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Bring a Trailer (BaT) Auctions: Worth Listing Your Car or Not?
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Brace yourself before looking at the selling price.
Holy cow that's insane, I know it's low miles but seriously folks it's an E30 M3, nothing more, wow that's "incroyable" for my Quebec friends
Interesting bidding patterns and results on this one...
No Reserve: 1986 Mercedes-Benz 300E 5-Speed
Bid for the chance to own a No Reserve: 1986 Mercedes-Benz 300E 5-Speed at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #34,154.bringatrailer.com
David Hendy has a red 92 300E sportline that's been converted to a 5 speed (plus 3.27 diff). He has done a ton of maintenance work to the car and it drives really well. The car will be put it up for sale very soon- not on BAT.
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Interesting bidding patterns and results on this one...
No Reserve: 1986 Mercedes-Benz 300E 5-Speed
Bid for the chance to own a No Reserve: 1986 Mercedes-Benz 300E 5-Speed at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #34,154.
Two bidders went to the mat over this car. The car really it does look brand new BUT it also has 101K miles on it. $30K for it seems way over the top to me for what the car is. You would be lucky to get $500.00 for 99.9% of these early models.
I would like to know the process that Lambauch uses on the undercarriage to make them look so nice.
I sold my 86 300E with 115K miles on it for under $5K about 25 years ago. It was in great condition but nothing like this example.
Terry, pretty sure that is dry ice blasting. Machines are $$$ but if you have a shop nearby that does it, the result is amazing. See link below. I don't know if ColdJet wants to be associated with EAG though (thought they were the Bimmer equivalent of BHCC?).
blog.coldjet.com
Clean your BMW with dry ice
Enthusiast Auto Group can remain at the top of the market for BMW rejuvenation with dry ice blasting for its undercarriage cleaning.
blog.coldjet.com
Step-brother? Brother from another mother? Either way, big money for these.
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1995 Audi RS2 Avant
Bid for the chance to own a 1995 Audi RS2 Avant at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #34,267.
Many Bidders are irrational. Low miles and something quirky rules the roost. $250k for an 8k mile E30 M3 that had a fender repaint (low miles) and $30k for a 100k mile 300E with a 5-speed tranny (quirky). For some strange reason, bidders seem to give a pass to dealers/flippers on zero maintenance and nit-pick owner/sellers. Anything Dean Laumbach sells goes for ++ money - he generally has very nice lower mileage cars that he details to the nth degree (i.e. - dry ice blasting shown above) but his cars generally have no recent maintenance except for oil and maybe brake fluid. Paint correction and blasted under carriage is nice, but pales in comparison to $10k of deferred maintenance....
Terry, pretty sure that is dry ice blasting. Machines are $$$ but if you have a shop nearby that does it, the result is amazing. See link below. I don't know if ColdJet wants to be associated with EAG though (thought they were the Bimmer equivalent of BHCC?).
Clean your BMW with dry ice
Enthusiast Auto Group can remain at the top of the market for BMW rejuvenation with dry ice blasting for its undercarriage cleaning.
Dave,
Thanks for the info. Laumbach does an outstanding job with that ice blasting on the undercarriage's of the cars he sells.
It probably added $10K to that 300E
I predict that JC220 will have one shortly.
lol
No question. Perhaps @captruff too!
One of the rarest AMGs ...
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1991 Mitsubishi Galant AMG Type II 5-Speed
Bid for the chance to own a 1991 Mitsubishi Galant AMG Type II 5-Speed at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #34,898.
One of the rarest AMGs ...
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1991 Mitsubishi Galant AMG Type II 5-Speed
Bid for the chance to own a 1991 Mitsubishi Galant AMG Type II 5-Speed at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #34,898.
Have to wonder why they didn't use the VR4 as the base for the AMG mods. That car was a beast back in the day. Came very close to buying one in '91. The tiny local Mitsu dealer had two of them on the lot and they had no clue how to get them sold. Scared me off. Went over to Honda and got a Prelude Si. lol
The VR4 was AWD and nearly 200 hp. Powering a car that had all the substance of a beer can.
One of the rarest AMGs ...
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1991 Mitsubishi Galant AMG Type II 5-Speed
Bid for the chance to own a 1991 Mitsubishi Galant AMG Type II 5-Speed at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #34,898.
@Harv
How interesting,
In 1988 I bought a new “Demo” 88 Galant. It was top of the line w/ all options. Blk/Grey Leather. Being a Dealer Demo it had 3,400 miles on it.
