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FOR SALE FS: 1994 E500, Bornite/Black, 83kkm, £19k (UK)

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Interesting that the front, center arm rest is the non-flip style. Also I can’t be certain that the headlights are the correct E500 headlights.
 
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Hi,
Yes its mine im selling. Can you believe this is the car I was going to chop up for my 500TE project... But it turned out to be far too good.
Financially, it still would have been better to use this car for the project as the engine is super sweet.
I spent $$$ on rebuilding that other engine.

However I just couldnt do it to this car, its really nice.

They are non 500E lamps but otherwise its a very clean car.
 
Re: 500E in the UK video

Interesting that the front, center arm rest is the non-flip style.
Greg, I believe the flip-top armrest was standard on all USA-spec cars from 1993-up USA model year; and was in some 1992 models if ordered with a factory phone. However, a lot of Euro-spec cars did not get the phone option and therefore have the standard armrest. On the bright side, this is an easy item to upgrade, ditto for the headlights.

Jay, I think you would have been lynched if you had cut up this car to build the wagon! It's beautiful. What are you asking for it?

:apl:
 
Re: FS: 1994 E500, Bornite/Black, 83kkm (UK)

Beautiful car [emoji106]


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Re: FS: 1994 E500, Bornite/Black, 83kkm (UK)

I'm glad this can't be imported to USA for another couple years, or I'd be eyeing my retirement account...

:wormhole:
 
Re: FS: 1994 E500, Bornite/Black, 83kkm (UK)

I'm glad this can't be imported to USA for another couple years, or I'd be eyeing my retirement account...

:wormhole:

Depending upon the actual build month/year, it's possible it has a 93 build date, which means it could be 25 years old in just a few more months.

It would be interesting to find out what that build month/year is on this one. The classic center can tell you informally what it is based upon the vin...

And then there is that Mercedes group in the UK who will give your an official letter to prove the build date to US customs... just saying...

Start checking out your 401K, this could put a new meaning to "Minimum Required Distribution"... :-D
 
Dif import rules than my car from Canada ?


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No, same rules apply for the USA import of all non-USA build cars regardless of country being imported from.

To be exempt from import regulations, the car must be 25 years old for USDOT safety reg's, and 21 years old for EPA air pollution standards.

A 1994 car at first glance appears to be only 23 years old in 2017, thus not exempt. Upon closer investigation, if for example the 500 left the assembly line on June 1, 1993, it technically turns 25 years old in June of 2018. Hence my comment, In a few more months, it "could" be 25 years old.

The 92 Bornite 500 I imported was officially proven to be built on Nov. 10, 1991. Hence it was exempt from import regulations starting on Nov. 10, 2016.

The same principle applies to all USA imports. I recall reading your buy thread back in March 2017. I even posted in your thread asking you to describe your experience of the import process, I think your only reply was that you paid 2.5% duty. Since I recall yours was a 94, I couldn't understand how you got exempt status for a car that could not be 25 years old in early 2017. The more I explored the regulations and spoke with licensed import brokers, it appeared to me that you got very lucky at the time of import.

I was looking for a lot more detail, at the time I was in final negotiations for my Bornite 500 which was located in Dubai, and I didn't want luck to be a part of the import process, too much money involved when shipping by boat. I finally decided to hire an import broker to do the heavy lift, since mine was coming off a boat from a long distance away, there was no room for mistakes. As it turns out, for shipping by boat, the paperwork for importing needs to be completely filed before the car is loaded and the boat departs for the USA.

So all that applies to this 94 Bornite 500 in the UK, first month of eligibility for USA customs exempt status depends on the official build month/year. If it wasn't built until a 1994 date, then indeed it will be 2019 before it's 25 years old, but if it was built in 1993, then on a date in 2018 it will become 25 years old, and exempt from import regulations.

If I were looking to import this 500 into the USA, I would be tracking down the build date now. All it takes is the vin, and an email to Tom in the classic center. That's what started my purchase.. just saying...
 
From my recollection, without going back and reading the thread, Benz recieved a letter from MB stating the car met US standards.
 
Both canada and US cars have the "yellow" emission sticker that says it is compling with NORTH (Canada and USA)american standards
 
I don't recall that point, most collectable cars coming out of Canada were imported to Canada from Japan - Europe through their 15 year exemption rule.

But if that's the case, a 500E sold new in Canada with a letter from MB saying it met USA standards, doesn't need to meet the 25 year rule.

That's something to think about, are all E500E's built to the same safety and pollution standards? Will MB write a letter saying so?

If so you could import this 94 Bornite in the UK right now...
 
