New wheels needed

[EDMB500]

Guys, need a bit of help please

I’ve found that the front wheels of my recently acquired e500 appear to be bent. Guys put it on the balancing machine and it has a wobble
I’ve taken it to a local wheel repair shop and they said if they try to repair it will not be perfect and not worth trying as they are forged wheels

so I need to find replacements - I’m entering a new world again here and don’t know what offsets etc I should be looking for. Can you point me in the right direction?

I think I’d like to stick to the 18’’ rim size as I got new tyres for these ones and the current sizes are 18 x 8.5J and offset is +23 - I don’t know if this correct for my car but is what was on it. these are speed star Colin brand (japanese made)

 

[Ntrepid]

Have you talked to Wheel Collision Center in Bath, PA? www.wheelcollision.com

They have a patented process to restore a bent rim to 1/10,000th of an inch from factory specifications. Might be worth the investment as you keep the wheels you like and probably less than finding a set of four you like/want.

They also do a fantastic job at refinishing.


Robert

 

[skikrazey]

Wheel Collision is the best! Have used them for over 20 years.

 

[gsxr]

I've never even seen those replicas before, so it may be difficult (or impossible) to locate a good used one. And, used wheels are almost always bent - just depends how much they are bent. A very minor bend (less than 1mm radial or axial) MAY be acceptable if the wheel balances OK bare, and will Road Force balance under the 26-lb limit with a tire mounted. MB does not publish specs for wheel runout alone, only a spec for wheel+tire together, max 2mm, IIRC? It's in the FSM somewhere.

Anyway - either you need to find a shop capable of repairing that specific wheel to keep your set together (and, you might need to have all four refinished so they all look the same)... OR, buy a completely different set of 18" wheels that you like. Unless the Colins are featherweight or something (like, around 10kg each) I'd probably look for different wheels.

 

[EDMB500]

Have you talked to Wheel Collision Center in Bath, PA? www.wheelcollision.com

They have a patented process to restore a bent rim to 1/10,000th of an inch from factory specifications. Might be worth the investment as you keep the wheels you like and probably less than finding a set of four you like/want.

They also do a fantastic job at refinishing.


Robert

thank you for the suggestion, unfortunately I am not in the USA and we have limited choice here

 

[EDMB500]

I've never even seen those replicas before, so it may be difficult (or impossible) to locate a good used one. And, used wheels are almost always bent - just depends how much they are bent. A very minor bend (less than 1mm radial or axial) MAY be acceptable if the wheel balances OK bare, and will Road Force balance under the 26-lb limit with a tire mounted. MB does not publish specs for wheel runout alone, only a spec for wheel+tire together, max 2mm, IIRC? It's in the FSM somewhere.

Anyway - either you need to find a shop capable of repairing that specific wheel to keep your set together (and, you might need to have all four refinished so they all look the same)... OR, buy a completely different set of 18" wheels that you like. Unless the Colins are featherweight or something (like, around 10kg each) I'd probably look for different wheels.

I am thinking the same. It looks like a different set will be the way to go.

how do I learn what offset is required? I’ve been reading a few different things and seeing people suggest various set ups.

 

[outrbnks]

Factory wheels are 8x16et34 which is a starting point, the wheel wells are forgiving enough for the classic 3 piece OZ Aero's, which are 8.5x17et18 and 10x17et17. Very common wheels used are the E55-W210/R129 Mono II wheels @ 8x18et31 & 9x18et35, I think almost all R129 wheels will fit.

In general ET should be no higher than the mid 30's, and as low as the upper teens

What styles are you looking for? here is a link to R129 wheels, just to look for style likes or not;

Mercedes SL Class Alloys (R129) - Alloy Wheels Direct

Buy some new Mercedes SL Class wheels. Visit Alloy Wheels Direct for genuine Mercedes & aftermarket alloys to fit your SL Class R129 - In Stock.

www.alloywheelsdirect.net

Good luck

 

[gsxr]

Keep in mind that acceptable ET range varies with wheel width. The wider the wheel, the narrower the ET range. First decide what width you want, then you can determine the ET. As mentioned above, all R129 wheels fit perfectly.

