SOLD SOLD: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $49k (North Carolina)

[gsxr]

Re: FS: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $55k (North Carolina)

I cannot understand how this car is still on the market. Is Oct/Nov a bad time to sell cars or something?

Maybe it's because people don't understand what it's like to drive an 036 with 6L powerplant. Having owned several, believe me when I say it's worth it...

 

[portiadog1]

Re: FS: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $55k (North Carolina)

I cannot understand how this car is still on the market. Is Oct/Nov a bad time to sell cars or something?

Maybe it's because people don't understand what it's like to drive an 036 with 6L powerplant. Having owned several, believe me when I say it's worth it...

Thanks GSXR! I'm a little baffled as well, but I am obviously biased.

 

[195910]

Re: FS: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $55k (North Carolina)

This still on the market?!

What's wrong with people!

should I do a video about how a 6.x 124036 pulls at part throttle from 100mph ?

 

[sheward]

Re: FS: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $55k (North Carolina)

I think timing is mostly at play. It was recently mentioned in another post that now is a typically slow time for automotive sales. Holidays and cold weather turn peoples attention elsewhere. It makes me anxious to look at this bargain.

drew

 

[FD.]

Re: FS: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $49k (North Carolina)

Sorry, it seems to me there are two main reasons which stop potential buyers.

1. It is a typical swap, not an original E60 AMG - no code 957 in VIN, no history from the factory.
You need to catch the buyer who considers this car not as a future investment but as the Dreamauto = 500E with the best possible engine.

2. The picture selection for Ebay page is really really poor.
- very limited number of photos
- photo with some rusty? part of new engine
- the weird looking steering wheel
- the weird looking gear knob - not mathing other wood panels
- replica wheels in the description

All these small parts may be Ok for $15к 500E, but for $50k AMG 6.0... I am not sure.

GLWS!

 

[jhodg5ck]

Re: FS: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $49k (North Carolina)

Sorry, it seems to me there are two main reasons which stop potential buyers.

1. It is a typical swap, not an original E60 AMG - no code 957 in VIN, no history from the factory.
You need to catch the buyer who considers this car not as a future investment but as the Dreamauto = 500E with the best possible engine.

2. The picture selection for Ebay page is really really poor.
- very limited number of photos
- photo with some rusty? part of new engine
- the weird looking steering wheel
- the weird looking gear knob - not mathing other wood panels
- replica wheels in the description

All these small parts may be Ok for $15к 500E, but for $50k AMG 6.0... I am not sure.

GLWS!

Of course it's not an original E60. He's asking 50G, not 150.

The engine is a factory New, a drop in ready AMG E60 engine, when it showed up it was Christmas/Hanukkah/and Festivus all wrapped into one glorious moment. My foreman and I EF'd that engine for over an hour when it was still in the crate.

Steering wheels and shifters take what...an hour or two if you move Slow to change...and that's just personal preference stuff.

I'll comment Again on those replica wheels, once i got a set I was floored at the caliber and quality of them. SO far superior to the originals, lighter, stronger, better built...and I was Really not a fan to start but I came around and was rather bummed when the fellow stopped making it.

Does the advertisement need some work, sure. I'll have to dig in my photos and see if I can find my galleries.

jono

 

[sheward]

Re: FS: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $49k (North Carolina)

Those are two valid points. The mods on the car are not ones that I would choose and the fact that it is not a "real" E60 will likely scare off many traders and dealers as well. This is not a good time to sell cars and the above average number of 036s presently listed without sales recently bears this out and hurts this offering. I believe this car will sell for or above the asking price easily in the near future barring a bad economic meltdown. Blue Ridge Mercedes nearly rebuilt this entire car to a level beyond what many of the low mileage 5L cars on the market can claim for the same price and you get 6L of power to boot. I doubt this car will go to an investment buyer. For an enthusiast, like me, this is still one of the best buys I've seen on any 036. You simply cannot recreate this for the money.

drew

 

[jhodg5ck]

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What I could find quick on my computer.

 

[2phast]

Re: FS: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $49k (North Carolina)

The shift knob is a trivial item, which can be swapped out quickly and inexpensively. The aftermarket wheel appears to be thicker and more ergonomic, which is good but it is common with these eastern European companies to use leather that has a hue similar to anthracite and not an actual black, which is what I see in the pictures. Again, thats an easy fix if you want the OE wheel.

The aftermarket AMG's would be iffy in my book, as most are cheaply made and some even dangerous. TUV approval is probably non existent as well. BUT, if Jono says these are "good to go" then I wouldn't worry too much about them. Although, 17" wheels just look too small on the 500e, especially when they are multi piece wheels, they look even smaller. Just my 02.

On the topic of price, well, chances are slim your going to find a true E60 at that price, maybe a AMG of Japan car, but you would have to find it and import once it hits 25 years old. Once it arrives via a re-seller, the price skyrockets, so don't expect to find one where someone else has already done the leg work (cheap that is)

The lack of enthusiastic buyers does say the issue most likely lies with the asking price. No doubt there is at least 50k invested in this project, but a large investment of money into a otherwise, somewhat common 500e, does not guarantee you can recoup your costs. This is quite common though on any normal car that the owner takes to the next level. I have seen 100k show cars sell for a quarter of the build price, not due to lack of quality by any means, its just not a appreciating asset like rare collectible cars.

