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UGH that does suck. It doesn't take much to rebuild it, especially since it is just a few wires. You might even come up with a better connection to the starter this way.
 
UGH that does suck. It doesn't take much to rebuild it, especially since it is just a few wires. You might even come up with a better connection to the starter this way.
Assuming he's referring to the 500E... the harness is not NLA, but there are probably none sitting on the warehouse shelf. I think they are built on demand, and therefore might take an extra week before shipping out of Germany. Not worth rebuilding when it's still available new at a tolerable price.

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yeah i guess they do make it on demand...as they could not say delivery date..until i actually ordered one.

But its NOT reasonable price either...retail was approx 700 dollars...and my price was around 450/500 dollars..

well..ill see what i do...it would just be nice to fit a brand new original one..and not having to take it appart..spending many late hours ,,and putting it back together..as i need to have the car rolling..and i need to do it in one evening..But it seems that is gonna be what im actually going to do. DOH :)
 
Bummer..i reckon i will repair it,and maybe consider just taking a chance and ordering one..and close my eyes for the cost :)
 
just another picture update really.
Was out on a nice cruise here the other day,with my EvoLtwin :)The day started super nice with my mother making Waffles:)No waffles in the world come close to these.tastyyyy :)
Then it was off to work..and clean the car..and get ready for a nice drive.
And like usual i had to shoot some photos,I hope you like em :)









 
And here is another one:gsxracer:
Also went for a nice long cruiiiise in my Blackbeauty here the other day,and it begged to be taken some photos of:)Pretty happy with the result ,pretty cool lighting ,Ive just sharpend up the pics abit,so not much editing really.Thanx :)









 
well...here is my toasted lower engine harness.
I did some multitasking today...so abit confused of what to go ahead doing.:)
I started to repair the harness..but at the same time..my parts guy came to visit me in the garage..and i came to the conclusion that i just wanted to place an order on a new wiring harness..even though i AM repairing ..or HAVE repaired the harness that i have.But i think ill stick to my plan..and just go ahead and let my order go through..and get a new original one.

Anyways..here are some pictures.The harness is dated back to 91.so..oldie but not so goldie :)
It was pretty bad when i took it apart..so i kinda was super lucky dodging a bullet this time :)

The final repair.Pretty happy with the outcome...even though i wish i had some more proper "heat shielding " material...but it works fine as it is.I got to keep all of the heat shielding..but i had to use standard electrical tape to surround the old shielding i had to slice in two to separate the harness.But 90percent of the harness is AS it should be.

Here is some pictures of the finished repair. ALL 4 "smaller" wires replaced...used proper heatshrink,and soldered on the old pins to the new wires.


Thanx for looooking...NOW...lets eat waffles :)
 

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Just a little fun fact/info.
yes..my wiring harness is working perfect..but i did go ahead and order a new harness from mercedes.
And i have now gotten an estimated delivery date...21/9 2017....DOHHHH :)
 
And i have now gotten an estimated delivery date...21/9 2017....DOHHHH :)
What that tells me is that the harness is now being custom-made per order, and is not something that MB is stocking in their warehouse as they have done in the past.

Folks -- we are probably getting fairly close to a situation like they have with the 400E420s, where the lower harness will become "no longer available."

If you have not replaced both your UPPER and LOWER harnesses, you should do so now, while they are still available from the factory, and at decent prices. Seriously, this is a critical part and not one that you want to go without. Get these harnesses NOW !!
 
I will be starting an exhange service.Send in your broken deteroiated lower harness..and sending back a freshly rebuilt one :)


And yes..gerry...they are definetly making these on order i guess,My parts guy checked availability all over the world...and no dealer had them in stock anywhere.nor at the factory.
 
You and Jono are doing the harness rebuilding ... cool !!

The lower harness is considerably less complicated & time-consuming to rebuild.

At least MB still has them available ... for now. Which is why I admonish everyone to get them while they can. It's a once-in-an-ownership replacement.

LOWMANIA FOREVER !!!
 
hey people :)
Not 500e related this one...This is about my 190e 2.5-16--and its a video where i try to show you guys how to replace the fusebox in the w201,or rather some things to be aware of when replacing it.

I hope even you 036 people can find some enjoyment in watchin the video.
Greeetings from Stefan :)

 
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Final part of the little 2 part video series i did about the w201 Fusebox replacement.
Some tips n tricks shown here...that applies to the w124 fusebox also..but i reckon most of you know what the deal is :)
But anyways..i hope you like it ,,even though it is a w201 "video" :)

 
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So...people :)
Here is a little Blackbeauty update :)
With the event of shutting down the FM radio frequency network in Norway..and THE ONLY country in the world to do so...EVERY car or home"radio"..has to be upgraded or "Downgraded" to DAB+,,,to be able to listen to radio (if that is your thing though),,,i have finally mounted the DAB antenna on my car.As you might know...i bought myself this Continental "Retro" ...headunit for my car earlier..but i havent bothered mounting the antenna ,because i never listen to radio really...but i thought it was about time just getting it mounted
So here is a little step by step "guide",on how i mounted it on my car
I also got to replace the heater control panel,as the adjusting wheel on the driver side had an internal fault ,which made it NOT "Click" proper when turning it all the way to either hot or cold.Also replaced all bulbs in there at the same time :)
I hope you like the pics
Take off A pillar panel,you need to be carefull not breaking it..and you will have to kinda drag it towards you when sitting in the seat..as the clips are mounted in an Angle...



