Spray on Ceramic Waxes

[maw1124]

Let’s have a little fun and do some communal good, shall we? I’m trying this for the first time today, and figured we could post ideas on these spray on ceramics here and track their progress. Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Wax – Easy to Use Ceramic Wax Protection - G190526, 26 oz | Meguiar's

I used this on the Allroad which sits outside in Michigan (it was garage kept the first 12 of its 18 years). It’s due for a cosmetic makeover (hood and front fascia respray, color correction, wheel and headlight refinishing), so in the meantime I figured it can be the Guinea pig. I just sprayed it one and off at a coin operated car wash. It was cool out so I didn’t bother to hand dry it as I usually would. Hopefully that didn’t ruin the process. As it gets exposed to the elements, I’ll update the thread with how it’s holding up. This being March 1st should give us a good time (and weather) reference point.

Hopefully, others will do the same with any spray on ceramics they use, as @JC220 has started to do in his owner’s thread. That way we’ll have it all in one convenient thread.

Cheers,

maw

 

[Glen]

I tried that product when it first came out with good results. I think it works better if it's applied with a microfiber vs just spraying it on and blasting with water as the direction say. Overall, it's ok but I prefer: ICE Seal N Shine Hybrid Sealant Spray Wax 16 FL OZ

I think Seal n' Shine provides better shine and depth and is easier to find locally.

 

[maw1124]

I use that as well, but it's not ceramic is it? I'm trying to up my game while still being quick, cheap and lazy. Especially since most of the cars stay indoors anyway and don't really get dirty, paint wise. It's funny how the old standard companies end up rising to the top eventually though.

maw

 

[Glen]

No, it's not "ceramic" but none of the easy spray on waxes are real ceramic either. Still I find the Seal n' Shine holds up really well and like all spray ons, it's so simple to use, you can easily apply it relatively often...I apply after every 3rd or 4th wash.

 

[maw1124]

That's partly what I was wondering. Is it really ceramic and is it any better than the other stuff I've been using for years. Thanks @Glen. I get lost in the marketing of these things. That said, if the water jumps off the car better, I'll have my real answer. Same process, better results. The spray ons haven't held up well on this car under its conditions, which too often looks like the attached.

maw

 

[Glen]

Here's a video comparing the two products directly (plus a 3rd):

 

[Glen]

And here's another, "real world" 5 month eval:

 

[maw1124]

And it's a lot cheaper... Nice! @Glen have you used this on painted wheels as well? If so, the Meguiars may just end up getting used on the allroad. Somehow I ended up with 2 bottles from Amazon.

maw

EDIT… now I’m just being cheap… I notice the video states this is the “new” version. Would that make the attached the old version? If so, it’s a great deal to me.

 

[Bogeyman]

Here's pretty good video of what's out there and how each type works.

 

[Duh_Vinci]

Here's pretty good video of what's out there and how each type works.

Good video indeed, short, to the point and easy to understand the basics.

 

[2phast]

I use Griots ceramic and Griots ceramic quick detailer. When my supply of Griots wash runs out, will be picking up their ceramic wash as well. I find that the ceramic stuff can be tricky to work with, you need to spray it on, wipe it off right away and use another microfiber towel for finish buffing. Advisable to not do a whole panel, do it in small sections. If you wait too long, it will streak, when that happens I use the ceramic quick detailer to clean it up.

 

[Glen]

And it's a lot cheaper... Nice! @Glen have you used this on painted wheels as well? If so, the Meguiars may just end up getting used on the allroad. Somehow I ended up with 2 bottles from Amazon.

maw

EDIT… now I’m just being cheap… I notice the video states this is the “new” version. Would that make the attached the old version? If so, it’s a great deal to me.

The Spray Wax is a different product entirely, I use Seal n' Shine.

 

[maw1124]

The Spray Wax is a different product entirely, I use Seal n' Shine.

On painted wheels as well?

maw

 

[Glen]

On painted wheels as well?

maw

Yep.

 

[maw1124]

The Spray Wax is a different product entirely, I use Seal n' Shine.

Guys… available on Amazon Prime very thrifty… see attached… this being time for spring cleaning in the northern hemisphere.

maw

 

[Glen]

Another option if you want a ceramic coating vs just a sealant. Note, I have only use the Seal n' Shine not it's ceramic sister product. In the video they mention that Seal n' Shine may have streaking issues (I have not experienced this) so if you have a black car, you may want to consider the ceramic product:

 

[kegmankipp]

Almost 3 years ago I was doing a project for a company that was doing a engineering project for Meguiar’s. They sent me home with a bunch of bottles of product and one of them was this hybrid ceramic spray.

