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* Let's have a test and tune day in So. Cal.

If you are that worried about it you can remove your headlight panels and change your intake tubes!
Me worry, never, just was curious if it's an AMG car and nothing more. On paper, the car should run low 14's so he would be a good race. My headlight panels are intake tubes are staying as is. :starwars:

Are they going to feed us before or after the races? You do know what digestion does to reaction times, right?
Not sure. I did manage my second 14.2 with a .070 R/T (the first 14.2 had a .160 R/T on an empty stomach) after having a hot dog...so.

Yes, that's why I asked if you could please post the timeslip but you said you couldn't do it because you didn't have the ability to do it from home. Maybe you can post that timeslip from work?
Our scanner is not back from service and since no one really uses the old girl, we are not sure when or if we are getting it back. You have the slip, just post the numbers, I'll vouch for you. Or I can try to take a picture of the slip and post it from work, I got a few data phones at my disposal.
 
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It's OK I suppose because you've already vouched for the fact that I did that .001 R/T. It's just that it would look cool on the screen for the whole frickin' world to see!
Regards, Eric
 
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Thanks for posting that Steve!

Yes Dave, Steve has come a long way in the 13 months since he first joined us! He has done me proud! (Justin has too for that matter!)
Regards, Eric
 
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You should have gone today Steve! They fed us lunch from Subway!

Do you want the good news first or the bad news first?
 
Stop holding out on us! We need all the news, especially what the mainstream media doesn't tell us!! LOL...

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Give us ALL the news, in any order. We're not picky. :D

Looks like you ate the Subway after the races, and got B1 into the 15's by blowing on the windshield...?

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It turns out this was a much bigger event than we had given it credit for. To think that I was planning to blow this off! Pomona is the premier West Coast 1/4 mile facility but I didn't know that because I've never been there because they NEVER let use low life street car jockeys race there. This is strictly a professional venue.

Only 6 of the invited 21 drivers showed so I should have had a shot but the 6 that did show where the hardest of the hard core, quite frankly I think a few were ringers who were pros themselves. The cars were hard core too, not one ricer showed. The slowest car there (besides mine) ran mid-12s. I wasn't worried though because I figured I'd just do what we are always supposed to do which is run my own race and not think about what other people were doing. (This was strictly a reaction time competition anyways.)

Since this wasn't about the car's E/T this time I ran full weight, nothing removed so I wouldn't have any traction issues. I even ran with a bit more gas than what Dave would normally allow us to run. Again, I didn't know that Pomona was a whole different animal.

The event was set-up to be deliberately hard on us with us only getting ONE practice run and ONE main run. They were trying to find the best of the best after all.

Remember what I said about Pomona being a premier facility? I immediately knew when I tried to heat my tires that this track was STICKY! So I figured I could get away with raising my powerbraking RPM a little so I could improve my 60' time a little so I could improve my E/T a little. (I was already forgetting my rule about only focusing on the R/T.) Well, my car hooked WAY too well, so well in fact that my R/T was affected. I redlighted badly on my first and only trial run. Everybody else redlighted too (!) except for one dude who, ironically, went on to redlight on his main run instead. (There may be another dude who didn't redlight on that first run, I didn't keep track of everyone, but there were 4 of us talking and the dude who didn't redlight said that all of the rest of us except for him had relighted.) The general consensus was that the super sticky track had thrown us all off from what we were used to. (Although some of us may have been trying too hard too! Not me though!)

On the main run I did everything as before but I powerbraked less aggressively so that I wouldn't launch so quickly. But this great hooking track still reverse stung me by causing B1's ever so slight softness down at the very bottom of his powerband to weaken the launch a little too much which tanked my R/T. Now remember, we are talking very subtle nuances here. This wasn't what you would call a bog or stumble, it was just a little softness in the bottom end that wrecked my R/T (.260) because the track was so unforgiving. (Now remember, B1, unlike B3, does benefit from being powerbraked!) The extra weight we were carrying wound up hurting us here too. Something that I thought would help us actually wound up hurting us. In hindsight that was clearly another error on my part. I had thought about taking at least one of the child seats and the spare out after the first run cause I now knew that this track was hooking but I was too afraid to jack with the combo too much. I should have gone ahead and did it. Mainly though I simply needed another run where I could be like Goldilocks and find that just right spot somewhere between that first run's powerbrake RPM level and that second run's powerbrake RPM level. That would have gotten us in the hunt but this event was supposed to be all about getting it right the first time. The winning R/T by the way was a .020, which wasn't even good enough to be anywhere near even qualifying to run in this event. (The slowest qualifying R/T for this event was a .012) Oh well. I can still say that I got to run at Pomona which is something that VERY FEW people will ever get to do! Plus this event was free for us, plus they fed us well (No nappy cheap hot dogs like I figured it would be), PLUS they are going to buy our next street legals racing card for us! Got some cool stickers too! :triumphant:

Here's the good news: despite everything, B1 still pulled his best E/T to date on the second run! Despite the mediocre launch and extra weight, despite the fact that I didn't get to hot lap him, and despite the fact that I wasn't running my "good" #002 ECU, the ECU that has gotten us the only other 15s that we have ever seen in B1! (All 3 of them!) I had left the 002 ECU out because I wanted to keep the combo exactly the same as it had been when I got the .001 and .005 R/Ts but it turns out that I had read my notes wrong and I had had the 002 in on the .001 run but not on the .005 run. Maybe the fact that this track doesn't run uphill helped!

Dave, B1 was ALREADY in the 15s, don't you remember? He's just a little DEEPER into the 15s now! Since last Spring the sig has been reflecting the 15.95 that we got whilst we were repeatedly and thoroughly spanking the Sauceman's BMW. Haven't you been paying attention?

And yes, I did wait till after the event to eat, and yes, I left the lunch with them so I wouldn't have even more weight in the car!

No, I did not blow on the windshield but I've got to remember to try that some time! :wank307:
Regards, Eric
 
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That's cool Sauceman!

I wanted to elaborate a little further on what I was trying to say in my Pomona report. With a car that has very limited low end torque to play with, a small amount of CONTROLLED wheelspin, just like a small amount of torque converter slippage, will help get said car into it's powerband quicker where it can do a better job of getting you out of the hole quicker. This can be seen and heard very clearly in my .005 R/T run against the M3:
[youtube]6QDtIV-N7dI[/youtube]
In this case our crappy home track's crappy traction actually helps us and Pomona's great traction actually hurts us. To overcome this we need to use a little more torque converter slippage to make up the difference. (But not too much though!) I just need another run or two there so I can nail down a Pomona specific technique.

Now Dave is always telling us that zero wheelspin is the only way to go. In most cases he may be right, but not when you are working with a small little high strung engine that is almost completely worthless below 4,000 RPM!

This is yet another case for having a quicker car that isn't so sensitive to every little thing (like Dave was saying). I should have brought Benzer3 to this event. Live and learn. If I had brought Benzer3, we could have also nailed down a new all time best E/T that would have been harder for Steve to equal at our nappy home track! The downside is that I would have needed a few test runs to relearn how the launch Benzer3, since it's been over 6 months since I've even driven B3!

I'm sorry I disappointed you guys.
Regards, Eric
 
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I wish I could have gone...it's just this darn work thing keeps getting in the way. I sounds like it was worth going and I'm glad Eric was able to represent the 124 family. Eric, maybe higher pressure in the rear tires would have helped with take off on a sticky track?

Next weekend calls for rain on both days...:scratchchin:
 
I was running 35 psi on the pass side and 40 on the driver side. I did bring my little yellow compressor, the one you saw me using at our most recent track day, but I was afraid to go any higher. I had actually brought the compressor to re-inflate the tires before leaving the track just in case I had needed to deflate them while I was there. I never would have imagined that I would be in a situation where I would need to add even more air to them!

I just needed another run to nail down a Pomona specific technique.

Nailing that 15.924 was more significant than the small gain would have one believe because 15.95, properly rounded, is actually a 16 flat, not a 15.9 like most folks would claim. But now I can actually claim a 15.9 and not be inaccurate when I do!

In addition to all of the other weighty things that I have already mentioned that we were carrying that day, we were also even carrying our heaviest metal folding chair!

Like I said before, getting a 15 out of a 236,000+ mile M103 is a bigger deal to me than getting that 14.3 out of Benzer3 was!
Regards, Eric
 
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Dallas is saying that we won't see any rain till Sunday. You do remember that Dallas is the man, right?