Here you can see the clip...and it has this "downward" angle to it.There are TWO clips holding the panel



Backside of the panel



DAB antenna going in the car



Took out the passenger airbag to guide the antenna wire in a proper manner..and not just fastening it on the underside of the dashboard
The passenger airbag is fastened with a ten mm head ,on the underside of the dashboard,You will need a long extention and a 10mm socket..you will see the hole on the underside of the dash when looking under there..i did unfortunatly not get a picture of that.



The Dab antenna mounted,and the wire is of course now hidden behind the A pillar cover





Here it is finished.With "Dab" feature,tuned in on the proper radio station :)





Also a little "shot" of the heater control panel which i replaced.AND a final picture of my two "Stars" :)








Thanx for looking :)
 
Stephan,

So for what reason did Norway shut down the country's FM system? That seems ODD to me since it I think FM offers the best radio frequencies.

What does DAB+ stand for? Does it work as good as FM? Sounds like a way for some businesses to make money thru obsolescence to me.
 
Which DAB unit did you get? I need to fit one to the daily driver since we go to Norway a couple of times each year. It was awfully quiet in Trøndelag this summer.
 
Stephan,

So for what reason did Norway shut down the country's FM system? That seems ODD to me since it I think FM offers the best radio frequencies.

What does DAB+ stand for? Does it work as good as FM? Sounds like a way for some businesses to make money thru obsolescence to me.

To be fair..im not sure what the REAL reason is..it is mainly a political thing i guess..There has been alot of resistance against this DAB thing.Especially in the "country sides"of Norway...where there are alot of mountains...the DAB radio has proven to be pretty poor..and as a result...at an earlier stage..there was very much a low understanding of WHY the "goverment" would do this..and shut down the FM radio network..and introduce an old system like the DAB.
DAB stands for Digital Audio Broadcasting.,,and it is indeed a very old "high tech" way of transmitting radio signals.And DAB+ is the "latest" type...which is "better" than DAB....but still has proven to be not as good as FM....where FM can transmitt signals even when there is poor connection..the DAB+ just cuts out..and the emergency section (fire and ambulance and police)has been very concerned about the FM network beeing shut down.....because of important radio transmissions MAY not be AVAILABLE for the whole population...because of geographic reasons(Mountains/poor network of "DAB sender stations" in a way .

I like to see it PURELY AND MAINLY as a "Buisness" thing...that the shutting down of the FM network has actually happend.
 
Which DAB unit did you get? I need to fit one to the daily driver since we go to Norway a couple of times each year. It was awfully quiet in Trøndelag this summer.

yeah mate...they closed of the FM transmissions up north first....now the shutting down of the fm network has reached the southern part of the norway...and at the end of september...all over norway..there are NO FM ,,exept for SOME local radio stations...if i have understood it correctly.

the headunit i purchased. is a continental cdd7418-UB OR
it does feature Bluetooth,Dab+,USB port in the front,Cd player,and the lovely orange lighting :)it is not a very good "stereo" in the sense that a car audio freak would love it...there are not many line outs..n stuff...but then again..im no expert
But for my use..it is indeed perfect :)
 
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Ah then I understand, you have dab in your head unit. I think I'll find something similar but 2 din for the Toyota. Cheers buddy!

That Continental looks nice!
 
hehehe i dont know mate...to be honest..i bought them to put them on my 190e 2.5-16 Aka the EvoLtwin...but they came with bigger tires to fit SL r129 and 036...so i had to try them on..
But no..i just got 1 set of wheels for the car..but i HAVE had 3 sets on the car...or...evo2 when i got it..then 18 inch monoblocks..and currently the 3piece Amg Aeros,,,and im considering selling the 3piece Amg"s...dont ask why .hehe
 
to be honest..im to afraid driving around on those wheels...afraid of poor roads...afraid of scraping them on some curb...but they do look awesome.but "feels" just to fragile..but i guess its all in the mind :)
 
Understandable, I'm sure whatever you decide to go with next will be nice either way.. Quick question off topic, hopefully you can answer. Is it possible to replace the US type AC controls in my car with the round knob euro style like yours? Looks like there's more fan speed options on the euro controls. Is that correct?
 
