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S70 7.0L AMG.
- Thread starter masskrer London
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Does anyone have the s70's VIN numbers?
I have VIN numbers. But they don´t show S70, just S600. Like this one for example. WDB1400571A231224.
weide1, send me VIN number which do you have please
Why? Without documents, stamps, etcetera, a VIN is of no use.
I collect information about these cars. I will send vin numbers to the person who will help me recognize these cars. This person worked at AMG before
Well, you have your 1st one in my initial post. Will you let me/us know what comes out?
Of course. Send me all of VIN numbers in one message because this person is an old man and he need to open his archives to find information.I will ask him to identify these cars.
I'll see what i can do. This will take time.
Thank you.I will be waiting for your information.
Can you check W124 Also?
Yes, give me vin number. 7.0 Amg im process. Does anyone have vin number SL7.3, C/W140 7.3 ? I will ask the person to additionally provide a transcript. He's still working on the archive.
You have a message!
@Piterbrabus
Dont know why but i cant sent you message…
This should be conversion after production, car does not have 957 code:
Wdb1240361C169521
Can you check is it really converted to 6.0L in AMG?
Thank you.
Dont know why but i cant sent you message…
This should be conversion after production, car does not have 957 code:
Wdb1240361C169521
Can you check is it really converted to 6.0L in AMG?
Thank you.
He is a new member and doesn't have PM privileges yet, I'd assume.
What came out?
Nice! Did AMG send that letter for free, or did it cost you >€700 to get it?Sorry Guys It has been a while since I updated this info.
I have gone with fine comb to check originality of S70 .
Looks like real deal.
I even have video with the oil filler cap open showing AMG camshaft
Then I approached MB officially and after some time got this letter.
No this did not cost 700 but I have requested AMG certificate and build sheet and that service will cost , not sure how much but will let you knowNice! Did AMG send that letter for free, or did it cost you >€700 to get it?
where there markings on it that you could see?Sorry Guys It has been a while since I updated this info.
I have gone with fine comb to check originality of S70 .
Looks like real deal.
I even have video with the oil filler cap open showing AMG camshaft
Then I approached MB officially and after some time got this letter.
on the cam
I was going through documents folder of S70
Found all inspections sheets done by Yanase LTD ( official AMG Japan at that time)
All fully filled in and stamped
Mileages all added up.
Found all inspections sheets done by Yanase LTD ( official AMG Japan at that time)
All fully filled in and stamped
Mileages all added up.
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Your certificate is the latest they supply I believe .
This is what you need to confirm that the car is original and real AMG
You can safely buy the best car ever
Initially I thought that w140 AMG were never supplied new from the factory.
But it looks like they were , at least in Japan.
I got mine through old contact in Germany it took ages
This is what you need to confirm that the car is original and real AMG
You can safely buy the best car ever
Initially I thought that w140 AMG were never supplied new from the factory.
But it looks like they were , at least in Japan.
I got mine through old contact in Germany it took ages
very interesting , so my car has E70 engine with E72 exhaust ( does it mean this exhaust was designed for E72 engine ? or this is just the name for any 7.0 AMG exhaust)
Also with regards to your description looks like changing engine managment system from e70 to e72 you would achieve extra power upgrade from 496 to 510 BHP?
As far as I am aware E72 engine was producing 525 BHP
Also with regards to your description looks like changing engine managment system from e70 to e72 you would achieve extra power upgrade from 496 to 510 BHP?
As far as I am aware E72 engine was producing 525 BHP
I 'm not certain about the M120 variants, but for the M119 AMG 6L builds, all exhaust systems were factory stock - the exception being AMG Japan sometimes fitted fancy square tips to the muffler outlet pipes. Main downpipes, catalysts, and center muffler/resonator were stock (not AMG / HWA- items). I have a feeling the M120 exhausts are similar, i.e. there are not AMG-specific exhaust components which increase power.
Edit: See posts below, AMG did modify the catalysts for 7L+ displacement M120 builds!
Edit: See posts below, AMG did modify the catalysts for 7L+ displacement M120 builds!
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Ok in case of m120 on w140 is actually different, ( this is based on checking 3 w140 7.0 amg before I bought current one)
Every car I inspected had different catalytic converter and rear box.
Rear box has completely different shape .
All cars are much louder comparing to standard S600.
they have part numbers corresponding to my certificate.
However I think the middle section is standard w140 part number but it is listed on my certificate
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You can check the numbers on the catalytic converter with a reverse lookup in the EPC. If it's not an HWA- number, it's almost certainly a stock / original M120 item. There may be different part numbers for different years/chassis with M120.
The rear muffler could indeed be different, which would account for louder exhaust note. However, if the engine has AMG camshafts, that can also change the exhaust note.
The rear muffler could indeed be different, which would account for louder exhaust note. However, if the engine has AMG camshafts, that can also change the exhaust note.
Catalytic converters have HWA part numbers on them along with AMG stamp on it.
You are right about camshafts
Car has HWA camshafts
below all modifications for e70 engine
You are right about camshafts
Car has HWA camshafts
below all modifications for e70 engine
This would make sense as the catalytic converters look like they had been cut open and after plate was welded on.
That new plate consist all the numbers I mentioned above
These two indeed are mentioned in your document.
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yes also found on the car.
These two LH-Jetronic SL72 documents indeed show different numbers: KT A004 and SN A017.
The LH-Jetronic S70 however shows same numbers as your HMS ME S70: KT A005, SM 0089 and SN A016.
But it also shows 386 kW and M120 7.0 engine.
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Very rapid 993Right. Indeed, how reliable are those V-max numbers in the Fahrzeugdokumente? I think Dekra/TüV just calculate from behind their desks.
And sometimes this goes way overrated.
It's this one. Over 20 years ago i got to drive it twice. But not up to V-max.Very rapid 993
