Anyway to tell what rear spring pads these are?

[Blackfin]

I put my 17in AMG 3 piece wheels on yesterday and as I expected, front looks great but the rear rake look is amplified it seems with the new wheels. I want to lower the rear a bit so thought to check and see what pads I have in the rear however I can't tell visually. I measured the side of the pad and it was almost 28mm thick which is much thicker than I thought the thickest pad should measure, so I am assuming I am not measuring in the correct way.

Also, has anybody run H&R's just in the rear with stock springs up front? H&R's aren't much stiffer?

Thanks

 

[nocfn]

there should be nubs on the outer bottom edge of the pad, either 1, 2 or 3. I will have a look at your pics to see and edit here.

Looks Like 1 nub, but when I blow it up the pic is out of focus. Get a picture of the rubber just as it peeks out from the upper cup, that is where it looks like a nub hanging down. Better pic focused there would help.

 

[Blackfin]

Great thank you I will. I see the one nub in one of the pictures as well. If there are multiple nubs are they all next to each other or spaced around the pad?

 

[szvook]

If there are multiple nubs are they all next to each other or spaced around the pad?

They are next to each other, in a row.

If the rear is still too high with 1 bump pads, you might want to consider adjusting the SLS to lower the rear. But that’s a whole new avenue to pursue and it takes some time to achieve.

 

[gsxr]

With SLS adjusted, and the rear still not as low as you want, you either need to change the rear springs or cut stock ones. If you cut, only remove 1/4 coil at a time and then drive it for a few days before cutting further. If the SLS is not adjusted, it will keep lifting the car up even with shorter springs - so that part is critical.

 

[Blackfin]

Thanks guys. Spent the last couple days reading about the options and then the SLS adjustment. I’d rather spend the money on a pair of rear H&R springs than cut my stock ones, and leave front as it is because it sits perfectly.
I’m not engineer at all but my assumption is with slightly stiffer springs in the rear it shouldn’t effect handling and balance too much but perhaps add a bit of oversteer when pushed.
Also would I need to upgrade my shocks with H&R’s or the stock Sachs would be fine?
I’m off to get under the car again and look for some more nubs

 

[nocfn]

Sachs factory are best with SLS in my view. If Original they may need replacement.

 

[ccrelan]

Based on my experience, H&R springs are softer not firmer.

 

[gsxr]

H&R springs are only sold in a set of four, AFAIK.

Alternately you can buy a pair of either stock (124-324-30-04) or Limited rear springs (124-324-38-04) and cut those. The Limited springs are shorter and will drop the rear about 1/4", maybe 3/8", if that isn't enough of a drop you'll need to cut them.

~$240/pair plus S&H from Beaverton:

Rear Spring 124-324-38-04 | Mercedes Genuine Parts

Rear Spring 124-324-38-04

www.mercedesgenuineparts.com

 

[TerryA]

I passed on a 500E w/ H&R springs in the rear. It was owned by an MB Tech aka Italian Benz on 500Ectasy.

When I drove it on the SoCal Freeways it felt like the ass end was doing a hula dance over slight dips and undulations in the road. It was a very weird feeling. Not like any other 500E I had driven.

I don’t think he had deleted the SLS. All I remember is I didn’t like the ride.

This is just my opinion but you can’t beat the stock E500E suspension for street driving, (If it’s functioning properly).

Stick to the stock setup w/ 5mm pads and adjust the SLS. You can also purchase 94 E500 [Limited] rear springs which I believe are a tad shorter but gsxr or Gerry will have to confirm that.

 

[Blackfin]

Thanks guys, I love the stock ride and don't want to go the aftermarket route but it seems I'm already on the 5mm pad and need almost an inch drop in the rear to look level. I didn't realize the Limited springs were still available, that could get me the 1/4-3/8in drop and hopefully SLS can get me a touch more.
Searched and saw they didn't make Limited for the front's so I'm going this route for now.

