Which Wurth products are useful?

[Lynch]

Hello,

Pretty sure there are a lot of good products out there for the meticulous DIY people like us that work well to maintain our cars, with Wurth being OE supplier to MB and never heard a bad thing about their products.

I'm currently thinking of picking up the HHS 2000 or 5000 lubricant to refresh the door mechanisms.

I don't remember if it has been mentioned on the forums but are there any other Wurth products that I should pick up while I'm at it? Will be asking my mechanic to help purchase it, as I don't have access without a trade account.

What was that magical grease or lubricant that Gerry always mentions, was that from Wurth?

Also does anyone know how HHS 2000 compares to HHS 5000? After watching their videos and reading their marketing materials, I believe HHS 2000 is the original and 5000 is basically the same thing with PTFE (Teflon) which is a good thing, but not sure if there are any downsides to it.

Please recommend me any other car maintenance/mechanical-related good products along these lines - would really appreciate it.

 

[vatc5637]

Their anaerobic sealant works well, see post #17 For sale cheap - Cam solenoid anaerobic sealant

 

[S500E]

Wurth Glass Cleaner
https://www.autogeek.net/wuglcl.html

Not a "mechanical" product that you are looking for but a very solid Wurth product.

"magical grease or lubricant that Gerry always mentions," you are referring to this Wunderpaste?
https://www.500eboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9552

 

[gerryvz]

I think Wurth products are really excellent - they can be a PITA for civilians to buy here in the US unless you know where to get them.

For many chemicals, such as the window cleaner and the like, it's much easier to just go with a regular product like Griot's Garage, Meguiars, or Sprayway foaming glass cleaner.

Some Wurth stuff has no substitute, and those are the items where it makes sense to search them out and buy. Perhaps Amazon could be a good place to try.

Cheers,
Gerry

 

[Trae]

Just as some parts have no quality, some Wurth products have NO substitutes, only substandard alternatives, ie. . . hood pad adhesive and rubber treatment.

I know they are expensive, BUT, you will be pleased in the long run.

 

[JC220]

This is interesting to read – there is a Wurth ‘supermarket’ near me. I’ve been in it once or twice for bulbs etc – it’s quite bewildering the massive range of stuff they have like adhesives, sealants etc. Next time I’ll take a closer look. I’d be particularly interested in a good strong sealant for rear w124 Diff Covers.

 

[samiam44]

Wurth products while not carried at wally world or AZ- they are easy to get USA.

1) Try amazon
2) Order direct from the company
3) find a regional rep.

Even with the shops, everything is done online and drop shipped these days. I've always been a big fan of their products and have used them for years.

 

[ace10]

In the glass cleaning segment, anybody have experience with Stoner Invisible Glass and the Wurth product?

I've used Stoner for many, many years.

 

[gsxr]

I haven't tried it yet, but I haven't found any other companies that offer a rubber-specific lubricant similar to Wurth Rubber Care (12oz spray can) and/or Gummi-Fit (75ml sponge applicator). Not many vendors carry either item in USA.

 

[Lynch]

Love all the suggestions, I'd love to try out the glass cleaner. I heard Stoner's Invisible Glass is some of the best but Wurth might be worth trying.

I haven't tried it yet, but I haven't found any other companies that offer a rubber-specific lubricant similar to Wurth Rubber Care (12oz spray can) and/or Gummi-Fit (75ml sponge applicator). Not many vendors carry either item in USA.

Does it leave a nasty residue after application? There is a small applicator bottle thing made by Einszett called Gummi Pflege. It didn't work exceptionally well and I stopped using it. It did leave a lot of residue on the windows (when applied to door seals) so maybe the Wurth one would be worth trying.

Also does anyone know the difference between HHS 2000 and HHS 5000? Is it fine to use HHS 5000 in place of HHS 2000?

 

[JC220]

I had a brief visit today going past the Würth store near me. They have a mind boggling array of sealants / cleaners / adhesives!

I got the items pictured for now but will be back. The Zinc rich paint can is VERY heavy for the qty so that suggests it’s got a lot of zinc in it. (Unlike poor performing zinc paints which weight wise feel just like any regular paint!) I will be using the zinc spray on my CE where I will be doing weld repairs. Then overcoating with rubberised stone chip guard and Black underbody Waxoyl shutz

 

[Allgonquin]

I have stocked up on some Wurth silver paint and clear which I'm going to use to repaint the wheels on my old Land Cruiser. Did this in the past with an old BMW and they came out really well.

