SOLD 1994 E500 Limited AMG 6.0L, Sapphire Black/Black/Gray, 146kkm, auction (Netherlands)

[masskrer London]

not sure what's going on, last bid € 104K and then the screen went blank......(not me bidding!)

Looks like whole website went down.
Someone is up to no good here
Last sale fell through
Now this…

 

[AdamCabrio]

Anyway, here is the screenshot of the earlier "sale" that fell through (March 27) at The Collectables auction (the Netherlands).
Plus screenshots of "No Sale" in Febr. 2023 in Paris @ArtCurial (despite the 2nd ArtCurial screenshot (Febr 2023) indicates "sold", it clearly was not!)

It appears that someone wants a bit too much money for it.....(don't know who the seller is)

 

[AdamCabrio]

Quite unprofessional IMHO. After the screens went black, The Collectables got it up and running again, but several times after the time clock ticked back to zero, it started again for a few minutes......hoping for more appetite in the market (my guess). It now indicates: "afgelopen" (= finished). But you never know with these guys.....
We'll have to wait and see whether the reserve was met, and if so, whether or not this sale will be consummated.

 

[AdamCabrio]

Now evident, there was no sale on April 30 (just as there wasn't one on March 27, and neither @ArtCurial2023 in Paris). Until very shortly, the site of The Collectables had the car archived as: "afgelopen on April 30 at 10.11 PM" (= finished, highest bid € 106K), see above.

You almost won't believe it, they are going to try again (!) soon (same online auction). Now in the section "verwacht" (= expected"). This is becoming tiresome.....

 

[500AMM]

Any plans to make an offer on this car?

 

[500AMM]

Now evident, there was no sale on April 30 (just as there wasn't one on March 27, and neither @ArtCurial2023 in Paris). Until very shortly, the site of The Collectables had the car archived as: "afgelopen on April 30 at 10.11 PM" (= finished, highest bid € 106K), see above.

You almost won't believe it, they are going to try again (!) soon (same online auction). Now in the section "verwacht" (= expected"). This is becoming tiresome.....

Any plans to make an offer on this car?

 

[AdamCabrio]

Any plans to make an offer on this car?

No, not me. Might have been tempting if it was a true 957 car, that didn't spend 25 years in Japan, and didn't have the mod's.

I'm just following this car as the auction(s) takes place in my country. Just found out that they are hoping to get 147.950 euro's (they might accept less), which I think is a bit optimistic for this mileage and history. But whomever the seller is, I'll wish him luck when the auction goes live again.

 

[stickyvicky]

106K EURO SOLD

 

[AdamCabrio]

106K EURO SOLD

Nope. Reserve was not met. Will be in same online auction again soon.
(No affiliation)

 

[stickyvicky]

oh, i was surprised so it was sold so cheap

 

[AdamCabrio]

And round 3 overhere (same auction house), 8 more days to go....

Mercedes E60 AMG 1995 | The Collectables

1 van de 147 gebouwde E60 AMG's - Volledig gedocumenteerd

thecollectables.nl

 

[AdamCabrio]

Does anyone know who the current owner / trade seller is of this car?

(No affiliation)

FYI: owner/seller is Porsche Centrum Gelderland where the car is currently being held in trade inventory. Our forum member @RuudE420 - who bought the car at the online RM Sotheby's Monterey auction in Aug. 2020 (see above) - traded the car in for a P911 on Febr. 16, 2024 (= date of publicly available registered last change of ownership).

Incidently, the owner of this P-dealership (Mark Wegh) happens to be also the owner of the online auction house The Collectables: for petrolheads, by petrolheads

Will he succeed 3rd time around??

6 more days to go......GLWA

 

[AdamCabrio]

FYI: online auction just finished. Highest bid € 105.000 (= lower than 2nd time around on April 30, and way lower than 1st attempt on March 27). So, it doesn't look like a sale. Wouldn't surprise me if it will be tried again after some cooling off period.

 

[AdamCabrio]

(No affiliation)

Update: after the finalized recent auction (see above) the car seems to have been sold after all. According to public records, on 30 May 2024 the ownership changed (to a non-private owner), two days after it got a fresh APK/MOT (= Ministry of Transport test, mandatory to make it road legal again; previous APK/MOT dated 17 March 2023 - when our forum member @RuudE420 still owned it - was no longer valid).

As noted earlier: on Febr. 16, 2024 @RuudE420 had sold the car to Porsche Centrum Gelderland (a famous Dutch P-dealership). So, it now apparently changed hands to an unknown new owner (at an unknown price).

 

[195910]

(No affiliation)

Update: after the finalized recent auction (see above) the car seems to have been sold after all. According to public records, on 30 May 2024 the ownership changed (to a non-private owner), two days after it got a fresh APK/MOT (= Ministry of Transport test, mandatory to make it road legal again; previous APK/MOT dated 17 March 2023 (when our forum member @RuudE420 still owned it) was no longer valid). As noted earlier: on Febr. 16, 2024 @RuudE420 had sold the car to Porsche Centrum Gelderland (a famous Dutch P-dealership). So, it now apparently changed hands to an unknown new owner (at an unknown price).