 

[Dunnik]

Any of the wheels mentioned above by outrbnks would a) fit and b) look great, and there's probably decent chance you can find one or more out there. Good luck in your search!

 

[maw1124]

I am thinking the same. It looks like a different set will be the way to go.

how do I learn what offset is required? I’ve been reading a few different things and seeing people suggest various set ups.

18x8.5, 35ET is fine with no spacers, all around. If you want to go wider out back (9.5, ET32). If you want to go 19”, someone else will need to weigh in. But use your search feature, as we’ve beat the wheels horse to near death.

Also, someone may have some 17” or 18” for sale right now.

GL

maw

 

[EDMB500]

Thanks everyone - the hunt continues

 

[EDMB500]

Can anyone tell me the approx weight in kg or lbs of the genuine mercedes amg monoblock wheels, 18 x 8J and 18 x 9J?

I need to price shipping

thanks

 

[sheward]

18x9j = 29.6lbs.

drew

 

[gsxr]

Remember to add extra weight for the box and packing material.

 

[outrbnks]

Can anyone tell me the approx weight in kg or lbs of the genuine Mercedes AMG mono-block II wheels, 18 x 8J and 18 x 9J?

I need to price shipping

thanks

Good choice, the E55 wheels will look good on your E500...

If your picking up a staggered set of 8's & 9's, when you get tires, the tire sizes should be Fronts - 245/40R18; Rears 275/35R18; which works out to 25.7" tire diameter for the fronts and 25.6" tire diameter for the rears. Perfect sizes for E500E's and R129's both.

Congratulations again on you new purchases and good Luck ... O

 

[EDMB500]

So my heart is set on the 18’’ monoblocks. I’m talking to someone currently to see what I can make work as there is nothing local to me

As an interim measure, I know someone selling a set of these A1704011402 they are 7.5 x 17 ET 37 front and 8.5 x 17 ET 30 rear. From the SLK and C class. Do these sound like they will fit? Obviously smaller in both width and dia which I’m thinking will not give the same wide rude boy stance which I like but the offsets seem to be in the range
Thanks everyone

 

[outrbnks]

Almost anything will fit, including these, but the smaller widths and higher front et will not be visually appealing. You'll want the 18's to fill out the wheel wells and give the car a good looking stance. I would avoid the 17" SLK wheels, you'll just have to sell them off when you realize there are better choices. Stick with wheels that are R129 sized, just my 2 cents...

 

[gsxr]

As an interim measure, I know someone selling a set of these A1704011402 they are 7.5 x 17 ET 37 front and 8.5 x 17 ET 30 rear. From the SLK and C class. Do these sound like they will fit? Obviously smaller in both width and dia which I’m thinking will not give the same wide rude boy stance which I like but the offsets seem to be in the range

Ditto what Outrbnks said. They will fit, but will look a bit funny due to the narrow width, particularly the front will be tucked in noticeably. But they will get you back on the road until you can find Monoblocks. If you could find something else (wider) as temporary wheels that would be preferable, but if you don't have many options locally...

 

[EDMB500]

Yeah guys, this is exactly what I thought the issues would be

I am currently a bit stuck for options unfortunately

there is a set of 19’’ monoblocks which have come up (W140) but I am reading that putting 19s on has its own issues too so that seems a no go. Plus the front ET on these is 46 which I think will not work

thank you for all your help and advice

 

[maw1124]

Keep in mind the most aggressive stock fitment available was 17" by I believe 8-ish" for the EVO II. GSXR check my math here. Not a rude boy by any sense, but perfectly at home on the car, IMO.

I went with 18", but if the right pair of Evo II came along I would not hesitate to go with 17" for a slightly less harsh ride.

I wouldn't hesitate to put that 17" AMG wheel on my car for fitment reasons. What would really work is a square setup using rears only of that wheel.

maw

 

[gerryvz]

NO E500E ever came from the factory with a wheel diameter larger than 17" ... and this was ONLY the E500 Limited. ALL other production E500Es came with the 16" 8-hole wheels used with the R129/E500E.

