A heck of a shill, for sure!Sold for $130k... but that $130k knockout bid was placed hours after the auction went live. Second highest bid was down at $50k. Odd.
(Just kidding, of course!)
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Bring a Trailer (BaT) Auctions: Worth Listing Your Car or Not?
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(Just kidding, of course!)
Another re-list.
Dealer auction ended RNM in December 2022, bid to $69k:
bringatrailer.com
Same dealer, same truck, listed again less than 4 months later in April 2023... again RNM, bid to $61k this time around:
bringatrailer.com
Relevant comment from the peanut gallery:
"I’m sorry, but if this didn’t sell back in December for $68,500 what makes you think someone’s going to bid more than that now? The market is going down and I feel that BAT shouldn’t let these dealers keep re-listing their cars that didn’t sell the first time around. Kindly try to sell it elsewhere or step up and do a No Reserve Auction. Good luck, I think you’ll likely need it."
Dealer auction ended RNM in December 2022, bid to $69k:
3,000-Mile 1991 GMC Syclone
Bid for the chance to own a 3,000-Mile 1991 GMC Syclone at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #94,083.
Same dealer, same truck, listed again less than 4 months later in April 2023... again RNM, bid to $61k this time around:
3k-Mile 1991 GMC Syclone
Bid for the chance to own a 3k-Mile 1991 GMC Syclone at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #103,979.
Relevant comment from the peanut gallery:
"I’m sorry, but if this didn’t sell back in December for $68,500 what makes you think someone’s going to bid more than that now? The market is going down and I feel that BAT shouldn’t let these dealers keep re-listing their cars that didn’t sell the first time around. Kindly try to sell it elsewhere or step up and do a No Reserve Auction. Good luck, I think you’ll likely need it."
Douggie's new pardners are rolling out C&B PPI's. I expect BaHaT will be copying them soon.
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Wow. To be fair though, at least in my neck of the woods, in residential real estate, every seller pays for an inspection and attaches a copy of that inspection report to the disclosure package for potential buyers. Makes for an easier sale if the inspection comes back clean.
Key points:
1-$199 buys you ~30 minutes of hands-on time from an actual qualified "inspector." Assuming this is performed on-site at the seller's location.
2-The Seller gets to "review and approve" the report.
Curious about whether the seller has the option to memory-hole a negative report? Or will the seller have the right to modify anything contained therein?
IMO, this "inspection" will be worth only slightly more than the paper upon which it is printed.
1-$199 buys you ~30 minutes of hands-on time from an actual qualified "inspector." Assuming this is performed on-site at the seller's location.
2-The Seller gets to "review and approve" the report.
Curious about whether the seller has the option to memory-hole a negative report? Or will the seller have the right to modify anything contained therein?
IMO, this "inspection" will be worth only slightly more than the paper upon which it is printed.
Why would a SELLER commission an inspection up front? The potential for bias creeps in when a seller does that (whether a house or a car).
If I ever bought a house (or car) where a seller provided a PPI, I'd shit-can it in the round file out of hand, and commission my own independent inspection, where the inspector has MY interests in mind.
For an E500E, I would want at least 2 hours of inspection of the car, from a mechanic who at MINIMUM is very familiar with the W124, and preferably is familiar with / has worked on the E500E specifically. This would entail time on the lift, as well as a thorough/varied road test. When I lived in Portland, I helped arrange my local shop MBI Motors to do several PPIs for cars for sale in the Portland area for out-of-state buyers. These inspections would typically run $150-250 and were money well spent.
With 30 minutes of time, by a "generalist" inspector, looking at an E500E, you aren't going to get squat.
I did the same with my boat purchase last year, from an independent, licensed marine inspector. Many if not most marine insurers as well as lenders (if getting a marine loan) would REQUIRE this out of hand for a boat purchase, unless the boat was a year old or less.
Attached is an example (nothing to do with my boat / sale) of a marine inspection report from the guy who performed the inspection of my boat. Just to illustrate what a marine PPI is......
Just sayin'.
If I ever bought a house (or car) where a seller provided a PPI, I'd shit-can it in the round file out of hand, and commission my own independent inspection, where the inspector has MY interests in mind.
