Postby a-man on Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:39 am
My interactions with the 500Ecstacy community were really positive, and as a newbie to this world it was a great resource to have. Recently it seemed that Scott did not have the time to manage it. It will be a huge loss to lose all the collective knowledge that was gathered there, but I think we need to look to the future. Where can we have a resource we can count on and be the central repository of information? I think the community needs an active and passionate 'community manager' who has the knowledge and maintains the site. I recommend that Gerry build out the Wiki on this site, and hopefully we can transfer some of the topics and info from the old site to the new board/wiki. I am staring at several 'must do' projects including a timing chain, and would really like to have a resource I can count on to be 'live'.
Allen Stephens
Portland, Oregon
1993 500E
a-man
===================================
Postby 500AMM on Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:31 am
Many good points coming up here, and it was very well said by Allen in his last post. I fully understand Gerry and his concerns for starting some kind of competition between the two forums. That is not a wanted situation by none I guess. It is no doubt that Scott and his 500Ecstasy.com was a high valued contribution and a start for getting us online and compiling important information about our cars. So, all credits to Scott for his initiative and efforts.
From my point of view did the high mass of information on 500ecstasy.com need a better categorization. This grew out of its proportion based on the Bulletin platform, which I also addressed in a thread there half a year ago. It is a lot of work put in 500ecstasy.com by several members and we can?t expect that everything will be repeated on this forum. It is now locked up and we need access to that material. Doesn?t Scott have, or feel, any commitment towards the members?! I hope so.
But we must be realistic, and based on the short time with 500Eboard.com and the prospected intention and security for the information, it is definitively the right step ahead. Let?s hope for a solution for either merging the information from 500ecstasy.com into this forum, or at least get it available as it is through a link here.
Regards
-arnt-
'94 E500 Limited, sapphire black, grey Limited leather, AMG mono II
'92 500E black/black, 6.0AMG conversion, K?nig supercharger w/intercooler
500AMM
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Postby sportline7 on Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:12 pm
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sportline7
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Postby gerryvz on Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:14 pm
There was a screen showing a couple of days ago saying that the board would be back up no later than December 12th, which was an improvement on the "error" that people were getting. Alas, looks like we're back to the errors.

Cheers,
Gerry
===================================
Postby Jim on Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:14 pm
It is really good to have a forum up and running again, thanks Gerry.
I know how much effort goes into managing a site so the best path for the two sites depends on that resource availability.
The simplest would be to get the Ecstasy site up and make a link. Otherwise it has to be the full monty with file transfer to the new site/wiki.
I think a half way between these two extremes would probably be chaotic and is likely to be programming/re-formatting intensive.
I agree we do not want competition between the sites.
Jim.
===================================
Postby sportline7 on Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:46 am
gerryvz wrote:There was a screen showing a couple of days ago saying that the board would be back up no later than December 12th, which was an improvement on the "error" that people were getting. Alas, looks like we're back to the errors.

Cheers,
Gerry
:worthy2: 
All kidding aside THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS!
sportline7
===================================
Postby IBNR on Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:42 pm
It's so good to have an E500E board back up and running. Sincere thank-you to Gerry for taking this on -- and thanks to Dave/GSXR for pointing me here! As far as Scott's board goes, I think Jim's post from Dec. 11 has it exactly right.
Thanks!
Mike
===================================
Postby Pupsi on Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:52 am
I say keep this site up.
However, the 500ecstasy site has a lot of valuable information on it, whenever i needed some sort of help, i just used the search function.
Would it be possible to transfer all that available data over to this site?
P u p s i
User avatar
Pupsi
===================================
Postby sportline7 on Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:57 am
Hey, this is a clean slate, how cool is that? Imagine what it will be, I see great things coming.
All you have to do is ask, the info will be yours, look at the people with the know how who are posting now! Things change, go with the flow.
sportline7
===================================
Postby gsxr on Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:43 pm
I wish Scott would use a full hosting service, instead of self-hosting... that would take care of the downtime. It would be tough to have 2 competing sites though. Oy, gevalt...
:?:
Dave M.
Boise, ID
1995 E420 (W.I.P.)
1994 E500 (Q-ship)
1993 300D (Sportline)
1987 300D (Sportline Stage 2)
1987 300D (R.I.P)
Click here for my website photos, documents, and movies.
===================================
Postby Glen on Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:34 am
www.500ecstasy.com is back online.
Glen Tokuhara
A few cars...
===================================
Postby 124036-009 on Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:39 am
But not workin' the forums have database error :-/
Volkswagen Golf/Rabbit Mk1 1,6D Aut. '83 220kkm / Mercedes-Benz E500 Limited '94 83kkm
===================================
Postby battlecat714 on Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:43 am
124036-009 wrote:But not workin' the forums have database error :-/
Roger that, I got the same message.
Jorge
1994|040|W124.036|E500
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Postby 124036-009 on Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:48 am
although I got a mail from Scott saying that it was 100% complete :-?
Volkswagen Golf/Rabbit Mk1 1,6D Aut. '83 220kkm / Mercedes-Benz E500 Limited '94 83kkm
===================================
Postby Aki on Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:25 am
I got message too. ...but it?s not working.
1992|199|124.036|500E
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Postby sportline7 on Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:15 am
The page cannot be displayed
The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to adjust your browser settings

