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Electric car impact on fuel availabilty and pricing in future(?)
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I find that there is a corollary effect that has happened now that we have an entire generation of youngsters not learning how to drive stick shift ---- they don't know to give stick-shift-driven cars enough "roll back" space when stopped, up hill, behind a stoplight or stop sign.
I live in a hilly place and it aggravates me to no end these days when I am stopped on an upslope and the person behind me is RIGHT BEHIND MY BUMPER.
I live in a hilly place and it aggravates me to no end these days when I am stopped on an upslope and the person behind me is RIGHT BEHIND MY BUMPER.
Guilty as charged. Learned to drive at 13 years old but only had access to automatic transmission cars, family and friends. Never pursued manual cars as I got older, as I was used to driving automatics.
It is never too late to learn. You might find that it opens up a whole new level of satisfaction to driving. Few activities in automobiledom are as satisfying as executing a perfectly rev matched downshift in a non-sequential manual box from 5th or 4th gear to second gear right before a corner’s apex.
Yep, I love driving sticks. You're much more in sync with the vehicle, and an active part of driving it. No hand-held cell phones with a stick shift......
Unfortunately I never get to drive them unless I'm in Europe (rentals or old-timers) and haven't owned a stick since I sold my 1992 Honda Civic in 1999.
Unfortunately I never get to drive them unless I'm in Europe (rentals or old-timers) and haven't owned a stick since I sold my 1992 Honda Civic in 1999.
I drove a manual w124 for my first fee years if driving. That is my white w124 200. Once I got my 300E-24 Auto I never again purchased a manual Mercedes.
A manual w124 is an odd beast to be fair. A foot operated parking brake makes for a slight faff of hill starts for the inexperienced.
Whilst I keep the manual transmission kit for the car I did convert it to 3.6 AMG Auto.
My absolute preference is an Automatic car. I drove a "stick shift" for 2 hours tonight and it's much more relaxing to drive an auto.
What are you saying about a 200? I have driven faster stuff ya know!!You should driving a stick shift car with output measured in horses as opposed to mice.
Like a classic Porsche 911 Turbo from the 80s that is a great driving car! That one suits a manual and supercars would but any saloon car it's auto for me!
I had an idiot roll back on my 500E and I was at least 10’ behind him. He had a hard time starting uphill when the light turned green. It was a small car and it only dented my Mercedes license plate that was on the front at the time. I didn’t try to kill him
When I took my CA driving test around 1961when I got stationed at the USMC LTA, Tustin, CA. I had bought a Studebaker from a fellow Marine that he had put a V8 Packard engine in it. I paid $150.00 for it. It ran OK but you had to stand on the gas peddle to get the RPMs up.
Anyway, I used this car to get my CA driver’s license at the Santa Ana DMV. One of the first things the DMV Tester did was find a small steep section of road and make me stop 1/2 way up on it. Then I had to try to take off with out rolling backward. It took everything I had to move that gas peddle. I stood on that peddle with all my might to keep the car from rolling back but I got the job done and got my license.
When I took my CA driving test around 1961when I got stationed at the USMC LTA, Tustin, CA. I had bought a Studebaker from a fellow Marine that he had put a V8 Packard engine in it. I paid $150.00 for it. It ran OK but you had to stand on the gas peddle to get the RPMs up.
Anyway, I used this car to get my CA driver’s license at the Santa Ana DMV. One of the first things the DMV Tester did was find a small steep section of road and make me stop 1/2 way up on it. Then I had to try to take off with out rolling backward. It took everything I had to move that gas peddle. I stood on that peddle with all my might to keep the car from rolling back but I got the job done and got my license.
I have successfully taught both my 19 and 18yr old sons how to drive a stick shift. My 19yr son's car is a manual trans car that he has at college and now I picked up a 2002 BMW Z3 manual that my younger son has figured out how to drive.