 

[gerryvz]

My understanding is that the Griot’s Garage Silver wheel spray paint is re-branded Würth wheel paint.


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[Jimbo]

Yep, I met a Wurth Rep at the shop many years ago...he said Griot's uses Wurth products and puts their name on it !

Cost aside, I like all the Wurth products I've tried.

 

[gerryvz]

I’d be interested to know what other Griot’s products are Würth sourced.


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[Lynch]

Thanks everyone for all the suggestions.

Just sent my MB master tech a huge shopping list.

Will see what he can pick up for me.

 

[hkollan]

I've used their satin black spray paint for ever and found none better. The red primer is also good. As mentioned the high temp resistant spray adhesive for hood pads etc works well.

 

[JC220]

Got a bottle of this today - I think its Wurth a try. Reviews online speak highly of it. It is a solution to re-condition rubber door seals etc. Tried it on my w211 this evening and the w140s will all get a application of it this weekend



Silicone-free care for rubber seals

• The rubber parts remain supple, thereby increasing their service life and preventing cracks
• Freezing and drying out is prevented effectively in winter
• Eliminates squeaking and creaking noises
• Silicone-free
• Resistant to splash water and salt water
• Biodegradable
• Resistant to diluted acids and bases
• Water-resistant

 

[LWB250]

Got a bottle of this today - I think its Wurth a try. Reviews online speak highly of it. It is a solution to re-condition rubber door seals etc. Tried it on my w211 this evening and the w140s will all get a application of it this weekend

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Silicone-free care for rubber seals

• The rubber parts remain supple, thereby increasing their service life and preventing cracks
• Freezing and drying out is prevented effectively in winter
• Eliminates squeaking and creaking noises
• Silicone-free
• Resistant to splash water and salt water
• Biodegradable
• Resistant to diluted acids and bases
• Water-resistant

Silver wheel paint, for sure, undercoating is top notch stuff, too.

I wonder if that "Rubber Fit" is the same as the Mercedes stuff that's in the clear plastic bottle? I use it liberally on the top seals of my R129.

How much was that bottle? It looks bigger than the Mercedes stuff, which is about $40 a bottle or thereabouts.

Dan

 

[JC220]

Silver wheel paint, for sure, undercoating is top notch stuff, too.

I wonder if that "Rubber Fit" is the same as the Mercedes stuff that's in the clear plastic bottle? I use it liberally on the top seals of my R129.

How much was that bottle? It looks bigger than the Mercedes stuff, which is about $40 a bottle or thereabouts.

Dan

This bottle I got on ebay for £10gbp inc postage. Price may vary in a Wurth Store. My local store closes during lunch so it's very seldom I get into it for a look around

 

[MCR01]

I thought Wurth was German not French?

 

[500AMM]

I thought Wurth was German not French?

Würth was founded in 1945 by Adolf Würth in Künzelsau, Germany.

Home page | Würth Group

www.wuerth.com

 

[dionphaneuf]

Wurth has great calendars.

 

[JC220]

Got a bottle of this today - I think its Wurth a try. Reviews online speak highly of it. It is a solution to re-condition rubber door seals etc. Tried it on my w211 this evening and the w140s will all get a application of it this weekend

View attachment 86311

Silicone-free care for rubber seals

• The rubber parts remain supple, thereby increasing their service life and preventing cracks
• Freezing and drying out is prevented effectively in winter
• Eliminates squeaking and creaking noises
• Silicone-free
• Resistant to splash water and salt water
• Biodegradable
• Resistant to diluted acids and bases
• Water-resistant

Update,

I have been using this smoo on the runner seals on my w140 which have sat for 3 years unwashed etc. I cleaned them up in a bath of hot soapy water (she didn't notice so I got away with with one) then applied this stuff. Which soaked in quicky.

But.... not sure it's doing much of anything to be honest. The seals didn't "feel" any different. And it soaked in or evaporated so quickly also makes me wonder.

Has anyone else used it and what do you think?

I am stopping by a Wurth shop tomorrow morning to get some stone chip coating

 

[gsxr]

I have been using this smoo on the runner seals on my w140 which have sat for 3 years unwashed etc. I cleaned them up in a bath of hot soapy water (she didn't notice so I got away with with one) then applied this stuff. Which soaked in quicky.

