19" Wheels for 500E looking for 500E wizards to help advise

[mrindiafromuk]

This may be a little controversial. I have the opportunity to have 19' wheels made to the best and most ideal specification for my 500E.
There are lots of posts on different sizes, all a bit confusing.

If I could make the most ideal spec 19" wheel what would be the spec and what tires should i run? should they be staggered?

 

[gsxr]

There are some photos & specs at the link below that will give you an idea of widths, offsets, and tire sizes - and, what they might look like on the car.

Tire size should be staggered only if the wheels are staggered (wider in the rear).

FOR SALE - AMG 19" staggered wheels & Michelin Pilot 4S tires | Parts for Sale

Set of four genuine AMG wheels, original equipment on some CLS (219 chassis) and SL (R230 chassis). All four wheels are straight and have no curb rash, but have imperfections in the paint, possibly from brake dust. I don't know if the "dust" can be removed with appropriate cleaners, or if they...

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[mrindiafromuk]

There are some photos & specs at the link below that will give you an idea of widths, offsets, and tire sizes - and, what they might look like on the car.

Tire size should be staggered only if the wheels are staggered (wider in the rear).

FOR SALE - AMG 19" staggered wheels & Michelin Pilot 4S tires | Parts for Sale

Set of four genuine AMG wheels, original equipment on some CLS (219 chassis) and SL (R230 chassis). All four wheels are straight and have no curb rash, but have imperfections in the paint, possibly from brake dust. I don't know if the "dust" can be removed with appropriate cleaners, or if they...

www.500eboard.co

This might be just the ticket, Thank you @gsxr

 

[maw1124]

How light are your wheels going to be? Keep in mind bigger wheels take bigger, heavier tires and it's not like this car has power in abundance. Maybe for '95 but not for '25. It's adequate in Rolls Royce terminology but only just. So weight at the corners will definitely matter.

maw

 

[mrindiafromuk]

How light are your wheels going to be? Keep in mind bigger wheels take bigger, heavier tires and it's not like this car has power in abundance. Maybe for '95 but not for '25. It's adequate in Rolls Royce terminology but only just. So weight at the corners will definitely matter.

maw

I am going to get forged aluminum wheels . I do like the look of my 18” s but the wheels i am looking to have made are a modern take on the 5 spoke Penta so I am trying to make the spokes as long as possible.

 

[duuder]

Whats the idea? I want to see..

 

[Jlaa]

IMHO the ride on 19" wheels/tires will be quite suboptimal. The ride on 18" wheels/tires is already a bit compromised from the luxe-OE 16"/17" (EvoII) setup....

 

[TerryA]

IMHO the ride on 19" wheels/tires will be quite suboptimal. The ride on 18" wheels/tires is already a bit compromised from the luxe-OE 16"/17" (EvoII) setup....

+1 w/@Jlaa!, If you plan on driving it on 19s you’ll be disappointed w/ the ride. Sorry for the negative attitude.

 

[mrindiafromuk]

After everyone’s thoughts I think I will stick with 18” as I have now. I love the ride as is.

let me get a super imposed picture made to show you all

 

[Rado]

I’ll jump on the wagon.

I like the post since this is something I’m fighting with.
In my opinion the car has to look good. I’ll highly consider a nice fitting 19s.

I recently purchased monoblocks 2 18” and I’m unbelievably disappointed with what I did.
The fitment is trash, the staggered setup is trash. My original wheels on 16” look much better.

Learn from my mistake, instead of taking someone’s wheels and make it work - just build what works best for you.

I know my mistake and I’ll be more careful next time looking for properly fitting wheels.

There are some photos & specs at the link below that will give you an idea of widths, offsets, and tire sizes - and, what they might look like on the car.

That is a good indicator, the fitment looks nice.
Can I have aftermarket evo 2 style in that size specs?
Any oz aero 3 piece on 19s?

I’m back on stock until I find something and will sell the monoblocks 2, I won’t post the sale here as I think no one with E500E should run this. A 400E maybe.
In the pic it looks good but trust me - it doesn’t.

 

[gsxr]

I recently purchased monoblocks 2 18” and I’m unbelievably disappointed with what I did.
The fitment is trash, the staggered setup is trash. My original wheels on 16” look much better.

What width / offset are the 18's you installed? They look ok in the photo above.