sportline7
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Postby sportline7 on Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:31 am
The 500Ecstasy.com | everybody get your ROLL on database has encountered a problem.
sportline7
===================================
Postby need2speed on Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:14 pm
nt
need2speed
500E500 owners motto: "Lead, follow, or better yet, get out of the way."
===================================
Postby Glen on Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:06 pm
I guess the database issues aren't resolved...
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Postby 2phast on Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:44 pm
Given the lack of commitment from Scott to keeping the site running and the inherent problems with self hosting, it might be best to consolidate into one site. Scott should hand the reigns over to Gerry, whom could be the owner of the site going forward.
2000 CLK32k & 1993 500E
==========================
Postby gsxr on Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:55 pm
I'm not sure Scott would be receptive to that suggestion. Perhaps there could be a (temporary?) co-ownership, or possibly allowing Gerry to take over 500Ecstasy until Scott has time to maintain it?
Dave M.
Boise, ID
1995 E420 (W.I.P.)
1994 E500 (Q-ship)
1993 300D (Sportline)
1987 300D (Sportline Stage 2)
1987 300D (R.I.P)
Click here for my website photos, documents, and movies.
==========================
Postby G Man on Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:48 pm
I tried to log on today and got this message....
Your submission could not be processed because a security token was missing.
If this occurred unexpectedly, please inform the administrator and describe the action you performed before you received this error.
Gary
'92 Mercedes 500E
'01 BMW M5
'04 E55 AMG
G Man's Site
==========================
Postby 2phast on Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:26 am
Scott's site still does not work, despite his recent email that it was 1005 :angry:
Gerry's commitment is solid and he is motivated to take a 500e specific site to the next level. Scott hasn't put in any effort for many years, hence the "lack of commitment" statement.
I for one, will follow the masses of course, but I prefer to be on a site that I know is going to be around for a while.
==========================
Postby gerryvz on Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:45 am
I am happy to do whatever is best for the overall owner community. It would be straightforward to import Scott's BBS to this one, or vice versa, in order to have only one.
I am also totally open to having a trusted person be the co-sysadmin for this site. It is a labor of love and of course only goes on a "time available" basis.
Cheers from 11-degree-Farenheit downtown Chicago...
Gerry
==========================
Postby 124036-009 on Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:40 am
Looks like the site is working now!
Volkswagen Golf/Rabbit Mk1 1,6D Aut. '83 220kkm / Mercedes-Benz E500 Limited '94 83kkm
==========================
Postby 124036-009 on Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:15 am
Out of order... Again!
Volkswagen Golf/Rabbit Mk1 1,6D Aut. '83 220kkm / Mercedes-Benz E500 Limited '94 83kkm
==========================
Postby She loved E on Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:53 am
I don't think that's a fair statement. I joined 500Ecstasy less than three years ago, and Scott was active most of this time. I can't imagine the amount of time and effort (never mind cost) that must go into maintaining a board as active as his.
Gerry has been an invaluable resource too, but lets not be so quick to jump off (or is it on?) the bandwagon. I will also use whatever board is active, and I hope Gerry and Scott both continue their activity in the global E500E community.
-Kyle
==========================
Postby TerryA on Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:48 am
I too like both sites and will use both of them. Scott and Gerry both have put in their time.
I know that Scott has been very busy and has probably not had the time or maybe the $ to get things straightned out. I am sure if he wants to shut down that he would announce it on one of these forums.
Until that happens I plan of keeping up.
Take Care
Terry
==========================
Our info is held hostage...
Postby need2speed on Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:19 pm
The only troubling issue re 500ecstasy is that many of us have invested research and data into the site, and built a network of contacts that are very helpful. Now all that is unaccessible and, worst case, may never be again. Any IT manager would recognize the vulnerability in lacking a back-up storage site. The best would be that these two forums back each other up BUT human nature is that users would likely participate more on one site than the other.....
need2speed
==========================
Postby 500AMM on Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:35 pm
Hi.
Any news about the "resurrection" of 500ecstasy??
This is frustrating and a bit anoying too. First of all have many members supported the site financially to allow for development and maintenance. Next they have supplied masses of information which is the real value of the site. Where is the commitment laying here!?! Can someone get that man in talk!
-arnt-
My interactions with the 500Ecstacy community were really positive, and as a newbie to this world it was a great resource to have. Recently it seemed that Scott did not have the time to manage it. It will be a huge loss to lose all the collective knowledge that was gathered there, but I think we need to look to the future. Where can we have a resource we can count on and be the central repository of information? I think the community needs an active and passionate 'community manager' who has the knowledge and maintains the site. I recommend that Gerry build out the Wiki on this site, and hopefully we can transfer some of the topics and info from the old site to the new board/wiki. I am staring at several 'must do' projects including a timing chain, and would really like to have a resource I can count on to be 'live'.
Allen Stephens
Portland, Oregon
1993 500E
a-man
===================================
Postby 500AMM on Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:31 am
Many good points coming up here, and it was very well said by Allen in his last post. I fully understand Gerry and his concerns for starting some kind of competition between the two forums. That is not a wanted situation by none I guess. It is no doubt that Scott and his 500Ecstasy.com was a high valued contribution and a start for getting us online and compiling important information about our cars. So, all credits to Scott for his initiative and efforts.
From my point of view did the high mass of information on 500ecstasy.com need a better categorization. This grew out of its proportion based on the Bulletin platform, which I also addressed in a thread there half a year ago. It is a lot of work put in 500ecstasy.com by several members and we can?t expect that everything will be repeated on this forum. It is now locked up and we need access to that material. Doesn?t Scott have, or feel, any commitment towards the members?! I hope so.
But we must be realistic, and based on the short time with 500Eboard.com and the prospected intention and security for the information, it is definitively the right step ahead. Let?s hope for a solution for either merging the information from 500ecstasy.com into this forum, or at least get it available as it is through a link here.
Regards
-arnt-
'94 E500 Limited, sapphire black, grey Limited leather, AMG mono II
'92 500E black/black, 6.0AMG conversion, K?nig supercharger w/intercooler
500AMM
===================================
Postby sportline7 on Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:12 pm
The page cannot be displayed
The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to adjust your browser settings.

