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Due to sentimental reasons I am updating my avatar. With some mixed feelings I sold my R129 last week so seeing the M120 every time I jump on the board is a bit depressing at the moment...
WTF? Has some kind of collective madness and suddenly gripped you people? You'll get forgiveness, but you sure as hell would not have gotten permission! How do you plan to stay "600" Eric? Hmmm?
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+ a gazillion!! What'd you do that for?!
Not what you want to hear, I know. But damn!!!...
maw
Yeah I know, like I said mixed emotions. The sale obviously put a big dent in my overall cylinder total, but I have had some other cars on my mind lately. Also with the 500E nearing completion the idea of having two cars sitting in captruff's stable covered up just started to lose it's appeal. That said I whatever I ultimately by next (it will be a Benz of course) will be something that I split time driving with the W210.
Yeah I know, like I said mixed emotions. The sale obviously put a big dent in my overall cylinder total, but I have had some other cars on my mind lately. Also with the 500E nearing completion the idea of having two cars sitting in captruff's stable covered up just started to lose it's appeal. That said I whatever I ultimately by next (it will be a Benz of course) will be something that I split time driving with the W210.
Indeed! It is damn near impossible to lose more cylinder count in a single transaction...
Eric, you should get a nice RENNtech SL74 to replace it (129.076, of course).
Now THAT'S thinkin' with your dipstick, Jimmy!
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Indeed! It is damn near impossible to lose more cylinder count in a single transaction...
Yeah, I've been trying to keep cylinder count out of my head. But in this company foursome, I can safely say "I'm failing miserably" without judgment. Something about that nimble dozen...
Pour out a li'l licka
maw
This would make a bitchin' avatar... ok, minus the funky GM banner up top, how did that sneak in there...?
Dammit, Gixxer! "Jimmy" was just a figure of speech! Sheesh. Where's Ron500E when we need him?
Indeed! It is damn near impossible to lose more cylinder count in a single transaction...
Hahaha very true. I am going to miss that M120, there's nothing like having 12 cylinders 48 valves.
Eric, you should get a nice RENNtech SL74 to replace it (129.076, of course).
That no doubt would be some serious fun as those 7.4's must just be beasts however I am leaning towards something AMG next
Hahaha very true. I am going to miss that M120, there's nothing like having 12 cylinders 48 valves.
That no doubt would be some serious fun as those 7.4's must just be beasts however I am leaning towards something AMG next
Well, the CL, SL, and S65 are AMG cars. You could right this wrong AND get your AMG car in one swell foop!
Well, the CL, SL, and S65 are AMG cars. You could right this wrong AND get your AMG car in one swell foop!
Well, the CL, SL, and S65 are AMG cars. You could right this wrong AND get your AMG car in one swell foop!
And my guess is you won't miss the extra valves per cylinder... My Audi has 5 and my AMG has 3, valves per cylinder. Can you guess which one I prefer?
But. Do. Not. Buy. A. 65. New, they cost too much. And old,...they cost too much.
Jokes.
maw
Yep although they do not get much love I hear a whole lot more positive things about M113's than I do bad. I have heard stories from guys that have seen them with what appear to have been a ton of very neglected miles but they just keep on going. Other than for the leaking valve cover gaskets I never had any problems whatsoever with any I had.
Um yeah as ridiculously fast and fun 65's are I'm not going down that road. Even though you can buy them used for a fraction of what they sold for new I've seen too many of those with the engines pulled out to replace the turbo oil cooler lines. No thanks...
Yeah but you already know the valve cover gaskets are an every 5 year, 50k mile thing. It's there for trans and abc fluid anyway, so no biggie. The turbo oil lines, transmissions, coil packs w/electronics, no thanks.
On the other hand, I get the sense this M113k will never stop. The car may fall apart (jokes) but the engine will keep running. On earlier year cars with some bodies, the car did fall apart (due to rust), but the engines remain a boon for parts yards.
Anyway, good luck with your replacement choice. But please don't leave us.
Cheers,
maw
On the other hand, I get the sense this M113k will never stop. The car may fall apart (jokes) but the engine will keep running. On earlier year cars with some bodies, the car did fall apart (due to rust), but the engines remain a boon for parts yards.
