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E60 AMG FOR SALE

ceed09

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I am currently negotiating to purchase a 1994 E60 AMG Limited. The car is in Japan and the VIN is WDB1240361C131823. Can anyone help in decoding the VIN? The car has all the salient features of an E60 AMG Limited.
 
The VIN checks out as a legitimate E60 Limited, with both option codes 957 and 958. Sapphire Black paint (code 009) and gray Limited interior (code 288). Wow. Got any photos of this beauty??

:apl: :apl:
 
Thank you very much Gear for the confirmation. Can you please tell how you deciphered the VIN because from the MBworld forum they are unsure if its an E60 Limited. Secondly, how much is a fair price for the car? The condition is very good and the mileage is 90K kilometers. I will some pics soon.
 
Just check it on the EPC , for the price since it's one of the rarest
it can be very high , in Europe a car like that can reach 45.000 euros depending on the condition.
 

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Since they are very rare (12 produced), the only two examples we've seen were one in 2008 in Japan with 30,000km being sold for near $100,000. And one In Germany back in 2006 with 110,000km Went for 39,000 Euro. As far as I remember.
(Both Cars were fully documented and verified one owner, the German car had its original order bill)

But Now the prices of special model E500E Has rocketed. An E60 AMG with 305,000km now being offered for 35,000 Euro

Please note that the values quoted are for legitimate and documented cars. If you are offered an E60 Limited that was 'somehow' found in a container coming from Japan , it not going to be worth as much.
 
Pictures of the E60



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Its a German Version, PIAA box is probably Xenon headlight conversion.

Is it parked in one of those Japanese free zones?? Check the Vehicle documentation (Shakin, Service book, registration and possibly the old German Reg papers)
How much are the asking?
 
There was a 1994 E60 Limited listed for sale in the May 2006 edition of Mercedes Enthusiast by The Hairpin Company.

"A very rare end of line limited example of the ultimate W124, featuring the AMG 6 Litre V8 engine. Fitted with every factory option, and having covered just 43k mls in the hands of 2 owners. This car is in superb, unmarked condition throughout with full MBSH, all books and invoices. £24,995".
 
I think I remember this car, it was with an Irish chap who lived in Spain.
But to sell for that price he must have been really desperate ! Irish Economy ???...

Its worth almost twice that in Continental Europe, where it probably is now. If I knew about it would have had Q8 plates by now.

Gerry, could you confirm the car?
 
Just to inform everyone that I am no longer buying the E60 Limited. Thanks to 126v8 who sent me an email that the car has been repaired. I gave the information to my agent and after some snooping, he was able to get the right information. The car figured in a collision and was rear ended. There was damage to the frame so that explains why the price is low.

Anyway I was offered an E500 Limited but the interior combo is black and ruby. Not really to my liking. Check out the photos:

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ceed09 said:
Just to inform everyone that I am no longer buying the E60 Limited. Thanks to 126v8 who sent me an email that the car has been repaired. I gave the information to my agent and after some snooping, he was able to get the right information. The car figured in a collision and was rear ended. There was damage to the frame so that explains why the price is low.

Thank you for being reasonable. The last person we tried to convince not to buy a de-registered Jap car thought he was smarter than everyone else. he needed a new tranny after a week. Frame damage is a No Go even if its an E60 Limited. unless its cheap enough to strip down and rebuilt on the base of a good E500E. How Much Are they asking?

You CAN find good cars in Germany, Switzerland, USA and other countries. Are you looking for 6.0L / 6.5L cars?

By the way where are you located?

Regards
 
Thank you for being reasonable. The last person we tried to convince not to buy a de-registered Jap car thought he was smarter than everyone else. he needed a new tranny after a week. Frame damage is a No Go even if its an E60 Limited. unless its cheap enough to strip down and rebuilt on the base of a good E500E. How Much Are they asking?

You CAN find good cars in Germany, Switzerland, USA and other countries. Are you looking for 6.0L / 6.5L cars?

By the way where are you located?


You are right about a NO GO on a frame damaged car. It will never run true no matter how good the repair work is. It happened to me before when I purchased this 78 Ferrari 308GTB. I let my emotions do the talking so I bought it without checking the car's background.

One day I noticed when looking from the back of the car that the rear tires were not in symetry with the body. I brought it to a body shop and what do you know the chassis was bent badly and some quick fix repair job was done on the car. It cost me a small fortune just to straighten the frame.

The 94 E60 Limited was offered to me at $45K

The E500 Limited is being sold for $25K with 85K kilometers on the odometer. The interior is just not to my liking. Would have been nice if it were a black and grey combo instead of black and ruby.