sportline7
===================================
Postby gerryvz on Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:14 pm
There was a screen showing a couple of days ago saying that the board would be back up no later than December 12th, which was an improvement on the "error" that people were getting. Alas, looks like we're back to the errors.

Cheers,
Gerry
===================================
Postby Jim on Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:14 pm
It is really good to have a forum up and running again, thanks Gerry.
I know how much effort goes into managing a site so the best path for the two sites depends on that resource availability.
The simplest would be to get the Ecstasy site up and make a link. Otherwise it has to be the full monty with file transfer to the new site/wiki.
I think a half way between these two extremes would probably be chaotic and is likely to be programming/re-formatting intensive.
I agree we do not want competition between the sites.
Jim.
===================================
Postby sportline7 on Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:46 am
gerryvz wrote:There was a screen showing a couple of days ago saying that the board would be back up no later than December 12th, which was an improvement on the "error" that people were getting. Alas, looks like we're back to the errors.

Cheers,
Gerry


All kidding aside THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS!
sportline7
===================================
Postby IBNR on Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:42 pm
It's so good to have an E500E board back up and running. Sincere thank-you to Gerry for taking this on -- and thanks to Dave/GSXR for pointing me here! As far as Scott's board goes, I think Jim's post from Dec. 11 has it exactly right.
Thanks!
Mike
===================================
Postby Pupsi on Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:52 am
I say keep this site up.
However, the 500ecstasy site has a lot of valuable information on it, whenever i needed some sort of help, i just used the search function.
Would it be possible to transfer all that available data over to this site?
P u p s i
User avatar
Pupsi
===================================
Postby sportline7 on Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:57 am
Hey, this is a clean slate, how cool is that? Imagine what it will be, I see great things coming.
All you have to do is ask, the info will be yours, look at the people with the know how who are posting now! Things change, go with the flow.
sportline7
===================================
Postby gsxr on Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:43 pm
I wish Scott would use a full hosting service, instead of self-hosting... that would take care of the downtime. It would be tough to have 2 competing sites though. Oy, gevalt...
:?:
Dave M.
Boise, ID
1995 E420 (W.I.P.)
1994 E500 (Q-ship)
1993 300D (Sportline)
1987 300D (Sportline Stage 2)
1987 300D (R.I.P)
Click here for my website photos, documents, and movies.
===================================
Postby Glen on Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:34 am
www.500ecstasy.com is back online.
Glen Tokuhara
A few cars...
===================================
Postby 124036-009 on Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:39 am
But not workin' the forums have database error :-/
Volkswagen Golf/Rabbit Mk1 1,6D Aut. '83 220kkm / Mercedes-Benz E500 Limited '94 83kkm
===================================
Postby battlecat714 on Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:43 am
124036-009 wrote:But not workin' the forums have database error :-/
Roger that, I got the same message.
Jorge
1994|040|W124.036|E500
===================================
Postby 124036-009 on Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:48 am
although I got a mail from Scott saying that it was 100% complete :-?
Volkswagen Golf/Rabbit Mk1 1,6D Aut. '83 220kkm / Mercedes-Benz E500 Limited '94 83kkm
===================================
Postby Aki on Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:25 am
I got message too. ...but it?s not working.
1992|199|124.036|500E
===================================
Postby sportline7 on Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:15 am
The page cannot be displayed
The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to adjust your browser settings