I have two other manual trans cars that are more valuable and now they can enjoy them as they get older. The Z3 is a blast to drive.
I have two other manual trans cars that are more valuable and now they can enjoy them as they get older. The Z3 is a blast to drive.
Yup,‘it’s a whole different world with the EVs when it comes to 0-60. What used to be a Turbo S from Porsche few years ago is now beat by mid level Tesla. It is hard to get excited about modern ICE vehicles. Just got a 2022 xc60 and it is loaded with tech but boring as heck to drive….
Keeping my e320 and f-150 till they stop selling gas in this state… (they just passed the law to phase out new gasoline cars by 2030).
This is so true. Especially in a light weight older, mechanical cars. The grin factor is directly proportional to speed and in the case of my Triumph TR6, I can hit ear to ear grin by 45mph.
@Glen, That’s a great video. It must be thrilling to drive that Tesla. All of that noiseless speed won’t be much fun to watch in automobile races
I don’t think the EVs will be a big hit at the drag races. I imagine it will be similar to watching a submarine raceSeriously, I find it really disappointing to see gasoline powered cars going by the wayside. Personally, I’ll stick with gas as long as possible.
I wouldnt count them out. From a practical perspective, I still don't see how they're viable in the long term without massive infrastructure spending. In Europe, it's just being used as a means to tax the masses. I doubt that we would even try going there given that we can't even organize high speed rail.
2023 EQE Electric Sedan | Future Vehicles
Introducing the 2023 Mercedes-Benz EQE an all-electric sedan. Explore vehicle features, design, information, and more ahead of the release.
Just read through the highlights…nothing exciting.
64 color ambient lighting, big screen and air filters…and, oh yea, over the air updates. Sad to see MB playing catch-up…
My favorite writer on the subject:2023 EQE Electric Sedan | Future Vehicles
Introducing the 2023 Mercedes-Benz EQE an all-electric sedan. Explore vehicle features, design, information, and more ahead of the release.www.mbusa.com
Just read through the highlights…nothing exciting.
64 color ambient lighting, big screen and air filters…and, oh yea, over the air updates. Sad to see MB playing catch-up…
OPINION: THE FAT OF THE LAND - cars, design, culture, people
The era of German car design superiority has ended.
My favorite passage:
The German word Strenge means strictness, as well as rigour and austerity. German design, no matter whether one is talking about the Third Reich’s intimidatory edifices supposed to ‘last a thousand years’, Bauhaus’ radical eschewal of the decorative or the Ulmer Schule’s Gute Form, has always had more than a bit of Strenge to it. Lightness of touch and originality were always the domain of design cultures other than Germany’s. Like many other areas, design has traditionally been no laughing matter to those Germans pursuing it in earnest, no matter what their aesthetic or political leanings. Which makes it even harder to fathom how the German automobile could become an item of fashion, rather than design. Mainstream fashion even.
In contrast to design in general, and German design in particular, fashion is all about the new. It is about speed and instinctive reactions, rather than thoughtfulness and intellect. Given the frantic turnover of new models of automobiles, it is hardly a surprise that the German marques almost inevitably had to stop upholding traditional principles of measured design. Instead, they go with the flow, adding ‘expression’ to any frontal aspect that is not deemed imposing enough for the Chinese, or a tertiary touchscreen, on behalf of that elusive ‘tech-savvy’ customer. That the first case is a sellout of aesthetic values, whereas the latter constitutes a break from the previously sacrosanct devotion to fitness-for-purpose is not just taken into account, but celebrated as an act of free-thinking.
The German ‘premium’ marques’ past success was hardly undeserved. For quite some time, the German design formula simply was, all things considered, that bit more diligent. But neither fluidly animated displays, nor a proliferation of sharply stamped creases are worthy substitutes of long-lasting, visually sustainable forms and superior functionality (which includes omitting unnecessary, distracting frills).