Although I have a well preserved low mileage 92 500E, I am still in the hunt for an E60. I live in the Philippines and we have about 15 E500Es here and I think 2 E60s.
 
That's right. One more thing to add is that some of these 'Framed' cars are cut in half and welded to a good half from another car. I saw some horrific crashes of such sort of cars, where the car is torn in half or buckles at the weld point.
If its a frame damaged E500, then it must have been a big crash.

I am in Q8, we have about 45 E500E, no E60's But we have an Original BRABUS 6.5 that was originally an E60 AMG !

The picture is of a Jap import S600 that was rear ended in Q8, The damage level is way too much for a W140. The rear end must have been weak due to a previous major crash. Dozens of These cars were imported here with low mileage and being sold for $10-12K!! Incase your wondering what the other car was, A ford Expedition.

Regards
 

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gsxr said:
The VIN checks out as a legitimate E60 Limited, with both option codes 957 and 958. Sapphire Black paint (code 009) and gray Limited interior (code 288). Wow. Got any photos of this beauty??

:apl: :apl:


Hello GSXR,

Would you be so kind enoigh to decode another E60 I am being offered? The VIN is WDB124036B950621

Regards,

Eric
 
ceed09 said:
Hello GSXR,

Would you be so kind enoigh to decode another E60 I am being offered?


Regards,

Eric

Hi Eric, I can Decode It if Dave hasn't already done so.
 
- Datacard -
VIN: WDB1240361B950621
Sales designation: 500 E
Order no. 0 2 235 01372
Dealer no.:
Delivery date:
Original parts
Engine no.: 119974 12 007745
Transmission: 722370 03 848814
Lamps: HELLA
Wipers: BOSCH 930428
Paint/equipment: Code 1:744 Equipment:271
SA code
241 260 412 540 570 592 620 682 810 819
855 873 884 957 981 744 271A

- Car is an Early E60 AMG. (Should be Non facelifted). Malaysia Import (?)
- Brilliant Silver with Leather Black interior
- 1993 Model.
 
195910 said:
- Datacard -
VIN: WDB1240361B950621
Sales designation: 500 E
Order no. 0 2 235 01372
Dealer no.:
Delivery date:
Original parts
Engine no.: 119974 12 007745
Transmission: 722370 03 848814
Lamps: HELLA
Wipers: BOSCH 930428
Paint/equipment: Code 1:744 Equipment:271
SA code
241 260 412 540 570 592 620 682 810 819
855 873 884 957 981 744 271A

- Car is an Early E60 AMG. (Should be Non facelifted). Malaysia Import (?)
- Brilliant Silver with Leather Black interior
- 1993 Model.


Hi, thanks for the decode. Anyway it is declared as a 1994 model so its facelifted already. If you're saying its a 93 then they must have facelifted the car. Its brilliant silver with black interior. Judging from the picture, it looks like it has AMG front and rear bumpers too. You think its worth the asking price of $36K?
 
ceed09 said:
Hi, thanks for the decode. Anyway it is declared as a 1994 model so its facelifted already. If you're saying its a 93 then they must have facelifted the car. Its brilliant silver with black interior. Judging from the picture, it looks like it has AMG front and rear bumpers too. You think its worth the asking price of $36K?

Two things to mention here:

1 - its a 1B chassis with a 950 VIN and the order year is 1992. So it should be a non face lifted model. Face lifted cars (post 06/1993) have a 1C chassis and have a code for face lift in the SA codes.

2 - There is no such thing as an AMG body kit for the 500E. All the Original AMG and BRABUS cars had the standard E500E bumpers/spoilers. But some people made Glass fibre replicas of the AMG GEN II bumper (available only for standard W124) and made them to fit the 500E body.

How much mileage does it have? any other mods? Service history and crash history?
The price is OK if the car is OK.

Their is one in Germany for slightly less, 1995 All original with full service history and papers. The mileage is 305TKM autobahn kilometers

Regards
 
195910 said:
1 - its a 1B chassis with a 950 VIN and the order year is 1992. So it should be a non face lifted model. Face lifted cars (post 06/1993) have a 1C chassis and have a code for face lift in the SA codes.
Please note that the letter in front of the chassis number (B/C) does not definitively indicate the model year or facelift. In the USA, the very early 1994/facelift models had late 1B VIN's, B973321-->. In Japan, it was B967202-->. This may vary slightly in other regions but 1B does not automatically equal a 1993 model year.

This particular E60 VIN has SA code 88-56798/38 which appears to be the facelift code, although the option code doesn't appear, which doesn't necessarly mean anything. I'd check the date on the door plate and see when the car was manufactured, if it's 06/1993 or later, it's most likely a 1994/facelift model.

