdf

I should have known MB would require a hyper complex SPECIAL TOOL for such measurements!

 

[gerryvz]

I have very very comprehensive dimensions and engineering specs for the 500E from the 1991 Technical Data Manual.

Tell me exactly what you need and I will scan and post.

 

[Jlaa]

I have very very comprehensive dimensions and engineering specs for the 500E from the 1991 Technical Data Manual.

Tell me exactly what you need and I will scan and post.

Ohhhhh... Does the Tech Data Manual Have:
1) Distance between the front and rear jack points?
2) Distance between the Front left and Front right jack points?
3) Distance between the Rear left and Rear right jack points?

Thanks!

 

[Draginev]

This is the only thing that I could find online. Nothing about jacking points, maybe they are were not that crucial

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Oh man I wish I had those during the modelling, I guess I took the hardest route. Thanks for these pictures!

 

[gerryvz]

Here are a couple of diagrams:

 

[gsxr]

Here are a couple of diagrams:

Gerry, do those diagrams exist in the USA TDM's? I can't seem to find them. What group number are they under?

 

[Jlaa]

Here are a couple of diagrams:

Wow these are great! I couldn't find these at all in the WIS!

 

[gerryvz]

Gerry, do those diagrams exist in the USA TDM's? I can't seem to find them. What group number are they under?

No, they are part of the comprehensive Technical Data Manual, which is 100% in German and covers all mechanical, paint, interior and other options availability, costs (in DM), and technical specifications for the cars, in addition to the dimensional data. The book also includes the W201, W126, and R129 models, and is dated late 1990.

 

[gerryvz]

Wow these are great! I couldn't find these at all in the WIS!

And you won't. Only available in the TDM. The one I have is from late 1990, so it was created just as series production of the 500E was starting !! The WIS didn't come along until much later. Back in 1990/1991, everything was still done in paper books and manuals, and microfiche.

This particular TDM is very rare, was a dealer-only product, and I'd venture to say that it is probably one of the only ones on US shores. I've never seen another one, definitely not here in the US.

 

[Draginev]

@gerryvz I wonder if you have the engine diagram in it aswell?

 

[gerryvz]

@gerryvz I wonder if you have the engine diagram in it aswell?

No. The book is mostly a technical sales book for dealerships and focuses more on the general specs, options (Ausstattung u. Sonderausstattung) and prices. It also covers financing (MB Credit), delivery and logistical elements for sales personnel.

 

[JC220]

Is there an imperial version of these charts available? Pesky euro types with their millimeters eh!!