They said your paint needs to be really clean before applying and to wash with half Dawn dishwashing detergent and half Meguiar’s Ultimate Shampoo to get all the old wax, grease and swill off. Then clay bar or speed clay the hard contaminates off till it’s squeaking clean when you rub your finger across the paint.

They said to use very little of the wax, say two sprays for a 124 hood, two for the roof etc and to use a blade type sprayer to roll out all of the surfactant that carries the wax. If the surface of paint looks great or streaky to keep spraying water till it’s clear.

At first I was pretty impressed but one coat doesn’t last too long. Several coats after several washes over several weeks was better. Also spreading it around with a microfiber before rinsing helps.

Their sister product that came out later, the Liquid Ceramic Hybrid is a much better product. Easy on and off. I can wax a whole 124 in 15 minutes. It holds up better and remains very clear.

The Spray version in comparison becomes somewhat opaque and attracts dust. I use the spray only on my Sprinter work van now.

They also gave me their newest Pro compound and polish the 110 and 210 which along with their foam pads on a good Dual Action Random Orbiting Polisher are amazing products and highly recommended.

 

[maw1124]

You know, as someone who grew up reconditioning car paint in the 80's, I find all of this "materials sciences" improvement to be liken to the tech movement in computing. All of it just makes your life quicker and easier. So to me use v no use is the bright line, not necessarily which product. I do these after every wash and most cars are garage kept so under those circumstances I'm convinced all of them work just fine.

It's sort of like which synthetic oil works the best when you change it every 5k miles. That practice eliminates the question.

I'll continue to monitor what multiple coats on the Allroad does (the difference is visible and the paint wasn't even clean -- no clay bar, no nothing). It'll all come off with the color correction anyway. I was also attracted to the rinse off thing, as I don't have to put soiled microfiber rags in the washer (I know, I know). I just like to preserve the paint the best I can since it sits outside in the elements.

Cheers Gents!

maw

 

[anderzen]

A few summer ago I coated one of my cars with 3 layers of both of the Turtlewax seal and shine products. It still is present and beads water a bit and I have hardly maintained it as it's more a driver's car. This summer I'll try actual ceramic coating instead. For the cost and even if they weren't cheap, these Turtlewax products are amazing.

 

[maw1124]

This stuff is working better than I expected. It's nonstop rain this time of year in Michigan, and since @Glen put me on something better, I just decided to use it all gradually here. Maybe I'm 3 applications in.

Of course, it just stopped raining... and I’ve still yet to lay a rag on it this year.

maw

 

[maw1124]

And here's another, "real world" 5 month eval:

Sunny day, got some Ice on the 55 (and the winter's dust off). Can't tell by looking at it, but the touch feels much different. Almost oily it's so slick. Had I not applied it myself I would think something was wrong. Behind last year's color correction I don't think there's anything else to do to the paint.

Thanks @Glen!

maw

 

[TerryA]

Sure looks purty maw

 

[oaklandw124]

Looks great MAW. So, are you using the ICE product on the S55?

 

[kwontumspeed]

Just ordered some of the TW Ice and can't wait to try this out.
After following this thread, spoke to a friend with a very well established detail biz and he couldn't rave enough about it. Noted much better product than the Meguiar's (didn't have experience with Mothers).

 

[maw1124]

Looks great MAW. So, are you using the ICE product on the S55?

Thanks @TerryA. @oaklandw124 Yessir! That was the first application. I regret not having Satish respray the 55 hood when he did the bumpers last year. Somehow that slipped past us. No one else will notice it but I do when I’m waxing it.

TBH, I’m happy with both products so far. The ease of use on both is really remarkable.

maw

 

[8899]

About two years ago I started using P&S Bead Maker as a drying aid...as it was part of the product suite featured by Matt Moreman's Obsessed Garage. Comparisons between Bead Maker and TW Ice Seal N Shine indicate that the TW product is superior.

While I generally like the Bead Maker, it does attract dust. Subsequently Matt got together with the "mixers" and created his own drying aid..."Obsessed Garage Drying Aid" which does get great reviews.

But, a quick search and I have not found any good test comparisons between the OG Drying Aid and the TW Ice Seal N Shine.

For a cost perspective though, the OG Drying Aid is about $50/gallon while a gallon of the TW is about $125/gallon.