It is not without irony that it was these traditionally German traits and qualities that allowed the ‘premium’ brands to thrive in the first place. But success sometimes devours its children - which means that rather than applying Strenge, German designers (or those working for the German brands) prefer to pander to what ‘the customer’ supposedly demands. Which, given the results this entails, appears like a highly patronising stance to take. After all, there is still an industry selling Bauhaus furniture to people all over the globe, at a considerable, well, premium.
With German automotive design as we knew it being no more, it will only be a matter of time before ‘the customer’ realises that he is not, in fact, buying a device of superior design, but the emperor’s new clothes. With plenty of soft-touch plastics, animated digital displays and conspicuous stitching.
And that, eventually, will not be worth any premium.
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Very well articulated…. Sad to see it unfold. I drove a Tesla S and an MB EQS and other than more comfortable/quiet ride, nothing to add to MB feathers and not worth the premium.My favorite writer on the subject:
OPINION: THE FAT OF THE LAND - cars, design, culture, people
The era of German car design superiority has ended.auto-didakt.com
My favorite passage:
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The German word Strenge means strictness, as well as rigour and austerity. German design, no matter whether one is talking about the Third Reich’s intimidatory edifices supposed to ‘last a thousand years’, Bauhaus’ radical eschewal of the decorative or the Ulmer Schule’s Gute Form, has always had more than a bit of Strenge to it. Lightness of touch and originality were always the domain of design cultures other than Germany’s. Like many other areas, design has traditionally been no laughing matter to those Germans pursuing it in earnest, no matter what their aesthetic or political leanings. Which makes it even harder to fathom how the German automobile could become an item of fashion, rather than design. Mainstream fashion even.
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In contrast to design in general, and German design in particular, fashion is all about the new. It is about speed and instinctive reactions, rather than thoughtfulness and intellect. Given the frantic turnover of new models of automobiles, it is hardly a surprise that the German marques almost inevitably had to stop upholding traditional principles of measured design. Instead, they go with the flow, adding ‘expression’ to any frontal aspect that is not deemed imposing enough for the Chinese, or a tertiary touchscreen, on behalf of that elusive ‘tech-savvy’ customer. That the first case is a sellout of aesthetic values, whereas the latter constitutes a break from the previously sacrosanct devotion to fitness-for-purpose is not just taken into account, but celebrated as an act of free-thinking.
The German ‘premium’ marques’ past success was hardly undeserved. For quite some time, the German design formula simply was, all things considered, that bit more diligent. But neither fluidly animated displays, nor a proliferation of sharply stamped creases are worthy substitutes of long-lasting, visually sustainable forms and superior functionality (which includes omitting unnecessary, distracting frills).
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It is not without irony that it was these traditionally German traits and qualities that allowed the ‘premium’ brands to thrive in the first place. But success sometimes devours its children - which means that rather than applying Strenge, German designers (or those working for the German brands) prefer to pander to what ‘the customer’ supposedly demands. Which, given the results this entails, appears like a highly patronising stance to take. After all, there is still an industry selling Bauhaus furniture to people all over the globe, at a considerable, well, premium.
With German automotive design as we knew it being no more, it will only be a matter of time before ‘the customer’ realises that he is not, in fact, buying a device of superior design, but the emperor’s new clothes. With plenty of soft-touch plastics, animated digital displays and conspicuous stitching.
And that, eventually, will not be worth any premium.
These are happening on (what seems to be ) a regular basis in my county.
loudounnow.com
You simply cannot have cars or their charging equipment burning up occupied dwellings.
On a related note, my wife's PHEV threw a code for a battery cooling system issue last week. This is the same vehicle that was out of service for eight months last year awaiting a battery replacement.
I fucking hate these things.
Ashburn Fire Started at Car Charger - Loudoun Now
The Loudoun County Fire Marshal’s Office has determined that a Monday afternoon garage fire at an Ashburn home started at
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You simply cannot have cars or their charging equipment burning up occupied dwellings.