Hi,

Do you have the contact details for the Porsche dealer? would like to contact them about the concours participation

 

[AdamCabrio]

Hi,

Do you have the contact details for the Porsche dealer? would like to contact them about the concours participation

Porsche Centrum Gelderland Click for contact details. The owner is Mark Wegh

 

[195910]

Porsche Centrum Gelderland Click for contact details. The owner is Mark Wegh

Thank you. As far as I know, the V12 500E is no longer in the Netherlands. Is there any other special W124.036 you know of in NL?

 

[AdamCabrio]

Thank you. As far as I know, the V12 500E is no longer in the Netherlands. Is there any other special W124.036 you know of in NL?

Hi, there are some in NL that might be of interest for potential concours participation. I would contact the following 4 sources:

1) Cor de Jong has (or used to have) a S124 (TE model) with 5 or 6 L engine. Contact details you find here: Mercedes-klassiekerservice Rossum | Rossum
2) In this Sneek/Friesland-collection there might be special 036's, he has this youtube channel (click for contact details): Benz Collector Sneek I believe he has a Hammer as well.
3) Douwe Leitner is a well-connected & highly respected Dutch MB-trader, he probably knows the whereabouts (in NL) of very special W124.036 models (for concours participation), click here for his contact details: Exclusieve en bijzondere auto’s | autoleitner.nl
4) Nico Ockhuisen might have some special (W124-)cars for concours participation, he has the largest MB-collection in the country, for contact details click here: The Collection - The "Ockhuisen" Mercedes-Benz Collection.

 

[195910]

@AdamCabrio
Thank you for your help Adam, appreciate it.

Most probably its going to be in the Western D/BENELUX Area, so be sure to attend!

 

[AdamCabrio]

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@WDB748372: just curious, how do you get to this interesting chronological listing of 958-coded productions? Is there a more comprehensive list hidden somewhere (on this forum?) or how did you produce it? As I'm currently in a research mode: what is the significance of the numbers in your first colum (8704 etc.)? And, more in particular: I would be very interested to learn the x (as in x/951) of another relatively early 958-coded example: WDB1240361C128569. As the order number for this one starts with "03", I suppose that it was already ordered in 1993 (by Auto Henne in Munich), and I already know that the ex-factory delivery date was April 19, 1994. I also already have the engine, getriebe & production number of this vehicle (from the data card), but the one piece of info missing is its ranking place in the x/951 list. Can you help out here?

 

[WDB748372]

just curious, how do you get to this interesting chronological listing of 958-coded productions? Is there a more comprehensive list hidden somewhere (on this forum?) or how did you produce it?

That's a spreadsheet I came up with.
I had a few computers scrape VIN decoder websites to find all VINs of whichever chassis I was researching. Once I had a list of VINs I then wrote another script that would get their respective datacards from WIS which allowed to save the datacards as a text file. This is key because for a computer to open and read thousands of text documents takes no time at all. So I wrote a program that would parse these text files using regular expressions which are patterns. Here is an example:

To find the paint code I should be looking for: Paint/code 1 .... (some 3 digit value)
To find any SA code I should be looking for some 3 digit value but there are so many therefore the pattern for that is a new line then a number followed by at least one space.

With that said the columns you see in my spreadsheet are ones that I parsed. Generally these were observable when looking at a car such as paint color, interior, a button indicating an option code like heated seats etc. My goal for this was to look at a car, filter through the spreadsheet, and find its VIN. Doesn't work as well for the 124 but I originally did this for the 210 chassis that has many options in the center console.


You'd be amazed how easily a car can be narrowed down that has paint X with interior Y with option A and B but not C or D etc. Here's a video of the spreadsheet filtering translated into a demo I made sometime back to scale this for other models.

what is the significance of the numbers in your first colum (8704 etc.)?

That's the row number for the spreadsheet. So that VIN would be 8,703rd vehicle out of the 10,479 (minus one because first row is the header). Another note is it could be 8,703 +/- 1 because there's this one VIN WDB12403612349251.

And, more in particular: I would be very interested to learn the x (as in x/951) of another relatively early 958-coded example: WDB1240361C128569. As the order number for this one starts with "03", I suppose that it was already ordered in 1993 (by Auto Henne in Munich), and I already know that the ex-factory delivery date was April 19, 1994. I also already have the engine, getriebe & production number of this vehicle (from the data card), but the one piece of info missing is its ranking place in the x/951 list. Can you help out here?

WDB1240361C128569 would be the 57th Limited (958) out of the 951.

 

[AdamCabrio]

@WDB748372: that is very interesting & helpful information, thank you so much!! You probably may have guessed that I can now say that I'm the owner of nr. 57/951