sportline7
===================================
Postby sportline7 on Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:31 am
The 500Ecstasy.com | everybody get your ROLL on database has encountered a problem.
sportline7
===================================
Postby need2speed on Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:14 pm
nt
need2speed
500E500 owners motto: "Lead, follow, or better yet, get out of the way."
===================================
Postby Glen on Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:06 pm
I guess the database issues aren't resolved...
===================================
Postby 2phast on Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:44 pm
Given the lack of commitment from Scott to keeping the site running and the inherent problems with self hosting, it might be best to consolidate into one site. Scott should hand the reigns over to Gerry, whom could be the owner of the site going forward.
2000 CLK32k & 1993 500E
==========================
Postby gsxr on Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:55 pm
I'm not sure Scott would be receptive to that suggestion. Perhaps there could be a (temporary?) co-ownership, or possibly allowing Gerry to take over 500Ecstasy until Scott has time to maintain it?
Dave M.
Boise, ID
1995 E420 (W.I.P.)
1994 E500 (Q-ship)
1993 300D (Sportline)
1987 300D (Sportline Stage 2)
1987 300D (R.I.P)
Click here for my website photos, documents, and movies.
==========================
Postby G Man on Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:48 pm
I tried to log on today and got this message....
Your submission could not be processed because a security token was missing.
If this occurred unexpectedly, please inform the administrator and describe the action you performed before you received this error.
Gary
'92 Mercedes 500E
'01 BMW M5
'04 E55 AMG
G Man's Site
==========================
Postby 2phast on Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:26 am
Scott's site still does not work, despite his recent email that it was 1005 :angry:
Gerry's commitment is solid and he is motivated to take a 500e specific site to the next level. Scott hasn't put in any effort for many years, hence the "lack of commitment" statement.
I for one, will follow the masses of course, but I prefer to be on a site that I know is going to be around for a while.
==========================
Postby gerryvz on Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:45 am
I am happy to do whatever is best for the overall owner community. It would be straightforward to import Scott's BBS to this one, or vice versa, in order to have only one.
I am also totally open to having a trusted person be the co-sysadmin for this site. It is a labor of love and of course only goes on a "time available" basis.
Cheers from 11-degree-Farenheit downtown Chicago...
Gerry
==========================
Postby 124036-009 on Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:40 am
Looks like the site is working now!
Volkswagen Golf/Rabbit Mk1 1,6D Aut. '83 220kkm / Mercedes-Benz E500 Limited '94 83kkm
==========================
Postby 124036-009 on Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:15 am
Out of order... Again!
Volkswagen Golf/Rabbit Mk1 1,6D Aut. '83 220kkm / Mercedes-Benz E500 Limited '94 83kkm
==========================
Postby She loved E on Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:53 am
I don't think that's a fair statement. I joined 500Ecstasy less than three years ago, and Scott was active most of this time. I can't imagine the amount of time and effort (never mind cost) that must go into maintaining a board as active as his.
Gerry has been an invaluable resource too, but lets not be so quick to jump off (or is it on?) the bandwagon. I will also use whatever board is active, and I hope Gerry and Scott both continue their activity in the global E500E community.
-Kyle
==========================
Postby TerryA on Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:48 am
I too like both sites and will use both of them. Scott and Gerry both have put in their time.
I know that Scott has been very busy and has probably not had the time or maybe the $ to get things straightned out. I am sure if he wants to shut down that he would announce it on one of these forums.
Until that happens I plan of keeping up.
Take Care
Terry
==========================
Our info is held hostage...
Postby need2speed on Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:19 pm
The only troubling issue re 500ecstasy is that many of us have invested research and data into the site, and built a network of contacts that are very helpful. Now all that is unaccessible and, worst case, may never be again. Any IT manager would recognize the vulnerability in lacking a back-up storage site. The best would be that these two forums back each other up BUT human nature is that users would likely participate more on one site than the other.....
need2speed
==========================
Postby 500AMM on Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:35 pm
Hi.
Any news about the "resurrection" of 500ecstasy??
This is frustrating and a bit anoying too. First of all have many members supported the site financially to allow for development and maintenance. Next they have supplied masses of information which is the real value of the site. Where is the commitment laying here!?! Can someone get that man in talk!
-arnt-