Along w/ the Galant I also purchased a 87 Starion also a new “Demo” w/ 700 miles on it. I paid $30K cash for both cars.
These were and still are the first “NEW” cars that I have owned.
I drove both cars to about 135K miles when I sold them. These are what I call “Throw Away Cars” Got nothing for them. $3,500.00 for the Starion and about the same for the Galant.
Only problem with the Starion was a blown head gasket. My own fault after washing the engine and going for a drive to dry off the motor it backfired. OOPS!
I must say the Starion w/ the 2.5 liter turbo motor was a blast to drive. Unfortunately mine was an automatic. It was quick but the 5 speed would have been even more fun. I did miss it after it was gone.
AMG could have made the Starion a real bomb.
While the Galant was a nice driver for only 140 HP. It had re-occurring problems. Front air shocks failed twice. Note w/ the automatic air suspension the car would lower itself at speed.
The trans started acting up at about 20K miles. After many visits to the Dealer they went thru it 4 times under warranty before it ran out at 36K miles.
At 65K miles it went out again. Mitsubishi Dealer said they wanted $3,800.00 for a new trans and converter. I complained bitterly to the Mitsubishi Customer Relations Dept. I ended up paying the Dealer $200.00 to install a brand new trans & converter. I drove the new trans 70K miles before selling the car.
I would have to say, I liked the 88 Galant’s body style much better than the 89 and up cars.
These were my first and last “NEW CAR” purchases.
I know TMI
lol
BaT Market Snapshot: July 2020
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Uh, yes please.
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1994 Porsche 928 GTS 5-Speed
Bid for the chance to own a 1994 Porsche 928 GTS 5-Speed at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #35,036.
Neat car. 350hp from 5.4L is right on target for this era engine. But 380 at the wheels post-modification from 5.4L is crazy optimistic; it would translate into ~450hp at the crank, and >80hp per liter, same as the M156.
That's like claiming an E60 AMG can put down 380-420rwhp and make 475-500hp at the crank. Unpossible with normal aspiration. Of course there's no dyno sheet, lol. Take about 10% off the claims and it's probably near reality.
The crack-pipery was strong with this one...
$32K all in????
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And the clowns in the peanut gallery.... "Well bought"
$32K all in????
No Reserve: 2002 Mercedes-Benz SL500
Bid for the chance to own a No Reserve: 2002 Mercedes-Benz SL500 at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #34,853.
And the clowns in the peanut gallery.... "Well bought"
I don't follow the R129 market closely, but it seemed like M120 money for an M113.
^^^^^^
This.
Dan
It's not an M120.
It didn't have delivery miles.
It's not an SA.
So it's not "collectible" in any sense of the word that I know.
And I'm not really into triple black roadsters, either.
But as @gsxr pointed out... there was a line of guys throwing money at this example, so maybe I'm the one who's missing something.
It didn't have delivery miles.
It's not an SA.
So it's not "collectible" in any sense of the word that I know.
And I'm not really into triple black roadsters, either.
But as @gsxr pointed out... there was a line of guys throwing money at this example, so maybe I'm the one who's missing something.
He does seem to be pulling in about 50% above pedestrian market prices with his DLFC. I wonder how much of that 50% he takes as commission.
Looks like a job for @ace10 to find out. Or perhaps @The Emperor can force-choke it out of DL.
Looks like a job for @ace10 to find out. Or perhaps @The Emperor can force-choke it out of DL.
The crack-pipery was strong with this one...
$32K all in????
No Reserve: 2002 Mercedes-Benz SL500
Bid for the chance to own a No Reserve: 2002 Mercedes-Benz SL500 at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #34,853.
And the clowns in the peanut gallery.... "Well bought"
I think DL's reputation and the undercarriage detailing is what's getting him the BIG BUCKS. Every car he has detailed has gotten way over what it's worth. The $30K he got for the 86 300E with what was it 100K+ miles has sold me on this guy's methods. So far he is the best "Presenter/Seller" I have ever seen. I think others will be catching on to he is doing and pretty soon you will see other sellers doing similar detailing.
I say buy' the same car with the same miles (around 45K) from another seller and go spend whatever the dryice machine costs do your own detailing and save about $10K
If I were selling that RennTech 500E 6.0 I sure would consider it a plus to do the "Dry Ice Detailing". I'm just thinking out loud but I would guess that it could raise whatever the selling price is by $20K. This is just my opinion. I'm sure to get some flack for just saying it.
lol
VERY COOL
I think we are going to see a lot of these things in the future.
VERY COOL
I think we are going to see a lot of these things in the future.