You can also look for the VIN stickers, there should be one at least on the trunk lid, which would verify if it's the original lid, and therefore an original factory-facelift car (as opposed to an owner-facelifted car). On US-spec 1994 models, the sticker is located behind the license plate.


195910 said:
2 - There is no such thing as an AMG body kit for the 500E. All the Original AMG and BRABUS cars had the standard E500E bumpers/spoilers. But some people made Glass fibre replicas of the AMG GEN II bumper (available only for standard W124) and made them to fit the 500E body.
100% correct. If done properly, a Gen2 kit would look way cool on the .036 though!

:banana2:
 
Hmmm interesting Dave. The VIN of all the 1993-1995 facelift cars I checked have 1C. But it might differ for US and Jap versions. MB also used this VIN breakpoint system on the W210 were 1A was pre-2000 and 1B for the 2000 face lift.

I think its crucial to know if it's an original face lift or not, a lot of cars that are 'owner face lift' had it done after a crash.

Regards
 
195910 said:
Hmmm interesting Dave. The VIN of all the 1993-1995 facelift cars I checked have 1C. But it might differ for US and Jap versions. MB also used this VIN breakpoint system on the W210 were 1A was pre-2000 and 1B for the 2000 face lift.

I think its crucial to know if it's an original face lift or not, a lot of cars that are 'owner face lift' had it done after a crash.

Regards


The dealer certifies that it has not been facelifted. Anyway, I will check the manufacturing date on the door just make sure. The car only has 90K kilometers so its pretty low milieage. One more thing disclosed was it has been recently repainted to its original color. Maybe I should ask for a certification just to make sure that the car has not been in an accident.

There is another car for sale by them and its a 92 500E 6.0. The conversion was done by AMG Japan. what is amazing is the asking price of $95K! The reason being is, it is one of the few conversions done in Japan.
 
ceed09 said:
Actually, the AMG bumpers really look good on the E500. The front end looks meaner. Attached is the dealer website where the E60 is advertised courtesy of 126V8: http://www.carsensor.net/usedcar/detail ... RCD=200002

Hi Ceed, Just saw the site. I think the dealer is ok. but I didn't understand the difference in price.. $29K Vs $95K !! mileage is 100K vs 37K but its not much for rare cars like the E60's. Check for other factors.
You could try J-auto, they are the E500E specialists in Japan. Rakuten have nice cars aswell.
 
Just a side note re the two-color leather, notice the severe cracking on the red portion of the passenger seat? I think one must budget for full replacement back to regular hides! The leather color was a surface treatment which didn't wear very well :-(
 
Hi Ceed, Just saw the site. I think the dealer is ok. but I didn't understand the difference in price.. $29K Vs $95K !! mileage is 100K vs 37K but its not much for rare cars like the E60's. Check for other factors.
You could try J-auto, they are the E500E specialists in Japan. Rakuten have nice cars aswell.


BTW does the E60 have first gear start?
 
195910 said:
I am in Q8, we have about 45 E500E, no E60's But we have an Original BRABUS 6.5 that was originally an E60 AMG !



Regards

This car ??

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For me a Dream car would be a 6.5L but with what ever Porsche did to the 997 Turbo to make it go from 0-100 in 3.7sec.

A few interesting facts about the 2007 997 Turbo:

Leistung 480PS ( BRABUS 6.5L : 460PS NO KAT)
Torque 620NM ( BRABUS 6.5L : 680NM NO KAT)
Luftwiderstandsbeiwert (Cw) 0,31 ( BRABUS 6.5L : 0.32)
Leergewicht nach EG-Richtlinie 1.670 kg ( BRABUS 6.5L : 1.730)
Wheels HP: ~408hp (Not done for Brabus yet, but 500E losses about 65hp from crank to wheel).

I am not asking for the same number, But low 4 is nice!
 
Alpina said:
My dreamcar is w124036 w/M120 7.3s

but this M119 6.5 is also a hell of a car :blower:


I would consider the 7.3 as the ultimate W124 car. To change the topic, will the Hammer have more collecor status than let say an E60?
 
I'd say the Hammer would be equal to the E60 Limited, as there were 13 Hammers built and 12 E60 Limiteds. I don't know the total number of E60's built though. I know Omegabenz has considered selling his silver Hammer in case you're interested in checking it out...

:apl:
 
125 E60's in total (according to German sources).

But to consider as well:

Only 2 BRABUS 7.3
Only 4 BRABUS 6.5
 
195910 said:
For me a Dream car would be a 6.5L but with what ever Porsche did to the 997 Turbo to make it go from 0-100 in 3.7sec.