Anyway, good luck with your replacement choice. But please don't leave us.
Cheers,
maw
Due to sentimental reasons I am updating my avatar. With some mixed feelings I sold my R129 last week so seeing the M120 every time I jump on the board is a bit depressing at the moment...
Say it isn't so! The 600 is gone? That was about the nicest one I think I've ever seen. The humanity of it all!
Hahaha. I will definitely add you to the list. Speaking of the Diesel I did send an ECU last week to Speedtuning USA to have them install their Stage 2 Power Chip and EGR kill. The guy Oliver there claims that is good for another 60HP and 100NM of torque. That is a pretty big claim but it should be interesting...
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Eric, is that claim is for a W210.025 (98-99 E300 turbo)? Or for a W211 CDI?
W210.025 (OM606.962)
I too am a bit skeptical about those figures however there is no doubt in my mind that like many turbo diesels there is a lot of untapped power in that motor. Like I said I think it is a pretty big claim but I have done some research online and others with 210 turbo diesels that have done this upgrade have noted very significant gains in power. Anyways I am not sending them the ECU in my car. I found one in the UK on eBay that I bought for only $55 delivered. That being the case however I'm having to send it to Beckmann Technologies first to be unlocked but all in this experiment is only going to cost me about $700 which is really peanuts when you are talking about performance upgrades. Even if I only get 1/2 the power gains they claim that is still a smoking (no pun intended) bargain.
Here is their website:
http://www.speedtuningusa.com/about/spt_abt00.html
Here is their dyno chart for the OM606 TD:
I think a G63 AMG would be a logical next choice.
I'll tell you Gerry if I ever move out of SoCal I'm fairly certain a G Wagon will be added to my stable. However while I'm here I don't see it happening as I could not stand the thought of possibly being mistaken for a being one of those G*d D*mn Kardashians!
My math on their graph shows +45hp claimed (175-->220, approx) which is more realistic. However, even that is somewhat unlikely, especially with the low-BTU moose-piss diesel fuel we've been stuck with on most of the west coast for the past 10-15 years. The limiting factor is the small turbo on that engine, and the 6mm pump elements. Would be nice if you could put it on a dyno before & after. I'd expect 30-35hp gain, but you may notice a big difference in midrange torque, which is what most owners would rave about. Anything beyond 210hp (220hp with 'good' fuel) would require larger elements in the IP. I think you'll be happy with the upgrade, it just irks me when the vendors overpromise and underdeliver...
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My math on their graph shows +45hp claimed (175-->220, approx) which is more realistic. However, even that is somewhat unlikely, especially with the low-BTU moose-piss diesel fuel we've been stuck with on most of the west coast for the past 10-15 years. The limiting factor is the small turbo on that engine, and the 6mm pump elements. Would be nice if you could put it on a dyno before & after. I'd expect 30-35hp gain, but you may notice a big difference in midrange torque, which is what most owners would rave about. Anything beyond 210hp (220hp with 'good' fuel) would require larger elements in the IP. I think you'll be happy with the upgrade, it just irks me when the vendors overpromise and underdeliver...
Agreed. However as far as the dyno chart goes I should have pointed out that is just for the Stage 2 power chip. I'm not sure what adding the "EGR kill" option on top of that yields but obviously it is not going to hurt. Like you said the midrange gain is where the biggest difference will be noticed. In short I think this reprogramming probably just takes the shackles off the motor and let's it run to it's potential but regardless with the very reasonable cost I'm not really risking much here.
EGR defeat keeps the intake tract clean, but does nothing to increase power, and little if anything to boost MPG. I totally agree it is worth the upgrade, btw... if I owned one of these cars, I'd have done the upgrade shortly after purchase!
Will you be able to dyno it before & after? Or at least after? I'd love to see a DynoJet graph from a real-world car, not a computer-generated picture from the vendor.
Will you be able to dyno it before & after? Or at least after? I'd love to see a DynoJet graph from a real-world car, not a computer-generated picture from the vendor.