Jackie Johnson may have the cans, but Dallas is the man!
Regards, Eric
 
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I can't take someone seriously who's name is Dallas...that and I hardly watch any of the major networks channels.
 
I told Eric, but apparently I forgot to update this thread. I'm waiting on a few odds and ends for my car which will not be here until Monday at the earliest. Soooo, I do not believe I will make it this time. 99% sure for the 3rd though!
 
Yes, I do have a paid show with my band, but I would still come and leave early if the 500 was complete.
 
A paying gig gets a Mulligan without any questions asked, have a killer gig!

I'm still not sure if I have to work this weekend and won't know till about 3pm tomorrow. Eric, how's your tire issue? It still might rain slightly on Saturday morning, so what happens at the track then? Or if its raining while we are in route, does the track stay open till it stops raining?
 
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Tire issue? What tire issue? At Pomona we hooked great!

If you are referring to the leaking front, I resolved that the night before Pomona.

If you are referring to Benzer3's tire issues, I finally found the short lug bolts that will facilitate the rim/tire swap only yesterday. I still have a few other things to do to B3 though.

Dallas still says there won't be anything more than a short drizzle Sat. mourning. The problem is that the track goes by expected turnout. Remember what happened last Fall? If you go back in this thread to last fall you will see that even a very small early mourning spritzing caused the track to call off the day because they feared the turnout would be too low. If I remember correctly the day they reset us for got rained out too! (And that one was a true rain out!) Be that as it may, we still have to plan on going just in case because it is promising to be a very cool day, highs in the low 60s! Should make for some record breaking runs!

Despite my best efforts, Benzer3 still isn't ready so t looks like it's one more time for Benzer1. I tried to get Justin to go with his M104 but he just doesn't want to. I don't blame him. He's willing to do a half day with his 500E despite the gig but not with his M104! Why is that? It's because he fears the Mighty Benzer1! He's ridden in it! He knows about it's badness!
Regards, Eric
 
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If you are referring to the leaking front, I resolved that the night before Pomona.
Yes, I was referring to leaking front. So if it's drizzling in the morning, we should still go? I would hate to wake up that early on a Saturday, drive 50+ miles just to turn around and drive back home. I do have to work this weekend, but I can work later on the day, but I might not stay till the end. So I guess I'm going. Is the C43 AMG still coming down?

Don't forget the ice...although you might need less this time.

Bloody 6am wake up call...again, and all in the name of Speed. What time were you thinking to get there?
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The site was down for a while.

The C43 dude has dropped off the face of the Earth. I don't know what happened to him.

It's OK though because Spacey Casey is going and he is sporting serious wood for your 500E! He's claiming he's gonna spank you this time!

There's still nothing on the site about canceling our day: http://www.autoclubspeedway.com/Tic...t-Legal-Drags/2011-Street-Legal-Drags-10.aspx

I'm planning on being there as early as possible so I can secure our spot, but I'm not sure I'll actually be able to pull it off as I still have some fuel issues to resolve on B1. Don't misunderstand me, I'm going, I'm just not sure I'll be able to be there early.
Regards, Eric
 
The site was down for a while.
Yes, the site was down for about 30-40 minutes after midnight Central Standard Time.

I was doing a software upgrade and was also earlier tonight monkeying with the domain. I'm hoping to get the CMS system fully implemented and live this weekend at the www.500eboard.com domain so that when you go to that base-level web site, the portal/dashboard pops up.

I have a little more tweaking work to do.

Cheers,
Gerry
 
So Steve, it's time for you to admit that Dallas is the man!

It's also your turn to do The Rock And Roll Race Report.
Regards, Eric
 
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Ok, I’ll chime in. The cooler weather was a blessing and that translated to much better ET’s…too bad Eric spend the whole day working on his pluming issues with fuel. You should have seen him, he spend the whole day sitting inside his trunk cursing.

Finally I was able to run in decent weather and got my best ET times so far.

12:16 pm – 14.192 @ 98.51mph
1:10 pm – 14.218 @ 98.79mph
3:16 pm – 14.036 @ 99.40mph
4:22 pm – 14.087 @ 99.24mph
4:42 pm – 14.206 @ 98.87mph
4:48 pm – 14.298 @ 98.65mph

Spacey Casey did not do as well against me this time compared to when we first ran against each other; this time he got a 14.541 against my 14.036, but he did say he was having issues hooking up this time as well. I was able to hook up better in cold weather then hot weather, but I did drop my rear PSI a tad more for the cooler weather. I aim to break or tie the 14.000 mark next time.

