345MM 4 piston Brembo kit from thekangaroosteam.com- W124 / W201 / R129

[Duh_Vinci]

Not sure if it's been posted, but that the kit from thekangaroosteam.com I just stumbled on: 345MM 4 PISTON BREMBO FRONT BRAKE KIT - W124 / W201 / R129 - The Kangaroos Team

"The kit is made to replace the standard front braking setup, it`s easy and quick to mount and fits almost all 17 and all of the 18 inch wheels . Here are some specs: - You get 100% what you see on the pictures! - 100% refurbished Brembo 4 piston Aluminum calipers from w220 s500 (new pistons, rubbers and etc) - 2x ATE 345mm drilled discs with the proper offset (not w220 ones) - a set of ATE brake pads - 2x teflon braided brake hoses - all the necessary adapters, shims, nuts and bolts for making this kit a complete bolt on to your car "​

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"975€ Shipping: DHL Express 298.00€ " <-- total ~€1275 / ~$1350 USD delivered​

The bracket adapter is the key to make it work!

 

[gsxr]

Interesting. I'd like to see photos of this installed on the car. Specifically, the back side of the caliper, and the steering knuckle stop. Would be nice if they sold the bracket separately... W220 calipers are dirt cheap.

 

[Duh_Vinci]

Interesting. Id like to see photos of this installed on the car. Specifically, the back side of the caliper, and the steering knuckle stop. Would be nice if they sold the bracket separately... W220 calipers are dirt cheap.

RIght? W220 Calipers - nobody wants them for the most part, and from our local pick-a-part are $19.61,

 

[jnes]

If you looking for custom brake caliper adapters I can highly recommend this company. I ordered a kit to do brake upgrade to my daily driver. (Bit OT) Job was bolt on with this kit. Only front brake line caused some issue since there were not so much clearance between shock and front drive shaft.

You can order custom bracket also if they don't have proper brackets available.

Here are few pics attached.

Project journal can be found in here in Mersuforum.(only Finnish but I bet that google translate can handle if someone intrested..)

Sorry, OT

-jnes

 

[Kridre]

Whenever I see someone splitting MB fixed caliper, it always reminds me of this warning in FSM. Did anyone ever saw a leaking caliper between the two halves that would need resealing?

When I was giving my calipers for refurb I told the guy to not split my calipers, he was like: "eh, it would be ok, but I will do how you want". So I don't know if this warning is correct or just some crap to made sure that the tech at MB didn't screw anything back in the day. MB doesn't specify a torque value for this, or maybe I just don't know where to look.

 

[JC220]

Whenever I see someone splitting MB fixed caliper, it always reminds me of this warning in FSM. Did anyone ever saw a leaking caliper between the two halves that would need resealing?

When I was giving my calipers for refurb I told the guy to not split my calipers, he was like: eh, it would be ok, but I will do how you want. So I dont know if this warning is correct or just some crap to made sure that the tech at MB didnt screw anything back in the day. MB doesnt specify a torque value for this, or maybe I just dont know where to look.

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Yes it's no problem to split them.

There is a machined Grove for a flat O ring. And that O ring gets squised down a little over time. Best to renew it as they normally come in reseal kits.

 

[alibo70]

Will this kit clear the early LCA's?

 

[500AMM]

Will this kit clear the early LCA's?

I'm sure these front brake discs won't clear any LCAs because they have too high ET. For the W124 you need discs from CLK (C209) or SLK (R171). On the image below you see the difference in the hat height between C209 and C230, it's 11 mm. That would be the same difference on 345 mm discs.

 

[Markus-MD]

yes. and i mean the 360 from r230 are 26mm wide ,and the w209 24mm .

 

[500AMM]

yes. and i mean the 360 from r230 are 26mm wide ,and the w209 24mm .

2-piece floating 360 mm front discs for R230 is 36mm and the C209 is 32mm. Years ago I put together a sketch showing the difference on the hat height.

 

[500AMM]

Here are some pics of the front discs for a visual comparison. It's hard to find high res. pics of the Brembo spec. sheets.

340 x 32 mm


360 x 32 mm


360 x 36 mm

 

[gsxr]

The critical dimension is from the back of the rotor hat (flange surface), to the rear friction surface - see modified diagram below. This eliminates the rotor thickness and hat thickness from the equation, since all we need to know is "will the rotor hit the LCA". (Centering the rotor in the caliper can be generally be accomplished via custom caliper brackets.)

If this measurement is too large, the rotor will contact the LCA near the ball joint area. The "C230 360" rotor (219-421-02-12) is 58mm. These will NOT bolt up to a 124/129 knuckle.

124 rotors that clear both the early AND late LCA's all have ~38mm for this dimension.​

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124 rotors that clear only the late LCA's (without grinding) are a maximum of 44mm for this dimension.​

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The Kangaroo Kit is likely using 1-pc 345x30 rotors from a C32 AMG which are 41mm and will clear the late 124/129 LCA, and might clear early LCA's as well with some massaging.​

See chart below from 124performance.com brake spreadsheet (click here) for dimensions of other rotors.

 

[jhodg5ck]

their kit reminds me of our super budget BBK.. 05/06 S600 calipers, ML430 rotors. which is a 345mm. The frisky brake line was the trickiest bit.

I Think we may have needed to add a small spacer on the mounting points, but it's been a minute since I put them on

 

[500AMM]

The critical dimension is from the back of the rotor hat (flange surface), to the rear friction surface - see modified diagram below. This eliminates the rotor thickness and hat thickness from the equation, since all we need to know is "will the rotor hit the LCA". (Centering the rotor in the caliper can be generally be accomplished via custom caliper brackets.)

You're right Dave!
I put together that sketch many moons ago to see whether the taller hat 360 mm discs could be used, and to get an idea about the caliper position - which clearly was a no go.

Now today, many moons later, I may not install my ambitious big brake KIT due to the car being a young classic. That means I may put on my crack free 17" AMG/OZ Aero II and a set of Silver Arrow brakes up front.