I don't think you're risking anything. I'd be looking at that, ceramic bearing turbos, headers and exhaust (whatever is applicable -- I haven't studied it). It seems to me the architecture is all there -- all you're doing is upgrading components, which all seem more or less readily available. Good luck.
Echo GSXR on the Dyno, please if you can.
maw
Alright you two settle down, this thing is my daily driver. I'm not going to be busting out the tin snips to cut a hole in my hood so I can bolt on some huge obnoxious turbo (admittedly as fun as that would be). As far as the dyno goes I'm not going to go out of my way to go find one however if I am ever somewhere where I get the opportunity to do so I will go ahead and throw it on there. In the interim I will just go with butt dyno figures.
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Awwww, you're no fun at all. ROTFL. I totally agree btw, this car would be a great DD, even better with the fuel maxed out via reflash. On the older diesels, we had to do it the hard way... take the IP apart and twiddle knobs & screws, and hope it worked right. Kids these days and their computers, sheesh... spoiled rotten. Don't even need tools!
Gerry would be proud. He's a big fan of the butt dyno!
Kids these days and their computers, sheesh... spoiled rotten. Don't even need tools!
That's right... choices abound. Like, I'm sure someone makes a ceramic bearing turbo these days that fits right where the old one does, and causes no trouble at'all. This kid is for a stealthy, stock look, all the time. I'm a bit older than the "selfie" generation, a bit too young for GSXR's "knobs and screws" (although I love to help Rex play with them).
;-D
maw
Update - I put the Speedtuning USA re-flashed ECU in the Diesel Friday on my way home from work. The whole process of swapping out the ECU's and SDS encoding might have taken 15 - 20 minutes at the most and the power gain is VERY noticeable (as is the amount of smoke it now emits when you put your foot in it). I don't think it would be possible to get more "bang for you buck" (pun intended).
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Update - I put the Speedtuning USA re-flashed ECU in the Diesel Friday on my way home from way. The whole process of swapping out the ECU's and SDS encoding might have taken 15 - 20 minutes at the most and the power gain is VERY noticeable (as is the amount of smoke it now emits when you put your foot in it). I don't think it would be possible to get more "bang for you buck" (pun intended).
Are you sure that wasn't the VW tune?
Hahaha.... No they were able to keep their shenanigans under wraps for about 6 years before they got caught. I wouldn't make it 6 seconds with AQMD Nazi's with the setup I'm running now.
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Update - I put the Speedtuning USA re-flashed ECU in the Diesel Friday on my way home from work. The whole process of swapping out the ECU's and SDS encoding might have taken 15 - 20 minutes at the most and the power gain is VERY noticeable (as is the amount of smoke it now emits when you put your foot in it). I don't think it would be possible to get more "bang for you buck" (pun intended).
Sheesh, from "600Eric" to "CoalRollerEric"
You tell me which sounds better.
Not that I don't like the 606T a lot, but still...
Sheesh, from "600Eric" to "CoalRollerEric"
You tell me which sounds better.
Ahh come on with all the Tesla's and Prius's we have running around here in California someone needs to keep it real.
PS: "CoalRollerEric" might be a bit harsh (I mean we are not talking China or India here) but since the M120 has indeed moved on I guess could live with 606Eric if need be....
Bah, even with a maxed out pump, the 606.96x doesn't roll much coal unless it was really carboned up. The car should feel a bit quicker than a stock 124.034 off the line, but not quite up to 124.036 levels. The turbo 606 has pretty nice low-end torque!
I am happy to change 600Eric's name to "CoalRollerEric."
Then we can let 400Eric back on the forum.
BTW, rolling coal is a daily thing down here in the Republic .... always nice to see guys smogging out Priii and Subarus at the traffic lights from their 12-inch-diameter coal-roller tailpipes ..... and it's Texas, so trust me, they LOVE doing it. Especially the guys who have the bull-balls hanging from their trailer hitches.
Then we can let 400Eric back on the forum.
BTW, rolling coal is a daily thing down here in the Republic .... always nice to see guys smogging out Priii and Subarus at the traffic lights from their 12-inch-diameter coal-roller tailpipes ..... and it's Texas, so trust me, they LOVE doing it. Especially the guys who have the bull-balls hanging from their trailer hitches.