The one bad thing I see is that it covers such a small working area. Think about how many hours it would take to do the whole undercarriage of that Porsche. Not only would the equipment be a big spend, but the labor to do the cleaning wouldn't be small, either. At least not from the looks of things.
I like. I want.
Dan
How's this for a comp?
carsandbids.com
Ended yesterday. Final year. M113. 69K miles. AMG styling. No pano roof.
Sold for $15400 all in.
2002 Mercedes-Benz SL500 - V8-Powered, Final-Year SL with Under 70,000 Miles
This 2002 Mercedes-Benz SL500 is for sale on Cars & Bids! Auction ends August 6 2020.
Ended yesterday. Final year. M113. 69K miles. AMG styling. No pano roof.
Sold for $15400 all in.
Keith Martin on how a BaT seller gets top dollar:
www.sportscarmarket.com
Keith’s Blog: How a BaT Seller gets Top Dollar - Sports Car Market
We just had our 4th weekly SCM Live Zoom session. Each week on Thursday at noon PST, we ask SCM experts to join us and predict the sale price of cars
Circling back to the discussion about dry ice cleaning...
Prior to this spectacular 80 Series going live on BaT this week, I was in contact with the seller in order to feel out a price range. The pictures of the interior and body are spectacular, but the underside is a real letdown. Fluid leaks and dealer-applied rust proof.
I suggested to him that blasting all the crud off would result in many X return on investment. He didn't go for it, and I think there will be $5-10K left on the table. Bear in mind that the bids have already well xceeded the 1997 MSRP.
Fix the leaks:
Clean the goo off:
This truck might hit $80-100K. It really shouldn't look this crappy underneath.
Prior to this spectacular 80 Series going live on BaT this week, I was in contact with the seller in order to feel out a price range. The pictures of the interior and body are spectacular, but the underside is a real letdown. Fluid leaks and dealer-applied rust proof.
I suggested to him that blasting all the crud off would result in many X return on investment. He didn't go for it, and I think there will be $5-10K left on the table. Bear in mind that the bids have already well xceeded the 1997 MSRP.
Fix the leaks:
Clean the goo off:
This truck might hit $80-100K. It really shouldn't look this crappy underneath.
From these folks in Mass:
Dry Ice Undercarriage Cleaning for Classic Cars | Nitrofreeze
We successfully helped a customer clean the undercarriage of their classic car with dry ice cleaning. Learn more about this project online at Nitrofreeze.
"...We dry ice blasted three car undercarriages in less than 12 hours. That equates to about one car every four hours... there are two people working..."
From these folks in Mass:
Dry Ice Undercarriage Cleaning for Classic Cars | Nitrofreeze
We successfully helped a customer clean the undercarriage of their classic car with dry ice cleaning. Learn more about this project online at Nitrofreeze.nitrofreeze.com
"...We dry ice blasted three car undercarriages in less than 12 hours. That equates to about one car every four hours... there are two people working..."
As I figured - 8 hours to do an undercarriage. I wonder what the bill was for that.
Dan
Beck's European did a Dry Ice blasting on a 964 that is live on BaT. Invoices says $1,200.
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One-Family-Owned 1990 Porsche 911 Carrera 4 5-Speed
Bid for the chance to own a One-Family-Owned 1990 Porsche 911 Carrera 4 5-Speed at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #35,138.
Beck's European did a Dry Ice blasting on a 964 that is live on BaT. Invoices says $1,200.
One-Family-Owned 1990 Porsche 911 Carrera 4 5-Speed
Bid for the chance to own a One-Family-Owned 1990 Porsche 911 Carrera 4 5-Speed at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #35,138.
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That seems realistic.
Dan
Agreed. Maybe 1500+ to do an SUV.
Another later M113-powered R129.
41K miles. Sold for just under $18K all in.
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41K miles. Sold for just under $18K all in.
No Reserve: 41k-Mile 1999 Mercedes-Benz SL500
Bid for the chance to own a No Reserve: 41k-Mile 1999 Mercedes-Benz SL500 at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #35,111.
I'm still hung up on the ridiculous R129 result a couple of weeks ago.
Here's another later R129.
2000 SL500 Triple black. AMG styling. Pano Roof. 24000 miles.
Offered by Park Place.... a store which is known more for their sky-high asking prices than anything else.... at least in my book.
$23,950
Here's another later R129.
2000 SL500 Triple black. AMG styling. Pano Roof. 24000 miles.
Offered by Park Place.... a store which is known more for their sky-high asking prices than anything else.... at least in my book.
$23,950
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