 

[gsxr]

Re: FS: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $49k (North Carolina)

Sorry, it seems to me there are two main reasons which stop potential buyers.

1. It is a typical swap, not an original E60 AMG - no code 957 in VIN, no history from the factory.
You need to catch the buyer who considers this car not as a future investment but as the Dreamauto = 500E with the best possible engine.

2. The picture selection for Ebay page is really really poor.
- very limited number of photos
- photo with some rusty? part of new engine
- the weird looking steering wheel
- the weird looking gear knob - not mathing other wood panels
- replica wheels in the description

All these small parts may be Ok for $15к 500E, but for $50k AMG 6.0... I am not sure.

As mentioned above, code-957 cars in less-than-perfect condition are already north of $100k. The asking price is quite realistic compared to the 957's, IMO. The wheels, shift knob, etc are all picking nits. Don't like them? Replace with whatever floats your boat. And let's not forget that in the current market, a $15k 500E is either a very nice parts car, or a high-mile fixer-upper.

I don't think people understand that engine is NOS and hand-crafted from pure unobtanium. Nor have they driven any 6L M119 to understand the substantially different driving experience.

 

[bb1]

Re: FS: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $49k (North Carolina)

Same Story again...(AMG 17“ Replica) nobody wants to Pay, bitching here and there about little things! AND everything is anyway toooooo expensive!! Find something better... for less? Good Luck!

 

[jhodg5ck]

Re: FS: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $49k (North Carolina)

Same Story again...(AMG 17“ Replica) nobody wants to Pay, bitching here and there about little things! AND everything is anyway toooooo expensive!! Find something better... for less? Good Luck!

Oh, there isn't better...not that I have seen!
Having had them in my hand and looking them over closely we were all VERY impressed!!! Damn fine wheels, beautifully made and assembled. Nicely done Sir.

 

[Melville]

Re: FS: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $49k (North Carolina)

If I could take what I paid for my car, plus what I've put into it since buying it, plus a little extra, I would be after this car so fast it would be...well...as fast as a 6.0L M119 can drive.

I do understand why some might not want this car. Many collectors only want a "real" AMG. Others, who might just want a fast car, can go faster for cheaper.

I'm not among those people. As far as cars go, I love the W124 above all others. And a faster W124 than the "fastest" (i.e. 036) W124? Sign me up!

 

[Klink]

Re: FS: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $49k (North Carolina)

That motor, though!

 

[Eno]

Re: FS: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $49k (North Carolina)

This is a car to enjoy driving fast, overtake fast, hit the corners fast and floor it, and feel the torque in high speeds.
Wheels and shift knobs are always different tastes on different people.

As long as you know that you are flooring an E60 M119 engine maintained with the best fully synthetic oil and “breaking” the engine properly, this all that matters.

This is not a collectors car, the kickdown switch must be activated very often to feel the adrenaline [emoji3]


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[gsxr]

Re: FS: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $49k (North Carolina)

This is not a collectors car, the kickdown switch must be activated very often to feel the adrenaline [emoji3]

Exactly. This isn't a collector's item, nor is it an investment. It's an awesome car, in a rare color, in fantastic condition, to be driven and enjoyed.

Maybe portiadog will see the light and keep it!

 

[195910]

Re: FS: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $49k (North Carolina)

I disagree gentlemen, Isn't a 6L 500E in the US more rare than a Porsche 959 ?

Yes its not a documented 1 of 126 factory E60 AMG, but then these are at least +150,000USD in Europe.

Unfortunately I have no garage space for more W124s

 

[portiadog1]

Re: FS: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $49k (North Carolina)

Exactly. This isn't a collector's item, nor is it an investment. It's an awesome car, in a rare color, in fantastic condition, to be driven and enjoyed.

Maybe portiadog will see the light and keep it!

I'm definitely not in a rush and I'm definitely not going to "puke it". Maybe it will just end up sticking around in that case.

 

[msq]

Re: FS: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $49k (North Carolina)

As mentioned above, code-957 cars in less-than-perfect condition are already north of $100k.

Agreed, for sure. I spent over 3+ years (now over 4 I guess) looking at and digging into various E60's and any half way decent 957 codes all were well north of $100K, and most had little/no history. Also most/all of the aftermarket E60's for sale, that had lower mileage (under 100K miles say) and little history are also well over $100K. There were some other rare ones that were built/converted as new E60's (without 957 code) with full documentation from Mercedes that were also well over $100K.
(More on this whole topic later when I get a chance)

The engine in this car is unobtainable. It was put in this car as a *brand new* E60 engine (I am not sure how many miles on the engine now). I don't think you can obtain a new E60 engine from anyone right now, unless someone hoarded a few when they were available, and is planning to sell at some point. Regarding the earlier comment on the wheels, if these were the wheels that were made by the guy in Germany who was offering them to members on this board at one point, and they were good enough for Jonathan, I would be happy with them. I definitely would have considered buying wheels from the guy who made them and offered them here.
Since this is basically a Jonathan build I would have a lot of confidence in this car.

