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Discussion: 400E/E420 subforum
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Re: W124 canvas print
That was a swift response...
Yep, And baiters are gonna bait...
...I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake shake... Shake it off...
That was a swift response...
Motor oil? Who cares? Parchment VS. Mushroom? Not important. What we really need an answer to is: Would it be detrimental to my transmission to short the "B" switch to get FGS all the time?
LOL! Was that actually a divisive debate topic here, or perhaps anywhere else? If so, I missed it, and would particularly appreciate being brought up to speed on it. That had to be entertaining...
Oil, coolant and ATF have been well discussed here, but never even close to as heated as on other forums, thankfully. The issue has been pretty much settled, thanks to GSXR (who seems to be an assistant to Bob of the "Bob Is The Oil Guy" forum).
Key Fluid Recommendations
Motor Oil: Red Line (GSXR) or Motul (szvook)
Coolant: Zerex G-05
ATF: Red Line D4 or High Temp (GSXR)
Key Fluid Recommendations
Motor Oil: Red Line (GSXR) or Motul (szvook)
Coolant: Zerex G-05
ATF: Red Line D4 or High Temp (GSXR)
Oh yeah? Let that "other human being" answer "No!" when I pull up and ask him if he has any Grey Poupon and watch what happens!
I don't get this constant bickering. I don't feel less worth on this forum, however I do respect that it is a .036-forum. I've gotten tons of help from many of you, I don't have time to or feel like arguing with my fellow 124/Mercedes/car/motor - enthusiasts. So I tend to steer away from these discussions. I'm also a mod at one of Swedens largest Mercedes boards, so I know how frustrating these issues can be.
Bottom line; If you are a .034 die hard fan (like me for instance), don't come on this board boasting that the .034 is faster due to whatever ludacris rumour you can think of. A .036's got around 50 more bhp. Plus... you are a guest on a forum, point. Not a specific one necessary, but a forum. Quit behaving in another fashion to what you would do face to face, show respect and understanding. Then, consider the fact that this is a .036 forum. Are you visiting the NRA forum screaming out that knives beats guns hands down? Didn't think so.
I like it here, we have a .036 in the family as well, but mainly I'm here to post updates in my owners thread (btw thanks for letting me have one!) and asking questions that usually relates to 124 cars in general or .034/036 cars together. The knowledge around here is second to none in our quite small niche of automobiles. Lets take care of that and each other.
Now then, time for the diplomatic socialist (well not so much but still) Swede to shut up!
Bottom line; If you are a .034 die hard fan (like me for instance), don't come on this board boasting that the .034 is faster due to whatever ludacris rumour you can think of. A .036's got around 50 more bhp. Plus... you are a guest on a forum, point. Not a specific one necessary, but a forum. Quit behaving in another fashion to what you would do face to face, show respect and understanding. Then, consider the fact that this is a .036 forum. Are you visiting the NRA forum screaming out that knives beats guns hands down? Didn't think so.
I like it here, we have a .036 in the family as well, but mainly I'm here to post updates in my owners thread (btw thanks for letting me have one!) and asking questions that usually relates to 124 cars in general or .034/036 cars together. The knowledge around here is second to none in our quite small niche of automobiles. Lets take care of that and each other.
Now then, time for the diplomatic socialist (well not so much but still) Swede to shut up!
It's all good, Thomas. My opinion echoes your points exactly. This is an .036 forum, bottom line, with a nod to a few other models that are both closely and distantly related.
Whenever & wherever the information here can benefit non-.036 owners, who are always welcome, that's a great bonus for everyone !! But there is no special accommodation made for non-036 owners except for a few sub-forums.
I think I've made it clear that the focus for this site will remain near-exclusively for the .036.
I know this makes the "pro-W124/M119" crowd unhappy, but maintaining a focused forum is the key to continued success, as is focus with anything in life.
There are some great, other dedicated resources out there for W124 V-8 owners such as the Benzworld 124 V-8 forum, the MBCA 500E sub-forum, PeachParts forum, Nastsonderfahrzeuge, and so forth.
Cheers,
Gerry
Whenever & wherever the information here can benefit non-.036 owners, who are always welcome, that's a great bonus for everyone !! But there is no special accommodation made for non-036 owners except for a few sub-forums.
I think I've made it clear that the focus for this site will remain near-exclusively for the .036.
I know this makes the "pro-W124/M119" crowd unhappy, but maintaining a focused forum is the key to continued success, as is focus with anything in life.