For an E500E, I would want at least 2 hours of inspection of the car, from a mechanic who at MINIMUM is very familiar with the W124, and preferably is familiar with / has worked on the E500E specifically. This would entail time on the lift, as well as a thorough/varied road test. When I lived in Portland, I helped arrange my local shop MBI Motors to do several PPIs for cars for sale in the Portland area for out-of-state buyers. These inspections would typically run $150-250 and were money well spent.
With 30 minutes of time, by a "generalist" inspector, looking at an E500E, you aren't going to get squat.
I did the same with my boat purchase last year, from an independent, licensed marine inspector. Many if not most marine insurers as well as lenders (if getting a marine loan) would REQUIRE this out of hand for a boat purchase, unless the boat was a year old or less.
Attached is an example (nothing to do with my boat / sale) of a marine inspection report from the guy who performed the inspection of my boat. Just to illustrate what a marine PPI is......
Just sayin'.
I saw that, too. I wondered why BaT wouldn't have been first, since it's certainly something that fits their business model well.
Buddy of mine just sold a 1985 300CD on BaT that was a really nice car. The peanut gallery was really, really a pain, and created a lot of consternation for him. It bordered on being adversarial. He ended up getting over $17k for the car, but was really ragged by the end of it.
Dan
Buddy of mine just sold a 1985 300CD on BaT that was a really nice car. The peanut gallery was really, really a pain, and created a lot of consternation for him. It bordered on being adversarial. He ended up getting over $17k for the car, but was really ragged by the end of it.
Dan
For what it's worth, nearly every house we've sold over the years got a PPI before we put it on the market. It was not offered to potential buyers - they can pay for their own. Why? Because then we know what to expect from a buyer's inspection as well as having a laundry list of things to correct (or not) before we market the house. Either way, it's money well spent.
My concern over paying an inspector to go over a car would be the depth of their knowledge of that car. I'm betting they work off a standard/generic inspection sheet that has little or nothing that addresses the car in depth or detail. Worthless in my opinion.
Dan
I have no problem with this as a proactive strategy, but I would NEVER try to pawn my own inspection off on a buyer. Though I've owned four houses, and helped my mom sell one, and never gotten a PPI up front for self-information.
And every house I've owned has been pretty well taken care of along the way, so I've never had a surprise come up in a buyer's PPI. For my very first house, a 1910 Craftsman in Portland that I bought in 1996 and sold in 2000, we did (proactively before putting it on the market) have a buried and non-used heating oil tank in the back-yard dug up and decommissioned. This was because we knew any prospective buyer would want a certificate of decommissioning of any tanks. It was sort of a hot-button at the time.
Exactly the point I raised earlier. Very few folks will have the knowledge for a pedestrian W124 or even a Mercedes-Benz, let alone an .034/.036.
I think you have to have thick skin as a seller. It's not worth letting the stress from others get to you. We've seen more than a few HaT E500E sellers on this forum who people like @cascade have literally driven bonkers with PunchLists®, and forum members with PeanutGallery™ comments.
It could be posited that individuals like @cascade (here) and "UnhingedTroll" (on HaT) have demonstrably & permanently raised the blood pressure of a few sellers, if not taking weeks or months off of their collective lives.......probably not something for these individuals to be proud of.
Have not sold a car on BAT since 2017 (my C43).
Just listed an E320 Cab I have had for 17 years (it's in great condition) - I tried to make any/every imperfection evident in the photo's - sometimes I think it will be to the detriment, focusing too much on the "negative" vs. others, but so be it. I don't like surprises when it comes to buying cars and ideally can make sure new owner doesn't get one. You never know on BAT, I saw a guy/gal win white E320 Cab the other day and he/she is new to BAT and his/her final comment after the win was "Thanks, I hope it is all it’s represented to be". That would concern me as the seller.
In any case, I am selling mine for a Charity for specific medical research.
We'll see how it goes.
bringatrailer.com
Just listed an E320 Cab I have had for 17 years (it's in great condition) - I tried to make any/every imperfection evident in the photo's - sometimes I think it will be to the detriment, focusing too much on the "negative" vs. others, but so be it. I don't like surprises when it comes to buying cars and ideally can make sure new owner doesn't get one. You never know on BAT, I saw a guy/gal win white E320 Cab the other day and he/she is new to BAT and his/her final comment after the win was "Thanks, I hope it is all it’s represented to be". That would concern me as the seller.
In any case, I am selling mine for a Charity for specific medical research.