Can I have aftermarket evo 2 style in that size specs?

There are some NEEZ wheels which look like Evo available in 18", there are photos on the forum. Not sure if they offer a 19" version, but I don't recall one (@Jlaa?)

Any oz aero 3 piece on 19s?

You might get full custom ones, but I've not seen any OZ 3-pc replicas in 19" either. I think there's an 18" replica?

I’m back on stock until I find something and will sell the monoblocks 2, I won’t post the sale here as I think no one with E500E should run this. A 400E maybe.

The W210 E55 Monoblocks are a super aggressive fitment on a standard 124, the rear 9" wheels will poke outside the rear fenders. A square setup (8" wide all around) can work with fender spacers plus rolling the fender lips.

 

[doolar]

IMHO the ride on 19" wheels/tires will be quite suboptimal. The ride on 18" wheels/tires is already a bit compromised from the luxe-OE 16"/17" (EvoII) setup....

I agree. Our 500E came with staggered 18” Brabus wheels and a lowering kit. It did not ride so well with that. 17” is the sweet spot imo, after I’ve restored and fitted original 16” and can a b test with my Evo2’s that are 17”. But the ride on the 16” are great too!

 

[thebrinksman]

I run 19" Brabus Monoblock V's and like the look but would go down to 18's for more sidewall and a slightly better ride were I to do it again

 

[Rado]

What width / offset are the 18's you installed? They look ok in the photo above.

I made sure they’ll look good in the pic ))) no idea what car they came from and the offset, I’ll go and take a peek later on.

The W210 E55 Monoblocks are a super aggressive fitment on a standard 124, the rear 9" wheels will poke outside the rear fenders. A square setup (8" wide all around) can work with fender spacers plus rolling the fender lips.

I did not get the message, what do you mean by standard 124? And if we are here, what would be the best fit for monoblocks 2 on 18 for a 036 flush look and nice stance? I would prefer squared or at least the fronts as wide as stock, my stock setup was squared.
I’m asking about 18” after I keep reading everyone’s posts that 19 is too much.

Thanks

 

[sheward]

Standard W124 = non 500E. The 400E mentioned in your post for example. You may have fitted 7.5s or 8 inch with a higher offset than the E55 Monoblocs.

The E55 monobloc 2 are 9x18 and 8x18. These wheels fit the 500E/E500 very nicely. It will be harder to find these 8x18 in a square set as they are usually sold as they came on the E55, staggard.

You will find everything you ask about with a search of wheels/Monoblocs.

 

[Jlaa]

There are some NEEZ wheels which look like Evo available in 18", there are photos on the forum. Not sure if they offer a 19" version, but I don't recall one (@Jlaa?)

I do not believe so. 19" wheels IMHO look too large on a 124. Even 18" IMHO is approaching "too large".

 

[szvook]

The other thing about 19” wheels and depending on the wheel design, keeping factory brakes will make the wheel+brakes size combo look out of place…imho. I see this kind of stuff every time I’m on the road. Maybe it’s a fad that I’m not aware of.

 

[gsxr]

@Rado - is the photo below your pesonal car with the 18" Monoblocks mounted?

Or is this someone else's car and you were expecting your car to look like the photo below?

 

[Rado]

@Rado - is the photo below your pesonal car with the 18" Monoblocks mounted?

Or is this someone else's car and you were expecting your car to look like the photo below?

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Hi, yes, that’s my car with those 18”
This are the pics I found on my phone.

 

[DerFuror]

Talking E500E...If you want the custom designed wheel made for your car, go 18" (max) or 17" dia. Or, simpler & less expensive, a square set of AMG 17" Monoblocks with the proper sized lugbolts. Once you stray from 16"/17" wheels, you must also consider changing LCAs, rotor, brake & hardware components.

19" custom made wheels for an E500E? An expediently diminishing return on your investment & ride quality. Basically throwing your money away unless, perhaps, a primary motivator is looking Good for a casual promenade down the main drag or looking Marvelous in the Cars & Coffee parking lot.

Bottom line: You've now heard other owners' opinions. Do what you feel you must do for the ownership enjoyment of your vehicle.

 

[Rado]

The E55 monobloc 2 are 9x18 and 8x18. These wheels fit the 500E/E500 very nicely. It will be harder to find these 8x18 in a square set as they are usually sold as they came on the E55, staggard.