There are some great, other dedicated resources out there for W124 V-8 owners such as the Benzworld 124 V-8 forum, the MBCA 500E sub-forum, PeachParts forum, Nastsonderfahrzeuge, and so forth.
Cheers,
Gerry
Most entertaining oil style topic to date wasn't on here. It was the bone head on banz werld who was praising the use of Dex 6 in his W-124 trans.
It also is one of the reasons I avoid that forum like the plague!!!
Are there a few here who's ego arrives days before them yep but at least the info here is factual and you don't have a bunch of BS to wade through to get something accurate.
I can handle a few arrogant elitists who think their
don't stink but give me factual data better than the bunch of 
on the "other" v-8 124 forum who give me so much BS info 
!!Heck I have spent much of my life in politics so I'm used to dealing with a few arrogant elitist
For the record... Dex-6 won't hurt anything in a W124 auto tranny. However, my personal preference is to use a fluid with the viscosity the trans was designed for. Some folks have used Dex-6 with zero problems. Dex-6 is more likely to work well in a freshly rebuilt trans than an older high-miler though. To really stir things up, Jono recommends trying Type F (yes, Ford!) fluid in problematic/slipping boxes!! whooooo!
Sort of. MB fluid specs are always "special" with their own tweak to the formula, but I think in general, both 236.12 and 236.14 are variations of Dex-6 "thin" fluids.
The last MB "thick" fluid was 236.10, which is basically a fully synthetic Dex-3, created for the first 722.6 trannies in 1996.
Dex 6 can be REALLY hard on some types of synthetic seals and such as it is very corrosive to some materials. Bottom line using that particular fluid in a box not designed for it is a REALLY bad idea in the long term.For the record... Dex-6 won't hurt anything in a W124 auto tranny. However, my personal preference is to use a fluid with the viscosity the trans was designed for. Some folks have used Dex-6 with zero problems. Dex-6 is more likely to work well in a freshly rebuilt trans than an older high-miler though. To really stir things up, Jono recommends trying Type F (yes, Ford!) fluid in problematic/slipping boxes!! whooooo!
Type F i can see as it is not as "slippery" and will tighten up the shifts on bout anything. We used to run it in our Turbo 350's and 400's back when I ran hot Pontiac's. Bit so had with the 600 + hp 455's I ran it would rip hunks out of the clutch disks the size of dimes if you ran the pressures to high. It's harder on bushings and such as it doesn't lube as well and most other ATF's do but it won't eat stuff up like Dex 6 does!!
Yerp in a hot climate ta boot! That's a M119 / 722.3 combo that are not long for this world!
Sort of. MB fluid specs are always "special" with their own tweak to the formula, but I think in general, both 236.12 and 236.14 are variations of Dex-6 "thin" fluids.
The last MB "thick" fluid was 236.10, which is basically a fully synthetic Dex-3, created for the first 722.6 trannies in 1996.
Yes Dex 6 is on the thin side but that's not the main issue with that fluid. It can be quite corrosive and eats many type seals and such like no body's business!
These 722's we have in our W124's are a little on the fragile side anyway so why take the risk?
I disagree. I think they are a pretty hardy transmission overall. May not be a THM or a TorqueFlite (I do admit that the Americans have the Germans completely outclassed when it comes to auto-boxes) but I definitely would not say that a .3 is a "fragile" transmission.
My .3 in my 560SEC is original and is still going strong at 229K miles.
The .3 in my former E320 wagon lasted around 203K before requiring a replacement.
It's relative and yep I agree that the euros all lagged the US stuff in building slush boxes for many years but they are catching up. We had been driving a bunch of stuff over the last couple months while looking for the wife a car ( she has been absolutely fixated on owning a Chrysler 200S from the very 1st time she saw one. I fought for ether a new 300C or a Volvo S60 but finally relented Friday and let her get what she wanted. A brand new well optioned 2015 V6 200S with the ZF 9speed auto and just over 300 miles now resides in the drive way. Saved me over 20K on the purchase price over where the Merc or Volvo would have been + I worked for the dealer as a Service Writer and know almost all the guys in the Service dept and got a killer deal because I also knew the owner of the dealership. The wife loves it
Rant over and now back on topic--. The Euro car auto trans have come a LONG way in the last few years I will tell you that.
Still in comparison to many other units I have had experience with over the years including the Asian Warner box in my Volvo I stand by my position that these are on the fragile side.
My concern with Dex VI was there were some really nasty issues with seal erosion in some type trans running the stuff. In particular it is well documented that changing to it totally destroyed all the seals in GM Allison units almost instantly.
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