We'll see how it goes.
No Reserve: 36k-Mile 1995 Mercedes-Benz E320 Cabriolet
Bid for the chance to own a No Reserve: 36k-Mile 1995 Mercedes-Benz E320 Cabriolet at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #106,126.
Hi Tim,Wow that car looks impeccable, @msq. Awesome that you are doing this for charity- best of luck with the auction and let us know how things are with your beautiful blue E60- any updates/photos would be much appreciated
Hope you are well. Good to hear from you. I just took the E60 out of winter storage and did my "Spring" fluids thing (street sweeping happened last two weeks or so, so roads are finally cleaned up). I have to find an OEM antenna motor (have not had '90's 124 where this did not eventually go) - apparently OEM from MB is NLA, but you can find refurbed ones. I may buy the Hirschmann plastic gears and have it refurbed myself. I will try to post some pics soon of the car. This year I'll be able to drive it a bit more finally.
The A124 Cab is in great shape - it's been a fun car - I will miss it. Super reliable, quiet ride. I thought I would be a "never sell" car, however it's for a really good cause.
Hi Mark, so glad to hear that all is well with your mean machine and that you will get to drive it a bit this year! Have a look at this offer of a NOS antenna, @msq. I'm not 100% sure if it is the right antenna, since your car is a European version, but I'm sure @gsxr could tell you in his sleep if it is the right part
NEW NOS automatic antenne for Mercedes-Benz R107 W123 W124 W126 R129 W140 W201
NEW NOS automatic antenne for Mercedes-Benz R107 W123 W124 W126 R129 W140 W201 This is a New Old Stock part, a new and original Mercedes-Benz part from old wa
www.mercedes-spareparts.com
I'm going to Europe at the end of May, so I can bring this part back with me if you decide to purchase it from this vendor. You can PM me for my German shipping address in case this comes into play (analogous to the power steering tank arrangement from some time ago).
Thanks a lot Tim.Hi Mark, so glad to hear that all is well with your mean machine and that you will get to drive it a bit this year! Have a look at this offer of a NOS antenna, @msq. Im not 100% sure if it is the right antenna, since your car is a European version, but Im sure @gsxr could tell you in his sleep if it is the right part
NEW NOS automatic antenne for Mercedes-Benz R107 W123 W124 W126 R129 W140 W201
NEW NOS automatic antenne for Mercedes-Benz R107 W123 W124 W126 R129 W140 W201 This is a New Old Stock part, a new and original Mercedes-Benz part from old wawww.mercedes-spareparts.com
Im going to Europe at the end of May, so I can bring this part back with me if you decide to purchase it from this vendor. You can PM me for my German shipping address in case this comes into play (analogous to the power steering tank arrangement from some time ago).
I think I can get a refurbed one from Becker Autosound in NJ (I spoke to them before I saw this) for about 200 USD, but I am looking at just getting the OEM internal gears (they are the ones that strip often) which are available and just refurb'ing one I have.
I very much appreciate the offer and I will let you know in next day or 2 via PM if I decide I just want to get the one above that you sent.
Safe travels!
To the question of this thread:
"Bring a Trailer (BaT) Auctions: Worth Listing Your Car or Not?"
My auction ended today.
For me, on this auction that answer to that question was "yes, for sure"
I think the real answer, overall for many is it "depends".
I sold a car there in 2016 and buyer flaked out and never followed through. BAT used to hide that when it happened, not good for seller.
Having said that back then BAT was "less corporate" far fewer (if any) dealers. Car I sold back that was when BAT had only sold ~3,000 cars in total since inception. They now list ~100 a day. It was more in their Wild West days back then - which I like. Now it's well over 100,000 cars sold and everything has a "process".
There's even a "BAT Charity" team that evaluates if you qualify to list it as a Charity. Even though mine was legit 501(c)(3) BAT did not want to list it as such, long story - some of it was my choosing.
(for Int'l crowd here, all 501(c)(3) means is it's legit Charity registered and approved by he IRS, the US Tax agency),
My experience this time overall was very positive.
I ended up with 3 different "Auction Managers", which I did not expect:
#1. When car was submitted - seemed his role was to marshal through "are we going to list this"
#2. Was a women named Michelle - she was excellent, on the ball, helpful, proactive. Seems like her role was to made sure it was written up properly and to get it prepped for listing
#3. Third Auction Manager came in as soon as they listed - not much for him to do.