On a related note, my wife's PHEV threw a code for a battery cooling system issue last week. This is the same vehicle that was out of service for eight months last year awaiting a battery replacement.
I fucking hate these things.
FWIW - the install of these chargers should be done by a competent professional. If so, there should never be any issues, ever. It's no more complicated than a dryer or any other 14-50 device.
Sure, some people are DIY'ing the 240v circuit and not doing it correctly and others are using extension cords, but that's doesn't mean there "should never be any issues ever."
If that were the case, then certain manufacturers wouldn't be scrambling to find fixes for charging issues. Issuing "keep outside," "don't charge unattended," and "don't charge indoors" orders to owners.
BTDT
Was this an issue with a charger or with the battery pack? If it's the charger, installing and wiring a 240V circuit is a solved problem and shouldn't cause an issue ever if done properly. Sure, accidents can happen, but guess what, they can also happen with the natural gas line for your stove, water heater, etc if those are done improperly, with more severe consequences.
If it's the battery, it sound like you're talking about the Chevy Bolt. The car made by GM, who didn't understand batteries well enough at the time to design the pack themselves so outsourced them to LG and clearly didn't enforce good process controls. Shitty situation, but...do you want me to find a list of how many ICE fire risk recalls there are every year? Here's one, then another, and some more. This was with 2 seconds of googling btw.
Other companies have managed to build these cars for years without issue. Sure, some accidents will happen, but it's still way safer. I'm sorry your wife's car had to be recalled for a pack issue, but my guess is it was designed by a legacy OEM who just outsourced the design to a supplier without fundamentally understanding the technology. Most good hybrids and EVs do not have this issue. No one would ever reasonably say 'this car from this one manufacturer I bought is bad, ergo every car ever is bad', not sure why you think that logic ought to apply here.
If it's the battery, it sound like you're talking about the Chevy Bolt. The car made by GM, who didn't understand batteries well enough at the time to design the pack themselves so outsourced them to LG and clearly didn't enforce good process controls. Shitty situation, but...do you want me to find a list of how many ICE fire risk recalls there are every year? Here's one, then another, and some more. This was with 2 seconds of googling btw.
Other companies have managed to build these cars for years without issue. Sure, some accidents will happen, but it's still way safer. I'm sorry your wife's car had to be recalled for a pack issue, but my guess is it was designed by a legacy OEM who just outsourced the design to a supplier without fundamentally understanding the technology. Most good hybrids and EVs do not have this issue. No one would ever reasonably say 'this car from this one manufacturer I bought is bad, ergo every car ever is bad', not sure why you think that logic ought to apply here.
FYI, my wife's car, which was not made by GM, was under a "do not charge indoors" order for about a year.
And my logic is just fine, thank you. Please don't call it into question either directly or via a strawman. I didn't say "every (electric) car ever is bad."
I said that I "fucking hate these things." There's a huge difference.
Twice, you've stated there should "never" be problem with charging a car. Sorry, but that's an absurd assertion. Beyond absurd.
I find that the most vocal supporters of electric cars (and those that will deny risk and/or blame the end user) either work for one of the manufacturers or have assets invested in them, or both.
There's no reason to go back and forth. I posted a story, an update on my ongoing issues and expressed my personal loathing for these cars. If you like them, then please enjoy them in good health.
And my logic is just fine, thank you. Please don't call it into question either directly or via a strawman. I didn't say "every (electric) car ever is bad."
I said that I "fucking hate these things." There's a huge difference.
Twice, you've stated there should "never" be problem with charging a car. Sorry, but that's an absurd assertion. Beyond absurd.
I find that the most vocal supporters of electric cars (and those that will deny risk and/or blame the end user) either work for one of the manufacturers or have assets invested in them, or both.
There's no reason to go back and forth. I posted a story, an update on my ongoing issues and expressed my personal loathing for these cars. If you like them, then please enjoy them in good health.
