EGS 51 Computer for 722.6 transmission

[Markus-MD]

Hallo from Germany.
Is everyone here and can programming such gearbox Modul?? I have an E50amg and have change the diff Ratio from 3,07 up to 2,65 and have fitted an EGS from r129 .runs ok shifting is also ok but not fine.Why the "Steuergerätekennung maybe Codenummber for sending of Can-bus" is not the same as original.When its works i want this unit put it in my 500e.The later egs52 is reprogramming but the EGS 51 Nobody can do this here in Germany

Regrads Markus sorry for bad english

 

[gsxr]

Markus, your E50 is a W210 chassis, not W124 chassis, correct? Also, is EGS the transmission computer (TCU)?

You wouldn't be able to use a 722.6 transmission with factory EGS/TCU in a W124 unless you also had the complete engine, computer modules, CAN, etc from the donor car. Huge project, not sure if anyone has successfully completed this swap.

 

[Markus-MD]

Hi Yes have complete car. is an early w210E50 without ESP .He has ASR with Defeatswitch. My question is so for German Highway/Autobahn ist more comftable to drive with an 2,65 Reardiff Ratio as an 3,07. in this Diriction goes my Question.The Motronic is unlock for imobilizer and v/max. and ecu tuning up to arround ca.378ps also fitted new AMG Cams and Ported and polisch Heads. I hope i came in the near from 400ps or so .in this config is its in my opinion possiblle todrive 300km/h i hoperegrads Markus

 

[Taxi Driver]

Hallo from Germany.
Is everyone here and can programming such gearbox Modul?? I have an E50amg and have change the diff Ratio from 3,07 up to 2,65 and have fitted an EGS from r129 .runs ok shifting is also ok but not fine.Why the "Steuergerätekennung maybe Codenummber for sending of Can-bus" is not the same as original.When its works i want this unit put it in my 500e.The later egs52 is reprogramming but the EGS 51 Nobody can do this here in Germany

Regrads Markus sorry for bad english

Hallo Markus, The EGS box follows the Autobox mainly the valvebody to wich it is programmed. I have a very early '96 E50 wich needed a new auto.
I found a *Tausch aggregat* from Mercedes OEM was from a '97 E50, perfect, appart from N->D N->R shift was ~2sec long, I had to change the
EGS to one for '97 wich has a modified valvebody. The E50 runs by now ever so sweet.

Why 2.65, the E55 2.82 would be better, maybe you have to get the E55 speedo calibrated for 2.82 gear. Guess you need 6liter motor with 2.65. Roger

 

[Markus-MD]

Hallo taxi Driver . But into the egs is coding the Diffratio and this one i want to change .I have all 3 typs of possible egs from the E50. all of them shift quicker as an normal egs. This is i need only change the Diff Ratio. 2,65 runs in my Opinion for German Highway more smooth.130km with 2000 u/min is good for me.yes for Acceleration is 3,07 very good)).i Have an m119 Engine Block with 100mm bore and and a m117 560 Crank.Problem is to find a guy in Germany he can Balancing the Piston/Conrod weight to the Crank.Next Winter time is comming.But sometimes i must work for my Money and i have a Wife too.and my Mercedes Benz
I mean with the 2,82 is finsh aroound 285km/h with 2,65 and enough Power i want/i hope come to 300the AMG Hammer had 4speed Autobox and a 2,45 or 2,24 diff and runs 303 km/h
Markus

 

[Taxi Driver]

Markus, is this going inta your E50? 6liter and all. Do you know what diff ratio the W210 E60 had, I guess 2.65? I am not sure from where
the signal to speedom. comes outgoing shaft pick up sender inside autobox most likely, only that and the wheel pick up sensors for ABS/ASR
would know actual road speed. If you change to 2.65, wonder if the computer really sense that if not the two signals wheelspeed sensor and
auto internal output speedsensor signals are evaluated and compared, just don't know? If not, the EGS will not know, so in that case the R129
or the W140 EGS are calibrated to the 2.65 diff but they have to be mtched to the valvebody you have.