Why for this Auction for me it was a "yes for sure, it was worth listing on BAT" is the following (most of you know this stuff RE: BAT anyway)
- I paid a professional Photographer, I was surprised how inexpensive it was (next closet guy in my area was 2x price vs. guy I worked with and I bet in CA it would be 3x what I paid). In addition to good pics I wanted guy who could also focus in on each individual imperfection (e.g scratch on my car was not picked up on my iPhone when I tried). I did not want buyer having any surprises. You can get cars listed without one - but I would not bother for multiple reasons.
- I had the maintenance records for the car
- I posted paint meter readings
- I tried to anticipate any/every question for these cars '90's E320's and Cab specifically and cover that in either BAT write up or my intro to the car comment
- Videos I did were videos that were relevant to this model car
All in all it was at least 8 hours preparation (I thought photos were going to be 15 - 20 mins, I said to photographer "we'll be done by 9:15 or 9:20 right?" and he said "No, this will take 3 hours"......and it did. I had no clue.
- From submission to when it was posted was 2 weeks, but they tell you 3 weeks and I am sure, if it was my first time and I did not have those photos and all info related to car, it definitely would have been 3 weeks accounting for 1 week back and forth. I got their write up, edited it in 15 mins and we were done (they accepted some edits not others).
Biggest thing to keep in mind:
- they average ~700 cars listed at any one time
- assuming they are all 7 days auction (they are not but guess 90% are), that means ~100 new cars a day
- what that means is you are on their "front page" for <1 hour at best (nothing like the old days)....
- unless your car is lucky enough to be posted on their "carousel" on their front page (which is mostly >$100K cars now - or eclectic ones the BAT teams happens to like) - and since you will on their landing page for say 30 mins max.....YOU WILL GET VERY LITTLE VISIBILITY...so people will only see your car if they go looking for that make/model or they are subscribe to alerts for that kind of car (or if you look for certain models often enough I think BAT send you proactive alerts). I did the simple math one day: 60 cars on "carousel"/740 active listings = ~8% chance of being on their "carousel" on front page.
This whole experience was night vs. day vs. my 2016 listing......2016 I walked to my driveway, snapped a total of 30 lousy quality pics with my mobile phone, went in the house submitted to BAT and I was up in a day or two and my car was on landing page for much of the day, then over in the sidebar for most of the time. No way is that happening today - they would not accept that and even if they did you get 1/10th the visibility.
The commenters and bidders were by far the biggest pleasant surprise. Some super nice people proactively made donations to the Charity, even though they were not bidders. Knowledgable crowd in general (although not much to cover in the A124 as I tried to cover all the weaknesses and they are such solid cars in any case.) Some of the crowd from here were super nice and helpful (no surprise).
Apologies for long post:
Short answer to the topic/question of this thread:
It's a lot more work and $$ and time prepping a car for BAT than it used to be, also BAT is a lot more corporate (far more formal/structured), but for me, this time is was a very positive experience, the commenters and bidders were great to deal with and was actually a lot of fun.
I would do it again.
"Bring a Trailer (BaT) Auctions: Worth Listing Your Car or Not?"
My auction ended today.
For me, on this auction that answer to that question was "yes, for sure"
I think the real answer, overall for many is it "depends".
I sold a car there in 2016 and buyer flaked out and never followed through. BAT used to hide that when it happened, not good for seller.
Having said that back then BAT was "less corporate" far fewer (if any) dealers. Car I sold back that was when BAT had only sold ~3,000 cars in total since inception. They now list ~100 a day. It was more in their Wild West days back then - which I like. Now it's well over 100,000 cars sold and everything has a "process".
There's even a "BAT Charity" team that evaluates if you qualify to list it as a Charity. Even though mine was legit 501(c)(3) BAT did not want to list it as such, long story - some of it was my choosing.
(for Int'l crowd here, all 501(c)(3) means is it's legit Charity registered and approved by he IRS, the US Tax agency),
My experience this time overall was very positive.
I ended up with 3 different "Auction Managers", which I did not expect:
#1. When car was submitted - seemed his role was to marshal through "are we going to list this"
#2. Was a women named Michelle - she was excellent, on the ball, helpful, proactive. Seems like her role was to made sure it was written up properly and to get it prepped for listing
#3. Third Auction Manager came in as soon as they listed - not much for him to do.