A few interesting facts about the 2007 997 Turbo:

Leistung 480PS ( BRABUS 6.5L : 460PS NO KAT)
Torque 620NM ( BRABUS 6.5L : 680NM NO KAT)
Luftwiderstandsbeiwert (Cw) 0,31 ( BRABUS 6.5L : 0.32)
Leergewicht nach EG-Richtlinie 1.670 kg ( BRABUS 6.5L : 1.730)
Wheels HP: ~408hp (Not done for Brabus yet, but 500E losses about 65hp from crank to wheel).

I am not asking for the same number, But low 4 is nice!

Well 4wd with massive tyres, LSD and PASM for a start.....oh and launch control.
 
chappardababbar said:
Well 4wd with massive tyres, LSD and PASM for a start.....oh and launch control.

For the launch they they switch off the PSM and raise the RPM (hence boost).
I read about the new variable gate turbo chargers and how the maintain the peek torque (compared to the 996 turbo). The M119 delivers 90% of the torque at 1500rpm.

LSD is a thought. I am not sure about 4wd as the GT2 is 2WD and can do the same numbers. And most 500E's are rolling on wider tyres.

Now a 124036 with a 650hp ZONDA M120 Block will wipe out any turbo!!!
 
chappardababbar said:
Yes but the ultimate ultimate would have the 7.3 Zonda engine

Just imagine.. Brabus 7.3S was 580+ bhp,, and was a stunning figure in the mid 90s

we are talking about close to 70 morebhp,, but i think the exhaust ((headers)) on the ZONDA engine will not fit in the 124 engine bay
so close to620 bhp is well accepted

I agree .. 124036 with this engine is by far the greatest ever E500E
 
I am close to finalizing the deal on the E60. Agreed sale price including taxes and agent commission is $33K. Duties and taxes in the Philippines plus shipping will cost me an additional $15K so total landed is $48K.

There is an 94 E500 Limited that is also being offered to me with a beautiful black ang green interior. The asking price is also $33K. I have attached some pictures of the car.

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ceed09 said:
I am close to finalizing the deal on the E60. Agreed sale price including taxes and agent commission is $33K. Duties and taxes in the Philippines plus shipping will cost me an additional $15K so total landed is $48K.

There is an 94 E500 Limited that is also being offered to me with a beautiful black ang green interior. The asking price is also $33K. I have attached some pictures of the car.

The worst thing about the E500 LTD is the horrible interiour

GREEN // SILVER // RED mixed with the black i would never by an E500 JUST because of the leather :thumbsdown:
 
Hi Ceed,

Seems like a good deal... Mileage, History, Pics ?
How much import Tax do you have to pay?

The green interior is not to the liking of many. And the Limited leather is impossible to maintain. The colours will fade and it will look like someone threw up on the seats ( Very Beautiful when new though).
 
195910 said:
Hi Ceed,

Seems like a good deal... Mileage, History, Pics ?
How much import Tax do you have to pay?

The green interior is not to the liking of many. And the Limited leather is impossible to maintain. The colours will fade and it will look like someone threw up on the seats ( Very Beautiful when new though).
Thanks. I guess that's the main reason I like my Limited.

-a-
 
Arnt,

I didn't mean it in a personal way. Rosier interior is very beautiful and stylish. But its the fading issue that is confirmed by many people including MB.
 
Regarding 500E and AMG Bodykit... It looks very nice actually! http://img171.imageshack.us/slideshow/w ... 000302.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/i/48610000302.jpg/
http://img826.imageshack.us/i/48610000304.jpg/
http://img138.imageshack.us/i/48610000305.jpg/
http://img716.imageshack.us/i/48610000306.jpg/
http://img828.imageshack.us/i/48610000308.jpg/

My friends E420 looks, besides the 500Es flared fenders, 100% like this. He has this AMG Bodykit together with original AMG Suspension, Original AMG Wheels like in the pictures and original AMG Exhaust.
 
195910 said:
Arnt,

I didn't mean it in a personal way. Rosier interior is very beautiful and stylish. But its the fading issue that is confirmed by many people including MB.
Thanks A, I accept that.

I normally don't identify myself deeply with my cars. However, it's a great part of my life taking alot of time, money and efforts, so it may trigger emotional reactions sometimes. 500Espot is a very unique and a great place to be, sharing our experience and knowledge - it feels like being a part of a great family. I hope many others here see it that way too. :cheers3:

Forums are public rooms so we have to take that into consideration. I have also done verbal blunders and learned of that. So my moral is;
- stay positive and give positive compliments
- do never give negative compliments about others cars and preferences
- if I see strange things, give objective comments, or simply don't say anything

Cheers to Gerry for making such a great community for us. :kinggrin:

Ciao,
-arnt-
 

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