The day was much slower this time – there were quite a few breakdowns, but nothing was as bad as having the bikers slow down the day. There was a lager turnout of bikers then before and I have never seen some many of them just break down at the line, even the PA was barking about having your hoopty in ready condition when staging or don't stage. That still didn’t help…the bikers need to stay home, or have their bikes in working condition when at the track – so many were tweaking their bikes tight off the trailers and never got any runs done.

The jury is still out on Dallas…or should I say the jury is still out on “L.A. weather reports” - I have never seen as many changes for forecasts as I do here.

December 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] is the last day in 2011, so let's hope that some of you 036 “wussies” will show up. My plans are the same, unless it rains or I have to work, I’ll be there and I hope Eric can get his B3 ready. Btw, I can vouch for Eric’s 15.924 ET on B1.
 
Regarding Dallas, the bottom line is he nailed it a week in advance, and he never wavered. He said all along that there was a slight chance of early mourning drizzle for Sat, nothing more. My fear was that that would be enough to cause the track to scrub the day, based on their past skittish behavior. Say it with me now: Dallas is The Man!

Let's all hope that Steve isn't going to jail, because right after their race, Spacey Casey told me that Steve "raped" him. Let's hope he doesn't file charges with the authorities!

My computer is infected again, so I'm trying to stay off of it till I get it disinfected. Normally, my Wife's nephew would help us here but his Wife recently had a baby so he has his hands full. So I'm trying to handle it myself this time. Steve is helping me too! Thanks Steve!

After the races I attended a memorial for one of the tech inspectors who had died recently. I had always liked the guy because it was always clear that he was there to protect people from hurting themselves (and/or others), not just be an A-hole. Anybody here know who Big Willie is? He was there to pay respects too as it turned out the deceased man was an old friend of his! Anybody here who remembers who Big Willie was/is and how significant he was/is to racing can appreciate what a thrill it was to met him! If you don't know who he is, don't worry cause you'll soon be able to go watch the movie about him that is being developed!

Didn't the rest of you read Steve's post? Those are by far his best E/Ts yet! Aren't some congratulations in order? Or does he have to wait until he gets a 13? Pretty tough crowd here!
Regards, Eric
 
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I just checked and as expected, the video of the latest race isn't posted yet and I expect it to take a while for obvious reasons. Honestly, this is the better video anyways as the new one is gonna look kinda lopsided:
[youtube]5vErfegRJEU&feature[/youtube]

Honestly, that video never gets old! Steve, you should post the timeslip as it will show how at every single point, from start to finish, from the R/T to the E/T, these two were as close as they could be. It's all the more remarkable when you consider how totally different the cars are: front drive vs. rear drive, stick vs. auto, 2.3 liter turbo inline 5 vs. 5.0 liter N.A. V8, one driver is old enough to be the other one's Daddy, one driver is from the other side of the world, etc, etc. About the only similarity between the two is the fact that they have 4 doors and 4 wheels!

Even though the numbers say that the race between Casey and I was even closer (which it was), the 500E vs. S70 race LOOKS closer because it's close from the beginning while the 400E vs. S70 race was the most close at the end, out of the camera's range.
[youtube]Z-YSBvjvO_4&list=LLKvCYZOS1mA_Z2KBOu0BKDA&index=27&feature[/youtube]

Another super interesting point is how both of us ran our best ever E/Ts only when we lined up against Spacey Casey! My 14.348 run was against him! (But that run has not surfaced on video.) And the last time we raced, my two quickest runs of that day were when I was pitted against Casey with our second race (the one on the video above) being my quickest run of that day! Any other M119 owners out there who are thinking of joining us should line up against him too! He's good luck! Either that or M119s try extra hard when they are lined up against front wheel drive Volvos!
Regards, Eric
 
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Steve, I stayed up for another 4 hours after we talked and found 2 more places where the SOB was hiding. I think there is nothing left because things seem to be working fine now and no phony anti-virus programs are popping up anymore. I didn't want to call and bother you again but I did want to let you know the status and to thank you again. Thanks!