I think sometimes it just comes down to presentation - for those who are not into the black wheels and blacked out grill and are worried about things like the shift knob - all of which are really easy changes to make, maybe that does not make this car as attractive to them? If that were me I would simply think about this car with 18" Monoblocks (or respray of centers of existing wheel - even better), chrome avant garde 6 ribbed grille, swap the shift knob if you don't like it, and if you don't like the steering wheel buy a stock one, a sportline one or a C43/E55 one. All of this is a days worth of work max.

Assuming the economy doesn't crater, I don't see cars like this become less valuable.

 

[FD.]

Re: FS: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $49k (North Carolina)

Not sure about the wheels, but maybe after two months of NO sale it is time for the owner to get back to the original looking steering wheel and gear knob.

Yes, easy changes to make for the buyer but it is the first impression that is the most important ))

So it makes sense for the owner to spend some time and some cash creating a new sets of
1. professional beautiful photos
2. photos with some important details, for example underneath

With that kind of photos (and original interior parts) it will be much easier to get a good sale on Bring a trailer.

 

[bb1]

Re: FS: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $49k (North Carolina)

Oh, there isn't better...not that I have seen!
Having had them in my hand and looking them over closely we were all VERY impressed!!! Damn fine wheels, beautifully made and assembled. Nicely done Sir.

Thank you Sir and you now where to get them from, if you need them.. ��

 

[Dario]

Re: FS: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $49k (North Carolina)

I disagree gentlemen, Isn't a 6L 500E in the US more rare than a Porsche 959 ?

Yes its not a documented 1 of 126 factory E60 AMG, but then these are at least +150,000USD in Europe.

Unfortunately I have no garage space for more W124s

just because something is “rare” does not mean automatically “valuable”

 

[portiadog1]

Re: FS: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $49k (North Carolina)

This car is SOLD. I believe the buyer is a member but I’m not entirely sure. I’ll let him speak up if he do chooses. Thanks to everyone for the great forum full of knowledge and gentlemanly behavior.

 

[jhodg5ck]

Re: FS: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $49k (North Carolina)

This car is SOLD. I believe the buyer is a member but I’m not entirely sure. I’ll let him speak up if he do chooses. Thanks to everyone for the great forum full of knowledge and gentlemanly behavior.

I will say she's back here to party some more but twas not I who bought her. Thought long and hard, but with 3 036's, 2 with 6L's just couldn't make the jump.

Am sure I'll regret it later but suffice to say her New caretaker is a proper full on Enthusiast of the highest degree






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[Trae]

Finally. . . the dream has left the building and arrived, yet again, at her creator's lair.

Truly a once in a lifetime purchase for the new owner.

Congrats to the "Enthusiast of the highest degree".

 

[nocfn]

OK I CONFESS...

 

[gsxr]

OK I CONFESS...

If it was really you...

 

[nocfn]

My confession was that I missed this thread.

 

[gsxr]

My confession was that I missed this thread.

... and that will haunt you for the rest of your life.

 

[Trae]

Surely he will show himself on the board. . . inquiring minds want to know.

 

[sheward]

Re: FS: 1993 500E 6.0L AMG Conversion, 040 Black/Black, 94kmi, $55k (North Carolina)

It's been haunting me since it showed up.

drew

 

[Trae]

In comparison to this fabulous machine, is this. . . no comparison.


https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1994-mercedes-benz-e500-4/

 

[qtstorm]

I now own Aron's dream that Jono made into a reality. Drove it this past weekend. I'm no stranger to w124. This is the 7th one I've owned (including my 18k mile 92 500e pearlblck/blck sitting in my mancave and a 22k mile silver/black 94 e320 cab that I watched burn to the ground last year). The thread has been entertaining and I appreciate everyones passion. I will be making several changes to "Gustov". I'd like them to be a surprise but I will wet your whistle with a small hint. Ghost flames, 22's, and a BIG supercharger .

 

[jhodg5ck]

I now own Aron's dream that Jono made into a reality. Drove it this past weekend. I'm no stranger to w124. This is the 7th one I've owned (including my 18k mile 92 500e pearlblck/blck sitting in my mancave and a 22k mile silver/black 94 e320 cab that I watched burn to the ground last year). The thread has been entertaining and I appreciate everyones passion. I will be making several changes to "Gustov". I'd like them to be a surprise but I will wet your whistle with a small hint. Ghost flames, 22's, and a BIG supercharger .

22 inch Chrome Spinners....[emoji83]

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[Trae]

Congratulations on Gustov!

 

[500AMM]

Great car and good luck to the new owner!

An airfilter box with the period AMG emblems may be found in Russia or Japan, these AMG emblems are extremely rare to find as separate items.
(BTW, the engine number is quite close to mine, converted late '94/early '95)

 

[195910]

Congratulation and hope you enjoy every Mile... but try to keep it period correct!

 

[Maui]

Congrats and do whatever you want with it. It's your car now.