Why for this Auction for me it was a "yes for sure, it was worth listing on BAT" is the following (most of you know this stuff RE: BAT anyway)
- I paid a professional Photographer, I was surprised how inexpensive it was (next closet guy in my area was 2x price vs. guy I worked with and I bet in CA it would be 3x what I paid). In addition to good pics I wanted guy who could also focus in on each individual imperfection (e.g scratch on my car was not picked up on my iPhone when I tried). I did not want buyer having any surprises. You can get cars listed without one - but I would not bother for multiple reasons.
- I had the maintenance records for the car
- I posted paint meter readings
- I tried to anticipate any/every question for these cars '90's E320's and Cab specifically and cover that in either BAT write up or my intro to the car comment
- Videos I did were videos that were relevant to this model car
All in all it was at least 8 hours preparation (I thought photos were going to be 15 - 20 mins, I said to photographer "we'll be done by 9:15 or 9:20 right?" and he said "No, this will take 3 hours"......and it did. I had no clue.
- From submission to when it was posted was 2 weeks, but they tell you 3 weeks and I am sure, if it was my first time and I did not have those photos and all info related to car, it definitely would have been 3 weeks accounting for 1 week back and forth. I got their write up, edited it in 15 mins and we were done (they accepted some edits not others).
Biggest thing to keep in mind:
- they average ~700 cars listed at any one time
- assuming they are all 7 days auction (they are not but guess 90% are), that means ~100 new cars a day
- what that means is you are on their "front page" for <1 hour at best (nothing like the old days)....
- unless your car is lucky enough to be posted on their "carousel" on their front page (which is mostly >$100K cars now - or eclectic ones the BAT teams happens to like) - and since you will on their landing page for say 30 mins max.....YOU WILL GET VERY LITTLE VISIBILITY...so people will only see your car if they go looking for that make/model or they are subscribe to alerts for that kind of car (or if you look for certain models often enough I think BAT send you proactive alerts). I did the simple math one day: 60 cars on "carousel"/740 active listings = ~8% chance of being on their "carousel" on front page.
This whole experience was night vs. day vs. my 2016 listing......2016 I walked to my driveway, snapped a total of 30 lousy quality pics with my mobile phone, went in the house submitted to BAT and I was up in a day or two and my car was on landing page for much of the day, then over in the sidebar for most of the time. No way is that happening today - they would not accept that and even if they did you get 1/10th the visibility.
The commenters and bidders were by far the biggest pleasant surprise. Some super nice people proactively made donations to the Charity, even though they were not bidders. Knowledgable crowd in general (although not much to cover in the A124 as I tried to cover all the weaknesses and they are such solid cars in any case.) Some of the crowd from here were super nice and helpful (no surprise).
Apologies for long post:
Short answer to the topic/question of this thread:
It's a lot more work and $$ and time prepping a car for BAT than it used to be, also BAT is a lot more corporate (far more formal/structured), but for me, this time is was a very positive experience, the commenters and bidders were great to deal with and was actually a lot of fun.
I would do it again.
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Thanks for sharing your experience, @msq! It definitely is a crapshoot now. The Peanut Gallery can sometimes be pleasant and helpful, but at other times it can be full of Unhinged Trolls spewing vitriol and incorrect/false information. No way to know what you'll get from that box of chocolates until the auction is live & running... helps to have a thick skin and mad diplomatic skillz.
ah, yes, the @unhingedtroll a very dangerous species, only seen 1 more time than Bigfoot. ;-)
Waiting in the woods with the Punchlist™
...ready to pounce on any unsuspecting publicly presented 124.
Quite dangerous and a vaccine won't even protect you.
Joking aside - it is a crapshoot, spot on - I had a guy on my 2016 C43 auction implying there could be problems in the car if someone drank something (I can't even remember and I'm not going to bother to look) and spilled their soda down the opening in the shifter gate. :-0
Waiting in the woods with the Punchlist™
...ready to pounce on any unsuspecting publicly presented 124.
Quite dangerous and a vaccine won't even protect you.