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Greg, I believe the flip-top armrest was standard on all USA-spec cars from 1993-up USA model year; and was in some 1992 models if ordered with a factory phone. However, a lot of Euro-spec cars did not get the phone option and therefore have the standard armrest. On the bright side, this is an easy item to upgrade, ditto for the headlights. Jay, I think you would have been lynched if you had cut up this car to build the wagon! It's beautiful. What are you asking for it? :apl:


My 1992 came with carphone but no flip-top armrest. So zero interior storage space. I can see why that would be a rare combo. And that proves that rare doesn't always equal desirable.
 
Nice looking car.
Sorry for my doubts, but leather inserts doesn´t look original to me... They must be smooth too, as outside parts, despite perforation.
 

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I don't recall that point, most collectable cars coming out of Canada were imported to Canada from Japan - Europe through their 15 year exemption rule.

But if that's the case, a 500E sold new in Canada with a letter from MB saying it met USA standards, doesn't need to meet the 25 year rule.
Canadian cars are a unique case. They meet USA emissions and have the same emissions decals as USA cars, and also have the same VIN format unique to USA and Canada. For almost any vehicle originally sold in Canada, if the same make/year/model was simultaneously sold in USA, the Canadian version can be imported to USA with moderate paperwork hassles... but the 25-year limit does not apply. This is why Benz was able to import the Canadian car.

Now, Japan cars imported to Canada are NOT eligible for this loophole, and still must meet the 25-year requirement for import to USA. The same applies for the UK Blackberry, which is not Canadian.

:tumble:
 
Nice looking car.
Sorry for my doubts, but leather inserts doesn´t look original to me... They must be smooth too, as outside parts, despite perforation.

Hi,
Yes, exactly what I thought... All those "wrinckles" do not seem original to me.
Furthermore :
- it has passenger airbag but no central glove box.
- it has no bass speakers in the front doors
- it has no rolling switch in the central console
- the lower part of the front doors carts only are from the velour seats cars not the leather seats cars
- it has no remote control door opener and the ignition key is a standart key but it has the led light on top of the central console
- I don't understand why the speedometer needle moves when the car starts
It's a good looking car but I think more investigations are needed here.
 
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- it has passenger airbag but no central glove box.
Well, it is not necessary that passenger Airbag and central Glovebox comes together, if you didn´t order central box it´ll not be there :D
Also someone removed it sometime ago, who knows. I might even see some prints box left on this soft cloth...VIN needed.


- it has no bass speakers in the front doors

You mean it has no speakers at all in the front doors? Well, no hifi was ordered, only 4 small speakers and radio unit.

- it has no rolling switch in the central console

It is restyle [facelift], only 90-92 90-93 had that switch.

- the lower part of the front doors carts only are from the velour seats cars not the leather seats cars

Saw it on S124 T modells, maybe doors were changed cause of rust, maybe factory option.

- it has no remote control door opener and the ignition key is a standart key but it has the led light on top of the central console

Lost original key?

- I don't understand why the speedometer needle moves when the car starts

I see Carlsson on it...who knows....:D
 
it has no remote control door opener and the ignition key is a standart key but it has the led light on top of the central console
If you mean the LED shown in the attached screenshot... that is part of the factory alarm which was standard as of 1993 (USA model year) / summer 1992 production. This is completely separate from the IRCL remote locking system, which was a separate option (and, sadly not offered in USA).

:gsxrock:
 

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I agree with Maui! If it were here, I would be heading for a test drive and figuring out how to build an addition to my garage!
 
Hi,
In France, in 1994, the central glove box was included as standart with the passenger airbag, just as the 12 speakers exquisit stereo, the IR remote doors lock and alarm (with the light on the drivers door and the trunk), the central console doors lock switch (in place of the rolling switch for the stereo of the previous years). My car is a 1994 model, 1994 year, and it has all those features, just as the rear roller blind ; that explains why I was a bit surprised.
About the lower door cards on this car, they are only at the front, not at the back ; strange....
 
I don't recall that point, most collectable cars coming out of Canada were imported to Canada from Japan - Europe through their 15 year exemption rule.

But if that's the case, a 500E sold new in Canada with a letter from MB saying it met USA standards, doesn't need to meet the 25 year rule.

That's something to think about, are all E500E's built to the same safety and pollution standards? Will MB write a letter saying so?

If so you could import this 94 Bornite in the UK right now...

It does not need to meet the 25 year mark as long as you get the letter from MB as I did.


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If you mean the LED shown in the attached screenshot... that is part of the factory alarm which was standard as of 1993 (USA model year) / summer 1992 production. This is completely separate from the IRCL remote locking system, which was a separate option (and, sadly not offered in USA).

:gsxrock:

I recently found my led button stuffed behind my radio unfortunately there is no where to mount it since I have the asr delete button.


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