Where is everybody? They don't have the internet where you are spending the holiday? Well anyways, HAPPY THANKSGIVING!
Regards, Eric
 
Honestly, that video never gets old! Steve, you should post the timeslip as it will show how at every single point, from start to finish, from the R/T to the E/T, these two were as close as they could be. It's all the more remarkable when you consider how totally different the cars are: front drive vs. rear drive, stick vs. auto, 2.3 liter turbo inline 5 vs. 5.0 liter N.A. V8, one driver is old enough to be the other one's Daddy, one driver is from the other side of the world, etc, etc. About the only similarity between the two is the fact that they have 4 doors and 4 wheels!

Oh yeah, they do have one more thing in common: Porsche. Volvo hired Porsche to do a fair amount of the development work on their inline 5/6 engine family!
Regards, Eric
 
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Let's all hope that Steve isn't going to jail, because right after their race, Spacey Casey told me that Steve "raped" him. Let's hope he doesn't file charges with the authorities!

My computer is infected again, so I'm trying to stay off of it till I get it disinfected. Normally, my Wife's nephew would help us here but his Wife recently had a baby so he has his hands full. So I'm trying to handle it myself this time. Steve is helping me too! Thanks Steve!

Didn't the rest of you read Steve's post? Those are by far his best E/Ts yet! Aren't some congratulations in order? Or does he have to wait until he gets a 13? Pretty tough crowd here!
Regards, Eric
I don’t know about a half a second sufficing as rape, I would think being beaten by a second or more would justify the rape?

My times are nothing extraordinary, so my bet is mid to low 13's might get some reaction.
 
Steve, I stayed up for another 4 hours after we talked and found 2 more places where the SOB was hiding. I think there is nothing left because things seem to be working fine now and no phony anti-virus programs are popping up anymore. I didn't want to call and bother you again but I did want to let you know the status and to thank you again. Thanks!

Where is everybody? They don't have the internet where you are spending the holiday? Well anyways, HAPPY THANKSGIVING!
Regards, Eric
Glad to hear that your PC is doing better.

I was with my family these past four days and had family here from up north, so I spend all of my day's off driving around L.A.
 
I just checked and as expected, the video of the latest race isn't posted yet and I expect it to take a while for obvious reasons. Honestly, this is the better video anyways as the new one is gonna look kinda lopsided:
[youtube]5vErfegRJEU&feature[/youtube]

Honestly, that video never gets old! Steve, you should post the timeslip as it will show how at every single point, from start to finish, from the R/T to the E/T, these two were as close as they could be. It's all the more remarkable when you consider how totally different the cars are: front drive vs. rear drive, stick vs. auto, 2.3 liter turbo inline 5 vs. 5.0 liter N.A. V8, one driver is old enough to be the other one's Daddy, one driver is from the other side of the world, etc, etc. About the only similarity between the two is the fact that they have 4 doors and 4 wheels!

Even though the numbers say that the race between Casey and I was even closer (which it was), the 500E vs. S70 race LOOKS closer because it's close from the beginning while the 400E vs. S70 race was the most close at the end, out of the camera's range.
[youtube]Z-YSBvjvO_4&list=LLKvCYZOS1mA_Z2KBOu0BKDA&index=27&feature[/youtube]

Another super interesting point is how both of us ran our best ever E/Ts only when we lined up against Spacey Casey! My 14.348 run was against him! (But that run has not surfaced on video.) And the last time we raced, my two quickest runs of that day were when I was pitted against Casey with our second race (the one on the video above) being my quickest run of that day! Any other M119 owners out there who are thinking of joining us should line up against him too! He's good luck! Either that or M119s try extra hard when they are lined up against front wheel drive Volvos!
Regards, Eric
I guess the Swedes bring out more of our competitors side.
 
I don’t know about a half a second sufficing as rape, I would think being beaten by a second or more would justify the rape?

Yeah, as they say, tell it to the judge! Besides, it was three quarters of a second!

You've been gone so long I was afraid the authorities had already gotten you!