AMG modified cars (which I wouldn't consider factory production) may have had larger/different wheels added.

 

[r44raven]

Just my 2 cents worth (or maybe 2 pennies worth, as I'm in the UK!) .............

I'm running 9" x 18" monoblocks (sorry, can't remember the ET at the mo, but I have to use 12mm spacers) - with 245/40 front and 275/35 rear. (They are not a staggered set - the smaller tyres are needed on the front to stop the tyres fouling the suspension strut).

With this setup, I have to admit that the ride is only just the right side of "harsh". BUT ...... it does lead to (what I think) is more positive handling - what I mean by this is when you point the car in any direction, it goes there with very little understeer! And grip in the wet is exceptional.

I'm sure there will come a time when I want a better ride, and so I have a set of 8.25" x 17" EVO IIs stashed away in my garage for when that day comes!

Meanwhile, I'm beating up the country roads over here!

 

[gsxr]

Keep in mind that the 036 either came from the factory with 8.0" wide wheels, or 8.25" wide (Evos). Nothing else. Now, AMG aftermarket did offer wider 036 wheel setups, but not narrower.

In general you want to keep that 8.0" minimum width for a long-term wheel combo. For a temporary setup, anything that clears the brake calipers will be ok, for normal street use.

 

[EDMB500]

And just like that the tides have turned. By chance I was speaking to a guy last night and he said he knew someone with a set. These are now in my ownership.
Absolutely delighted - should I be this excited over a set of wheels?!

thanks to everyone for your advice as always

 

[gerryvz]

Yes, you definitely should be excited over those wheels, Eazy !

 

[Dunnik]

Awesome!

 

[Gatorblue92]

So my heart is set on the 18’’ monoblocks. I’m talking to someone currently to see what I can make work as there is nothing local to me

As an interim measure, I know someone selling a set of these A1704011402 they are 7.5 x 17 ET 37 front and 8.5 x 17 ET 30 rear. From the SLK and C class. Do these sound like they will fit? Obviously smaller in both width and dia which I’m thinking will not give the same wide rude boy stance which I like but the offsets seem to be in the range
Thanks everyone

I know you already found a set but the 17's from the W202 AMG in the spec you mentioned above are what I've been running on my last few W124's. I had them on my former 5 speed swapped 300TE and now on my new E420. They are prefect on those cars but wouldn't look quite right on the 036 with the wider fenders.

 

[msq]

I know you already found a set but the 17's from the W202 AMG in the spec you mentioned above are what I've been running on my last few W124's. I had them on my former 5 speed swapped 300TE and now on my new E420. They are prefect on those cars but wouldn't look quite right on the 036 with the wider fenders.

I think the 17" Monoblocks look great on your E420.

Regarding the 17" AMG wheels. They also look fine on the 036. They were ordered with my car when new as part of the original sales order, as you know most E60's that were ordered as new (factory AMG conversions) had the AMG wheels would have been the multi piece AMG wheels, but the original owner of my car ordered the 17" Monoblocks instead when he ordered the car (I have copy of original Bill of Sale), which were quite unusual. My car was ordered as a '94 MY and built in 2nd half of '93, so I suspect these kind of wheels had just become available due to C36.
In any case, I think they look fine on the 036. Enclosed is picture of my car at Jonathan's place (Blue Ridge) with the 17" Monoblocks that it originally came with.
I have driven my car with the original 17" Monoblocks in the picture and with 18" wheels and as expected, the 17" wheels give a smoother ride.

 

[chefdan]

So my heart is set on the 18’’ monoblocks. I’m talking to someone currently to see what I can make work as there is nothing local to me

As an interim measure, I know someone selling a set of these A1704011402 they are 7.5 x 17 ET 37 front and 8.5 x 17 ET 30 rear. From the SLK and C class. Do these sound like they will fit? Obviously smaller in both width and dia which I’m thinking will not give the same wide rude boy stance which I like but the offsets seem to be in the range
Thanks everyone

thank you for the suggestion, unfortunately I am not in the USA and we have limited choice here

Are you still looking for rims and tires. I have a brand new set of OEM Set for 500e/e500 or I also have a set of mono blocks