Joking aside - it is a crapshoot, spot on - I had a guy on my 2016 C43 auction implying there could be problems in the car if someone drank something (I can't even remember and I'm not going to bother to look) and spilled their soda down the opening in the shifter gate. :-0
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I think you are missing a part of the equation that BaT has probably grown their registered users and bidders many times over vs. the number of cars they list. That is perhaps why they can do 100 cars a day. I recently heard they crossed the 1 million registered users mark, probably hundreds of thousands more than they had in early 2017 when you first sold.
I think at the end of the day all that matters is that you sold your car for a great price and had a fair amount of effort in doing so.
yes very fair point about user base growth, what was an eye opener to me was how little time it stays on front page vs. what it used to be (which of course makes sense given their growth) and so little chance of being on that "carousel" on page 1 after that. So, even with a much larger user base (which means a lot more people looking at "page 1" at any given moment - a good thing) - someone has to go searching for your kind of car/model if they are not part of the crowd that happens to see your car during its "15 mins of fame" on page one. It was something I did not take into account (that was obvious, had I thought of it for even 1 min) and had I known that, I may have used other social media outlets (or other web presence) at the same as an adjunct to get more visibility (knowing you can not put it "for sale" on other sites while it is on BAT).
I am happy with the price and buyer seems like a really nice guy who will be a good steward to the car.
As I said, overall it was a very positive experience.
I think most serious BaT people use alerts, so someone looking for your car should have had an alert for it. I’ve gotten flooded with the E46M listings the last 2 years. If we think a lot of these got sold, BMW made 8x more E46M. So in the last two years it seemed like there were literally 8 E46M listings for every E5E listing. I have too many BaT alerts, need to thin that herd.
maw
maw
I am sure you are right (I also use alerts and the between BAT & Pcarmarket I think 1/2 the e-mails I have if/when I look in the morning are from those two - same deal for me, need to thin the herd).
If you put an alert for every Porsche on BAT your mailbox would be overwhelmed.
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I can't find details on this new "Alumni" tag. The two cars I see as Alumni under AMG's have no prior record on either BaT or Google.
Is BaT sweeping the previous auction under the rug, so you can't read the previous peanut gallery, and also can't see the previous sale price / photos / etc? Or am I misunderstanding the tag?
Example:
2018 Mercedes-AMG E63 S 4MATIC Wagon
Bid for the chance to own a 2018 Mercedes-AMG E63 S 4MATIC Wagon at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #107,402.
You can always post the URL from the auction thread here to the new auction. That way people can find the previous commentary both here and there, as well as the Punch List.
Something tells me that @cascade, like mentions of this site, are probably persona non grata at BaT though. @UnhingedTroll does seem to still be active on that aite, though.
Something tells me that @cascade, like mentions of this site, are probably persona non grata at BaT though. @UnhingedTroll does seem to still be active on that aite, though.
From the "Alumni" White wagon above which BaT flagged as "TMU"... either BaT changed their process, or the auction mangler really dropped the ball:
I’m a bit bewildered by why BaT listed our car this way [as TMU], without even mentioning to me the issue of the carfax. We didn’t even get to preview [the listing] before it went up. Now we have people questioning the legitimacy of the mileage, and it is flatly without question an actual miles car, and the mileage we have it listed at is in fact the correct and true mileage. Had we had any idea there was a Carfax issue from a service entry, I would have came unglued over it and had the dealership fix it BEFORE the listing went up. We’ve never sold a car on this format before, so we’re figuring this stuff out on the fly. Im hopeful that BaT can help me navigate this issue quickly. I’ve reached out and im waiting for a reply.
At the time of the Amelia Island Concours and Auctions this year, there were 2 500Es for sale. At the time there was one 500E for sale on BAT. I thought that it was a good opportunity to compare results. The 2 Sotheby's sold for the 50000 to 60000 range. The one at Bat brought about 32000. Albeit there may some serious differences but i thought that the heavy hitters were at the auction and this level of money was nothing when a Ferrari 250 SWB spyder sold for 18 million. I may talk to the auction companies about my car when i wish to sell.
I assume you mean the Bat car linked below for $32k, and the next two Amelia cars for ~$70k. The $32k car had twice the miles and some worse-than-typical wear on the interior (hole in steering wheel leather, badly cracked console wood, tear in rear seat backrest leather, broken console roll-top, sagging headliner). Also had oddities like paint peeling off the CAN box cover, and a number of modifications / non-stock components. Not the best comparison, but the two Amelia cars did return strong results.