But.... not sure it's doing much of anything to be honest. The seals didn't "feel" any different. And it soaked in or evaporated so quickly also makes me wonder.

Has anyone else used it and what do you think? I am stopping by a Wurth shop tomorrow morning to get some stone chip coating

Joe, you are using the silicone-free version of the rubber smoo, correct?

Have you tried the silicone-heavy variant instead? I'm curious if there's a substantial difference. The siliconed stuff is not sold in a number of the colonies here, which makes me suspect it's "better". More info in the thread below:

Which rubber care products do you use? | Interior Topics

Not for tires, but for other rubber items... mostly door/trunk weatherstrips/seals, but other rubber items as well (hoses, rubber seals along the outside glass, etc). Wurth has 2 different products, one is 50-state approved; the other is only allowed in 32 states. Both are silicone-free, but...

www.500eboard.co

 

[036]

Windshield wipers from Würth are terrible, don´t buy them.

 

[nocfn]

Wipe your wiperblades with WD40 on a cloth. Will deoxidize and make them new for a few months.

 

[gsxr]

Wipe your wiperblades with WD40 on a cloth. Will deoxidize and make them new for a few months.

I use Formula 303 occasionally, when I remember. Using OE blades and OE refills it's not expensive to install new refills, ~$8 or so, and they usually last 2-3 years.

 

[JC220]

Joe, you are using the silicone-free version of the rubber smoo, correct?

Have you tried the silicone-heavy variant instead? I'm curious if there's a substantial difference. The siliconed stuff is not sold in a number of the colonies here, which makes me suspect it's "better". More info in the thread below:

Which rubber care products do you use? | Interior Topics

Not for tires, but for other rubber items... mostly door/trunk weatherstrips/seals, but other rubber items as well (hoses, rubber seals along the outside glass, etc). Wurth has 2 different products, one is 50-state approved; the other is only allowed in 32 states. Both are silicone-free, but...

www.500eboard.co

It was the silicone free version Dave, I would not use silicone containing products on my cars anyway except maybe as tyre dressings.

The problem is silicone can affect any repainting in future and cause fish eyes / reactions in the new paint even several feet away from where the silicone residue may exist. I'm sure for many members this isn't a consideration but for my S320 that I applied this on the other day it will be getting a full repaint soon.

 

[036]

Wipe your wiperblades with WD40 on a cloth. Will deoxidize and make them new for a few months.

Or just buy Bosch and be happy

 

[nocfn]

This is for any brand, between replacement intervals. I use MB inserts.

 

[LWB250]

I use Formula 303 occasionally, when I remember. Using OE blades and OE refills it's not expensive to install new refills, ~$8 or so, and they usually last 2-3 years.

For what it's worth, Mercedes is getting to be hit or miss on wiper blade replacements, especially on later models. For instance, W163 blades (a set) are around $35. A set for the W211 are nearly $60. And the W163 blades are far more substantial, too.

Dan

 

[JC220]

I got some more items to try from the Wurth shop:



One thing I will say is the Wurth shop is always expensive! The above 4x cans cost £44.

 

[gsxr]

For what it's worth, Mercedes is getting to be hit or miss on wiper blade replacements, especially on later models. For instance, W163 blades (a set) are around $35. A set for the W211 are nearly $60. And the W163 blades are far more substantial, too.

The W124/202 blades aren't terribly priced, and thankfully the rubber insert is sold separately - which is why you can refill it for only ~$8. I forget the price on a new blade+insert but IIRC it was $25 or so? Helps that there is only one, not two as on the newer/lamer models.

 

[LWB250]

The W124/202 blades aren't terribly priced, and thankfully the rubber insert is sold separately - which is why you can refill it for only ~$8. I forget the price on a new blade+insert but IIRC it was $25 or so? Helps that there is only one, not two as on the newer/lamer models.



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Later models that don't use the monowiper have two wipers with replaceable blades (not inserts) that don't work particularly well. In fact, the W163 mechanism has a tendency to come apart at the ball and socket joints as they age, requiring removal of the trim below the windshield to get to it. The W211 is much the same, in fact, the guys who replaced my 2003 E320's windshield a few weeks ago are coming back tomorrow to reconnect the linkage as the passenger side wiper stopped working after they replaced the windshield. Even when they do work, they seem to be "juddery" as they move through their travel.

Dan

 

[dionphaneuf]

I enjoy the Wurth Calendars.
That is all.