 

[nocfn]

What is your measurement from the center of the fender lip to the center of the wheel cap?

 

[gsxr]

What is your measurement from the center of the fender lip to the center of the wheel cap?

Excellent point... need some reference data here.

 

[Matin]

H&R springs are only sold in a set of four, AFAIK.

Alternately you can buy a pair of either stock (124-324-30-04) or Limited rear springs (124-324-38-04) and cut those. The Limited springs are shorter and will drop the rear about 1/4", maybe 3/8", if that isn't enough of a drop you'll need to cut them.

~$240/pair plus S&H from Beaverton:

Rear Spring 124-324-38-04 | Mercedes Genuine Parts

Rear Spring 124-324-38-04

www.mercedesgenuineparts.com

Will the stock rear springs (124-324-30-04-64) work with a car that has been SLS deleted? The previous owner of mine in Japan deleted them and I want to refresh the rear spring as sometimes I can hear touching in the car in the rear when there is a heavy load.

Matin

 

[gsxr]

Will the stock rear springs (124-324-30-04-64) work with a car that has been SLS deleted? The previous owner of mine in Japan deleted them and I want to refresh the rear spring as sometimes I can hear touching in the car in the rear when there is a heavy load.

No. Springs designed for SLS in a given chassis, cannot be used in that same chassis with SLS deleted. The SLS is designed to support some of the weight of the vehicle, with SLS removed, the springs cannot support enough weight. Different/taller/stiffer springs are needed. The 034 non-SLS Sportline rear spring 124-324-36-04 might work well, but those went NLA back in 2022.

 

[Matin]

No. Springs designed for SLS in a given chassis, cannot be used in that same chassis with SLS deleted. The SLS is designed to support some of the weight of the vehicle, with SLS removed, the springs cannot support enough weight. Different/taller/stiffer springs are needed. The 034 non-SLS Sportline rear spring 124-324-36-04 might work well, but those went NLA back in 2022.

Thank you! For the 034 p/n - I see them in stock here - 1990-1995 Mercedes-Benz Rear Spring 124-324-36-04 | Mercedes-Benz Parts

 

[gsxr]

Thank you! For the 034 p/n - I see them in stock here - 1990-1995 Mercedes-Benz Rear Spring 124-324-36-04 | Mercedes-Benz Parts

That website is not showing "in stock"... it's only showing a price. Read this first. It's a RevolutionParts dealer, same as almost all the MB online parts dealers in USA. RevolutionParts is the eCommerce platform that USA dealers use to sell parts online. They will show a part as available for purchase, until someone places an order and the dealer finds out the part is NLA, then they will update the website to show "Discontinued". Usually, when one dealer updates the RevParts database as Discontinued, all the other RevPart sites will update shortly afterwards.

However, there's a faint chance there might still be a couple of springs on a shelf somewhere. You can either place an order and see what happens, or call a dealer in USA and have them check worldwide inventory in Paragon. Since these went NLA two years ago, it's unlikely there are any left...

Mercedes-Benz Classic Parts Search.

Browse through the Mercedes-Benz Classic Parts Search to see the availability of parts, promotional and newly manufactured parts and order them online (only in Germany).

partssearch.mercedes-benz-classic.com

 

[rayhennig]

Not strictly on-topic but I saw "spring pad" and I had to respond.

I'm a bit of an "original MB parts" nerd. But while sorting parts in the cellar I came across so Meyle and MB spring pads. I avoid Meyle so I'm not sure how they got there but I could see little difference between the 2 versions. I even detected what might be a gound-off detail such as an MB star?

Comment anyone? Might Meyle get them from the same supplier as MB?

By the way, I always consider Meyle to be below the "F word"!

RayH

 

[gsxr]

If the Meyles are repackaged OEM, they will be identical other than having the Star logo ground off. If the two don't have identical markings otherwise, they are probably not OEM. The MB pads are not expensive, no real need to go aftermarket for these.