$32k, 144kmi:
1992 Mercedes-Benz 500E
Bid for the chance to own a 1992 Mercedes-Benz 500E at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #98,750.
$67k, 82kmi:
1992 Mercedes-Benz 500 E sold at Broad Arrow Amelia (2023) - CLASSIC.COM
Get prices, comps, alerts and more on this 1992 Mercedes-Benz 500 E sold at Broad Arrow Amelia (2023).
$72k, 65kmi:
1992 Mercedes-Benz 500E sold at Gooding Christie's Amelia (2023) - CLASSIC.COM
Get prices, comps, alerts and more on this 1992 Mercedes-Benz 500E sold at Gooding Christie's Amelia (2023).
This seller is getting a do-over... probably a good idea:
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Another effort to profit take or get rid of a car I have tired of?
30k-Mile 2005 Mercedes-Benz E320 CDI For Sale | The MB Market
Sold previously last year for a lot more ($28k) and with lower miles (19kmi):
19k-Mile 2005 Mercedes-Benz E320 CDI For Sale | The MB Market
Dan
30k-Mile 2005 Mercedes-Benz E320 CDI For Sale | The MB Market
Sold previously last year for a lot more ($28k) and with lower miles (19kmi):
19k-Mile 2005 Mercedes-Benz E320 CDI For Sale | The MB Market
Dan
Sold for $21k this time. Drove for 1 year / 11kmi and took a ~$10k loss. Ouch! Good buy for the new owner though.
Interesting way for sellers to insulate themselves from questions from buyers... have a third party list it for you? Hmmm. Sure seems like a consignment dealer "identifying" as private party, or "listing service". 
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I wonder what will happen with this expensive Brazilian... Desert Taupe over Brazil interior. Neat car, but apparently a bidder who thought BaHaT works like eBay? Or just a typo when bidding?
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It’ll be for sale again. Nice car but not $20k nice at this time.I wonder what will happen with this expensive Brazilian... Desert Taupe over Brazil interior. Neat car, but apparently a bidder who thought BaHaT works like eBay? Or just a typo when bidding?
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Oof - RE: the 300TE 
Sucks for the seller too
I'm thinking about trying BaT for a 3rd time. 1st was with a 1993 300E 2.8... 2nd was a 2009 CL63. Both experiences were pretty good!
My current 1994 SL320 is pretty well sorted but I got no action when I listed it locally on Craigslist. BaT is pretty good about approving "lower end" cars (which mine would be, in comparison to the exotic / 1 owner / rare / etc cars) and it does get a lot of eyeballs
Will have to think it over and maybe submit an application to them. In the meantime, if anyone is interested in an R129 shoot me a DM
Sucks for the seller tooI'm thinking about trying BaT for a 3rd time. 1st was with a 1993 300E 2.8... 2nd was a 2009 CL63. Both experiences were pretty good!
My current 1994 SL320 is pretty well sorted but I got no action when I listed it locally on Craigslist. BaT is pretty good about approving "lower end" cars (which mine would be, in comparison to the exotic / 1 owner / rare / etc cars) and it does get a lot of eyeballs
Will have to think it over and maybe submit an application to them. In the meantime, if anyone is interested in an R129 shoot me a DM
Looks like they released a dedicated iOS app. Seems quicker than the mobile site.
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Dude buys what looks like a nice 300TE from Oregon in May 2022 for ~$13k all in ($11k + fees + transport to NJ). Then he plunks down another $3k to figure out why it's running hot, and seemingly gives up by Sept-2022 (no invoices after that). Only added 1kmi after purchase.
$16k later he gives up and relists on BaHaT as a "project" with no reserve... that's gotta hurt.
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$16k later he gives up and relists on BaHaT as a "project" with no reserve... that's gotta hurt.
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The bond market is telling him he'd rather have the cash than the project.
Wayment... the 300TE in 1992 had 4Matic?? That's a nice car for the right person, but $16k was always a stretch IMO. If you get it for $10k and know how to get it right, then you keep it forever (or until parts run out, whichever comes first).
I say this as I contemplate buying a non-runner Allroad 4.2 for candy money as a parts car (my doors and hatch are starting to show rust, this would be cheaper and better than any collision work). Same factory color is the key. Not listed on BaT, obviously.
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