A machine shop to balance out a cranksh. hard to find in Germany??? I have a Machine shop/tuner here in my nearest town and a crank grinder
within 30km, I must be lucky then. Btw is that an AMG block or a bored out one, what piston/rods are you goingto use? Roger

 

[gsxr]

What s the data set and version code / ETC code for the E50 EGS? I.e., a01, a02, a03, etc?

 

[Markus-MD]

The original is 0215458232 software f08 Dataset A01 EGS Coding a03 Contr modpro.86741
second i have 0215458332 software f08 Dataset A02 EGS Coding a03 Contr mod.pro 3461
thirth 0265457432 sotfware f0B Dataset A0B EGS Coding a03

the last i dont have not self Reading on Stardiagnose. is an used part with sticker outside with the dates.

 

[gsxr]

The variant code (ETC coding) is different for each chassis / engine combination. For example, the C36 AMG uses code "a05". I believe all AMG variant codes start with the letter 'a'.

Are both your modules with coding "a03" from the E50 AMG? I have not been able to find a chart in the WIS (or anywhere else) that lists all the codes for all chassis/engine combinations, only an early list for 1996-1997 USA models, which does not include the W210 E50/E60.

 

[Markus-MD]

Yes both module are from an E50Amg the first one is original from the birth of the car. the first is not more delivery so the second is the next choise. and this is part with 0215458532 only for my car European Spec. For my car is the Prob. that SG-Kennung is f08a03 so the can works perfekt so original now i drive an TCU with differnt SG-Kennung maybe f0Ba0B and is running not perfekt .Engine runs perfekt.Gearbox works not bad shift from 1-2 and somtimes 2-3 very short and hard. When ASR working somtimes came Errorcode in the Display ASR ERROR. i can see in the TCU some livedate Trottle and so one the Problem ist the TCU MAIN Coding. thats my Problem.Can erverone help me to change this coding only?? Markus

 

[Taxi Driver]

Markus, what year is the auto in your car, when I changed my auto to a '97 I had to change the EGS/TCU to the A 026 545 7432, earlier
part# lead to this wich is the latest for the E50 '97 m.y Roger

 

[Markus-MD]

Hi Roger yes i know this but actally i drove an 0265457232 from r129 v12 with coding f0bf40 with 2,65 rear diff ratio. And here i want7must change the coding to E50 tco with f08A03.
This one works but hard shift 1-2 and sometimes Problems with ASR-Tractioncontrol. Error ist Can-Bus comunication /SG-Kennung(maybe ECU Coding fail.And with this tcu is it not possiblle to drive more than 258 km/h with gps. Its Limited but the Engine Ecu is free for v-max.
markus

 

[Rouven036]

Have you contacted companies like MKB for example? They quoted for one of our customers a change in diff ratio coding, this was a 722.6 too but in a 219 chassis.
Your problem is due to the set diff ratio in the tcu and the different internal speed values which result from the diff change. In particular the comparison of wheel wheel speed and gearbox output shaft speed doesn't match anymore therefore the transmission shift behaviour is affected as well it might shift only up to 3rd gear (depending also on the tcu version) . You might get fault codes like "transmission slipping", or something like you stated about the asr

 

[Markus-MD]

Hi Rouven i know the diffucult probs of the internal rev,s. i have only one error in the Engine ECU .TCU failed Code. the gearbox is clear without errror .No I haved conntackt mkb but good idee Thank you.This TCU i used is compared with 2,65 diff. in my opinion i must only change the TCU Coding and the must work .I hope.

