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hi i was wondering due to the m119 4.2 having the same block as 5.0 and amg taking into 6.0 what mods have to be done and maybe rear mount turbos are a good idea. so i would love to know if any one has done it thank u
You can't turn a 4.2L block into a 6.0L. You must start with a 5.0L, closed-deck block and bore it to 100mm. Needs a stroker crank, modified rods, minor clearancing at the block, and custom pistons - at a minimum. Plan on ~$20k USD cost to build, and that may not include custom camshafts. Search the forum for more info. Almost nobody does this because (1) it's too much work, and (b) it's too much $$$ / €€€ / £££.
A couple of rear-mount turbos have been built with the 4.2L or 5.0L, but you'll need to convert to full standalone engine management (Megasquirt or similar).
If it were easy and cheap, everyone would have 6.0L's or turbos. It's neither, which is why you will find very few, if any.
i have time and do have a budget so yes what i can do is bore to 5liters than turbo charge it do know that all parts ill need and numbers.20k is not too bad i can deal with it
anyway i have to rebuild it so yes ill do that and custom piston part how am i going to do that its better to enigne swap it with a s500 w140 i mean there alot of it problem is that my car is a true amg it is pushing 475hp but i want moore powwwer than would be better just to tubro charge it
i have time and do have a budget so yes what i can do is bore to 5liters than turbo charge it do know that all parts ill need and numbers.20k is not too bad i can deal with it
anyway i have to rebuild it so yes ill do that and custom piston part how am i going to do that its better to enigne swap it with a s500 w140 i mean there alot of it
The 140-chassis M119 engines have a different oil pan, oil pump pickup, and exhaust manifolds. You can use an S500 engine block, but those parts will need to be swapped from the W124 4.2L engine.
@Kridre is correct. There are no kits. Everything is custom. If you have a 5-figure budget, pay RENNtech to build everything for you. They recently built a turbocharged 6.0L car (R129). The 415rwhp / 500hp at the crank is realistic. Contact them and ask what it would cost to duplicate that engine / turbo setup:
if where on the topic of engine swap what about a m113 5.0 it will need work but maybe ill find one or ill go for m156 cuz my engine is aging i dont think i really want it anymore so what do u recommend?
if where on the topic of engine swap what about a m113 5.0 it will need work but maybe ill find one or ill go for m156 cuz my engine is aging i dont think i really want it anymore so what do u recommend?
if where on the topic of engine swap what about a m113 5.0 it will need work but maybe ill find one or ill go for m156 cuz my engine is aging i dont think i really want it anymore so what do u recommend?
M113 has been done, there are photos of this elsewhere in the world... not worth it unless it's an AMG Kompressor engine. Haven't seen an M156 in a W124 yet, but I know a couple people were working on this. Either swap will be an order of magnitude more complex both mechanically (i.e., clearance for exhaust/steering/oil pan, fabricating transmission stuff) and electrically (figuring out both ECU and TCU).
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