Understandable, I'm sure whatever you decide to go with next will be nice either way.. Quick question off topic, hopefully you can answer. Is it possible to replace the US type AC controls in my car with the round knob euro style like yours? Looks like there's more fan speed options on the euro controls. Is that correct?
The automatic (ACC) and manual (MCC) systems are completely different. It's possible to retrofit but requires an enormous amount of items changed, including the entire heater box / condenser, converting from monovalve to duovalve, all new wiring harness, etc... probably 50-75 hours labor not including parts.

I also would love MCC but sadly back in the 80's MBNA decided that people who live in North America should not have the option to choose MCC.

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thank you so much mister :)
Im not sure about the euro vent buttons VS the US (Full auto AC) system.
But is it correct that the "US" (Full auto AC) has only ONE fan speed? either on or off?
 
But is it correct that the "US" (Full auto AC) has only ONE fan speed? either on or off?
We have three settings. Max fan speed, auto fan speed, and minimum fan speed.

The problem is, many times we just want "medium" and that's not an option!

:oldman:
 
The automatic (ACC) and manual (MCC) systems are completely different. It's possible to retrofit but requires an enormous amount of items changed, including the entire heater box / condenser, converting from monovalve to duovalve, all new wiring harness, etc... probably 50-75 hours labor not including parts.

I also would love MCC but sadly back in the 80's MBNA decided that people who live in North America should not have the option to choose MCC.

:runexe:

That's what I figured. Sure would be nice to have more fan speeds. I only have low/high, even on AUTO its always on high. Appreciate the info.
 
No problem, I enjoy all of your videos BTW!

Thank you soo much again ..i apreaciate that very much :)

Yeah like GSXR said...i could easily see that it would take quite alot of different parts..to change up the system.

The "manual" system is "standard" in the european ones...and we rarely see the Automatic versions.The manual version is very nice indeed..with all the settings you can see in the picture..4 different fan speeds..and OFF...
Thanx :)
 
That's what I figured. Sure would be nice to have more fan speeds. I only have low/high, even on AUTO its always on high. Appreciate the info.
Auto will adjust to a variable medium speed based on cabin temperature. This generally requires fiddling with the temp dial and waiting patiently. In summer with AC on, it helps to aim one of the center vents upward to the sensor by the overhead dome light. And you may need to adjust the temp setting closer to the middle even if you want hot or cold air. All of which is why we want the MCC setup with manual speed selection!

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Thank you soo much again ..i apreaciate that very much :)

Yeah like GSXR said...i could easily see that it would take quite alot of different parts..to change up the system.

The "manual" system is "standard" in the european ones...and we rarely see the Automatic versions.The manual version is very nice indeed..with all the settings you can see in the picture..4 different fan speeds..and OFF...
Thanx :)

And one should not forget about the dual zones... They are the bees knees when the wife is with me in the car, no bickering about the temperature in the car. It's called civilization folks. :D

Don't know if it's on facelift cars only, but there's also one "hidden" setting between the "I" and "0" on the manual klimaanlage. On that setting the fan is off, but the system is open, so you get some circulation at speed. In the "0" position the HVAC system is closed. This basically gives you five different levels of airflow into the HVAC.

Here's a picture of the dot where this position is, you can feel it when you're operating the fan control:

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Don't know if it's on facelift cars only, but there's also one "hidden" setting between the "I" and "0" on the manual klimaanlage. On that setting the fan is off, but the system is open, so you get some circulation at speed. In the "0" position the HVAC system is closed. This basically gives you five different levels of airflow into the HVAC.

Here's a picture of the dot where this position is, you can feel it when you're operating the fan control:

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THIS. This is the one thing I wish the stupid US-standard automatic climate control systems have ----- an in between setting with no fan but allows for outside air to circulate in.
 
THIS. This is the one thing I wish the stupid US-standard automatic climate control systems have ----- an in between setting with no fan but allows for outside air to circulate in.

Yea in my part of the world, southern Sweden, the car climate doesn't require that much moderation (in any car).

It just needs a nudge in the right direction, so I quite often have the settings on my klima to that spot with no fan, and either ventilation set on "between feet and window" or all front outlets. I always have the temp rolls set to 22 degrees Celsius. When it needs an adjustment, I turn the fan speed to either "I" or "II". The "III" or "IIII" I very rarely use, maybe if the cars been parked in the sun, or one of these rare days when we have really hot weather. And, I use the dehumidification button a lot, because of the damp climate, and the fact that I don't daily drive it, so it usually needs to be dried out interior wise.
But really, there's not that much adjustment needed with the manual klima.

Sorry for the hijacking lowman!
 
THIS. This is the one thing I wish the stupid US-standard automatic climate control systems have ----- an in between setting with no fan but allows for outside air to circulate in.

I guess this should be an issue of it's own and Another thread. I have a fully functioning automatic AC and enjoy it fully. I Think many did not read the
instructions OR understood the function of the settings. I do not understand, really, the complaint here...
 

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