 

[Taxi Driver]

Hi Roger yes i know this but actally i drove an 0265457232 from r129 v12 with coding f0bf40 with 2,65 rear diff ratio. And here i want7must change the coding to E50 tco with f08A03.
This one works but hard shift 1-2 and sometimes Problems with ASR-Tractioncontrol. Error ist Can-Bus comunication /SG-Kennung(maybe ECU Coding fail.And with this tcu is it not possiblle to drive more than 258 km/h with gps. Its Limited but the Engine Ecu is free for v-max.
markus

I understand part of it,did not know this complexity. Funny theR129 did not work for speed, a TCU for a SL500 '96-'98 how would that work?
Maybe the only thing is to test an E60 TCU, where ever this is to be found second hand? How would it work with an E55 '98-'99 TCU? Roger

 

[Markus-MD]

Yes i little bit funny the r129 works .i have an TCU from w140 from 97 with this start the engine but no drive no forward no backwards. i lock now for an TCu from a E55 but mean the Engine Elektronic is an ME2,0 And the M119 have only ME1,0 . I have called MKB and wait for a backcall.MArkus

 

[Taxi Driver]

Thanks Markus, we need to know how to get round this, yes the different motronic, wonder how smart the TCU is, I was about to test
the C43 TCU in the E50 when I had the limp home second gear only. Do you not have a map over the ECU-TCU signals interconnection?
The adaptive driving mode function if reset should take care of some odd function, it's a smart little box really. Roger

 

[Markus-MD]

I have Maps too into my WIS .I have called with MKB an he told maybe ist possible do change the Gearratio into to old EGS 51 jipi.i must send my TCU box and he will try it,Best Regrads for this Info Tankyou markus

 

[Taxi Driver]

I found one TCU from a SL60 AMG m.y. '96 wdb 129067 1F 139419 really astonished I was to find out # 021 545 8132 that is same
as the one my car had originally! And this from a car the SL60 with 2.65, what then differs? Roger

 

[Markus-MD]

Can you tell me whre you found this?? or can i have this???Markus

 

[gsxr]

The part number of the TCU/EGS may vary, what is important is the version coding of the TCU. In addition, a particular TCU and version code is designed for use with a specific valve body part number. If the parts don't match... things won't work properly.

If you are having shifting problems (harsh, or flaring, etc) remember that the adaptation values MUST be reset, and you need to perform the adaptation procedure as specified by Mercedes. If this is not done EXACTLY correct, the adaptation will be wrong, and the shifting will not be optimal. There is a very specific procedure, ideally performed with new ATF/fluid, and also after changing the ATF.

 

[Markus-MD]

okidoki With the adaption i want try it next day. Very nice to being here German Tradition

 

[gsxr]

I found one TCU from a SL60 AMG m.y. '96 wdb 129067 1F 139419 really astonished I was to find out # 021 545 8132 that is same
as the one my car had originally!

The part number is the same for multiple chassis / engine combinations. What differs is the version code, which selects a different program inside the module.

I'm still not sure if the differential / axle ratio will cause a problem if changed from stock...

 

[Markus-MD]

EGS Software

f07/f08 is for 8 and 12 zyl mit EHS/Valvebody 1402700406
f04/fo6 is for 8 and 12 zyl mit EHS/Valvebody 1402700506/1402700206
e02/e03 is for 4/5/6 zyl mit EHS /Valvebody 1402700506/1402700406

i mean its depend for the hydraulicvalve inside Valvebody early was 140 Partnumbers later with 240 numbs
Was with TCU/EGS today with my lokal MB_Dealer. he said 0215458132 is for r129 sl60AMG with 2,65Gearratio but cost 946€without tax and cant order without Ownerdocuments Titel etc.Came from MB with Factorycoding and must activated by Local MB Dealer.its an exchange part. Can buy a new one for 1426€ withou tax. but not sure that can coding in MB-Garage without original cars. What a Markus

 

[Ivansvoi]

Программное обеспечение ЭГС
f07/f08 для 8 и 12 Zyl mit EHS/Valvebody 1402700406
f04/fo6 для 8 и 12 Zyl mit EHS/Valvebody 1402700506/1402700206
e02/e03 для 4/5/6 zyl mit EHS/клапана 1402700506/1402700406

Здравствуйте, откуда у вас такая информация?

Моя машина W140 5.0,1997.722.620
Поменял АКПП, старая АКПП была с клапанной коробкой 140 270 04 06
В новой АКПП коробка клапанов 140 270 06 06
EGS51 остался родным 017 545 07 32 ,Программное обеспечение EGS f08

Подскажите пожалуйста, какая версия ПО нужна для клапанной коробки 140 270 06 06?