I went to see my wheels and this is what u learned.
Rear 9j ET35 18” part number starting with 210
Front 8j ET31 18” part number starting with 129
Made in Belgium
The rear fit is livable, the front is way too skinny.

 

[sheward]

Those are proper E55 Monoblocs. It is possible to run a 9 inch Monobloc on the front with a 245/45/tire. There are a few other larger wheel combinations that fit the 036. Be prepared to pay upwards of $3,500.

 

[gsxr]

Those are proper E55 Monoblocs. It is possible to run a 9 inch Monobloc on the front with a 245/45/tire. There are a few other larger wheel combinations that fit the 036. Be prepared to pay upwards of $3,500.

Yup - Drew is correct. Those wheels are the proper part numbers / offset.

As you noted, the front 8.0" wheel only pushes outward 3mm vs the stock wheels. If you want more "poke" to fill the front fenders with those particular wheels, you either need spacers, or you'll need to run the 9.0" wheels at all four corners.

Or, switch to a completely different set of wheels that is both wider and different (lower numerical) offset.

 

[mrindiafromuk]

The other thing about 19” wheels and depending on the wheel design, keeping factory brakes will make the wheel+brakes size combo look out of place…imho. I see this kind of stuff every time I’m on the road. Maybe it’s a fad that I’m not aware of.

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You may have seen I updated my calipers to Porsche 996 all around

 

[szvook]

You may have seen I updated my calipers to Porsche 996 all around

I have, looks good.

 

[ArauzMotoring]

One set of wheels that would make you happy with the fitment would be amg aero iii in the proper size imo... only thing is, they are unobtainable for under $4000 for a nice set that may or may not have cracks on the face..

 

[mrindiafromuk]

One set of wheels that would make you happy with the fitment would be amg aero iii in the proper size imo... only thing is, they are unobtainable for under $4000 for a nice set that may or may not have cracks on the face..

I just paid way more for a custom 3 piece wheel. They just arrived at my wheel shop and i am now waiting for my Michelin Pilot Sport 4 to be fitted and hoping next week will have them . Can’t wait to see if I made an expensive mistake or will it look good.

 

[szvook]

I just paid way more for a custom 3 piece wheel.

Who’s the wheels manufacturer?

 

[mrindiafromuk]

Who’s the wheels manufacturer?

RotiForm

 

[Rado]

Yup - Drew is correct. Those wheels are the proper part numbers / offset.

As you noted, the front 8.0" wheel only pushes outward 3mm vs the stock wheels. If you want more "poke" to fill the front fenders with those particular wheels, you either need spacers, or you'll need to run the 9.0" wheels at all four corners.

Or, switch to a completely different set of wheels that is both wider and different (lower numerical) offset.

The more I read the more I understand.
Probably the spacers are the way to go, I’m not gonna be racing this car and it’s still quite far from seeing this car in the state I imagine it.

Thanks all for your insights.

 

[sheward]

Many owners frown on using spacers and I suspect it's because so many people don't understand how to utilize them correctly. If used correctly, they are fine for public highway use. They must be quality correct spacers that are compatible with the W124 bearing cap used with the proper length lug bolts. This will take some reading which is covered in depth here on the forum. I advise understanding all the requirments before purchasing.

 

[Blacklisted_Stallone]

I have aero 2 Monoblocks on mine. The spacers really make the difference imo…
Front: 18x8 et31 245/40/18
Rear: 18x9 et35 275/35/18

H&R spacers
Front: 20mm
Rear: 15mm
(You will need to account for longer lug bolts if you go with the spacers)

H&R lowering springs (with sls)
Front: 3 bump pads
Rear: 1 bump pads

 

[500AMM]

Nice shots of your car!

 

[maw1124]

Many owners frown on using spacers and I suspect it's because so many people don't understand how to utilize them correctly...

Or because we're just purists who don't like wearing multiple pairs of socks for ill-fitting shoes either.



maw

 

[szvook]

Or because we're just purists who don't like wearing multiple pairs of socks for ill-fitting shoes either.

 

[mrindiafromuk]

Hello Everyone, I am posting here first before any of my social media. The wheels are on. 19” homage to AMG Penta. I must say, to me they look like they belong on the car as much as the 18” Monos I took off .