Got the new glass installed today! B3 is back! B3 is gonna be there Sat! Dallas says Sat is gonna be sunny, dry, with a high in the mid-60s. It should be stellar! It should be epic! (Provided that Stevo doesn't get picked up by the authorities before then!)
Regards, Eric
 
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You mean besides all the Mustangs and Camaros? That's a damn good question! Certainly not anyone from here! What's that Jesse Ventura line? Something about ".... a bunch of slack jawed pussies!" Even The Sauceman is not sure about making it now but we aren't gonna bust his nuts about it cause he really is trying. Too bad Benzer1 is out of commission now because it looks like Justin has the day available but not his 036 which leaves him piloting his M104 car. This would have made for some epic M103 vs. M104 races! Instead we are gonna have to settle for some epic 034 vs 036 races!

BTW, B1 has a clean fuel tank pick-up now, as well as a clean main fuel filter. Still not enough fuel to the engine. Runs nice for about a minute then dies. Subsequent restarts only net you about 10 seconds of run time. Leave things alone for several hours and a restart will net you about a minute again. Fuel pumps look fairly young. Several folks here are former M103 owners. (In alphabetical order: Dave, Justin and Steve come immediately to mind. I'm sure there are plenty of others.) Others here are also former M104 CIS-E owners. Some folks here STILL own a CIS-E car or two. Anybody have any ideas? I checked with the OP and he said it would be OK to go off topic for a little while on this subject. Not too much else going on around here in this thread anyways. I've read something about a fuel screen in the CIS-E system but I haven't been able to ascertain just exactly where it is yet. Or maybe I can borrow a fuel pressure gauge from Justin! Hey Justin! I have a new digital inspection camera! Got it on a big discount sale so I can take a peak inside of Benzer4's engine. Wouldn't you love to take it for a spin? Come by! Please bring your fuel pressure gauge with you!
Regards, Eric
 
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Eric, if your car has twin fuel pumps, I suspect one of them may have died. Fuel pressure gauge should help pinpoint this. External appearance of the pumps can be deceiving, especially for a SoCal car. They might looks great but not work well, or be entirely dead.

GVZ has theorized the E10 ethanol blends foisted upon us is killing fuel pumps prematurely, and I wouldn't be surprised if that were indeed true. I make it a point to only fill up with non-ethanol gas when possible (a few stations in Boise carry this and advertise it clearly).

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You mean besides all the Mustangs and Camaros? That's a damn good question! Certainly not anyone from here! What's that Jesse Ventura line? Something about ".... a bunch of slack jawed pussies!" Even The Sauceman is not sure about making it now but we aren't gonna bust his nuts about it cause he really is trying. Too bad Benzer1 is out of commission now because it looks like Justin has the day available but not his 036 which leaves him piloting his M104 car. This would have made for some epic M103 vs. M104 races! Instead we are gonna have to settle for some epic 034 vs 036 races!

BTW, B1 has a clean fuel tank pick-up now, as well as a clean main fuel filter. Still not enough fuel to the engine. Runs nice for about a minute then dies. Subsequent restarts only net you about 10 seconds of run time. Leave things alone for several hours and a restart will net you about a minute again. Fuel pumps look fairly young. Several folks here are former M103 owners. (In alphabetical order: Dave, Justin and Steve come immediately to mind. I'm sure there are plenty of others.) Others here are also former M104 CIS-E owners. Some folks here STILL own a CIS-E car or two. Anybody have any ideas?

Are the Swedes coming? I'm sure Casey wants revenge. Well, at least we'll finally have the 034 vs 036 races. You ready? I haven't got my confirmation for this weekend coverage at work, but our current projects have been extend to January, so I'm going for sure. Grab the ice.

I never explored my M103 while I owned it, but I did not have any issues with fuel delivery, so my input here unfortunately is null.
 
Eric, one of the pumps in my 500e was dead and it looked nearly new from the outside. I wouldn't rule it out completely. The fuel pressure gauge I had was borrowed from Steve Lemberg, sorry my friend!

I found a few more parts that need replacing on the 036, so it will have to miss yet another race day. I do play to attend in my m104, but I will not be racing. Which leaves me available for video taping. Casey has informed me that he will indeed be there and has found the likely cause of what made him run slower last time. I don't think Steve should be scared, but he will definitely have to stay on his toes to get a decent win-margin this time.
 
I don't know if the fact that his cams were timed wrong was privileged information or not, so I can't share. Sorry man!
 

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