....... I put down a (super small, refundable) deposit to buy one of these things when it becomes available.
I have no idea if they will actually get to the production stage.
However, as a second car for my small family, I could use something like this. USD 31K, 400 mi range .... and since I don't park the good stuff outside (I live in a dense city) I would not use the solar feature and just charge it with the electricity I produce from the solar panels on my roof.
I think this is a fascinating approach. Electrification I think represents a re-packaging opportunity w.r.t. re-imagining what vehicular transport should look like .... but all the current approaches of keeping the same vehicular envelope and producing 5000-6000 lbs behemoths for USD $60K - $150K hasn't really resonated with me. I feel like that re-packaging opportunity has thus far been wasted.
Something cheaper, lighter, smaller, simpler, and only 1700-2000lbs resonates with me w.r.t using less resources (vs. using more resources making 6000 lbs beasts).
I also like their approach to "Right to Repair".
I have no idea if they will actually get to the production stage.
However, as a second car for my small family, I could use something like this. USD 31K, 400 mi range .... and since I don't park the good stuff outside (I live in a dense city) I would not use the solar feature and just charge it with the electricity I produce from the solar panels on my roof.
I think this is a fascinating approach. Electrification I think represents a re-packaging opportunity w.r.t. re-imagining what vehicular transport should look like .... but all the current approaches of keeping the same vehicular envelope and producing 5000-6000 lbs behemoths for USD $60K - $150K hasn't really resonated with me. I feel like that re-packaging opportunity has thus far been wasted.
Something cheaper, lighter, smaller, simpler, and only 1700-2000lbs resonates with me w.r.t using less resources (vs. using more resources making 6000 lbs beasts).
I also like their approach to "Right to Repair".
welcome to the ApteraEboard.co ! I think I will get mine before you do and then you can decide what to do. I went with the 250 miles range and the AWD version (lightest version with most power) for 0-60s in 3.5s but not sure that makes any sense in this car. 2WD is E500E fast which is fine for me to zone out while commuting to work.
I just need something spaceship-y cool for cheap so that I can upstage all the other snobs that take their kids to school in their de-rigeur Rivian / Porsche Taycan / Lucid / Audi eTron / Model S Plaid without actually being a bazillionaire.
My plan is to alternate between an Aptera and old school Mercedes, so that on Monday I can out-virtue-signal everyone with my superior e-environmental-saving-credentials, but then on Tuesday also show that IDGAF by doing school pickup in an 6* mpg V8 German Benz. * Driving in city traffic, uphill both ways.
Yeah I'm not sure a trimotor dealio is really necessary. Maybe bimotor is enough. I think I'm just getting older. When I was younger I really craved tons and tons and tons of power. However I learned that for me, driving a car that I was always scared of (because I had a BMW that was all ate up with turbooooooooo) wasn't actually all that fun. I mean, it was fun to mash the go pedal, but that was kinda one-dimensional.
I'm really interested to hear your driving experience!
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Saw an EQS in the parking lot of local home improvement store. Except for the star in the front, looks like a Hyundai.
Later the driving was hauling out a sheet of drywall. Had to wait to see him cutting the drywall into smaller pieces and hauling away in brand new EQS.
Saw a Kia evo6 on the way back and looks much better.
Later the driving was hauling out a sheet of drywall. Had to wait to see him cutting the drywall into smaller pieces and hauling away in brand new EQS.
Saw a Kia evo6 on the way back and looks much better.
The EQS is so goofy looking, same with the EQE and iX BMW. Sad to see the German's falling apart like this styling wise. The EV6 looks great and is an awesome deal if you can find one for MSRP.
Unless your roommate happens to be me. One of my friends had a 5speed manual Prelude in college. Actually two of my friends. 30 years later, we’re still friends. And some people still remember “my Black Prelude” from college. “That actually wasn’t mine… the white Accord was mine.”For kids in college, it's also a convenient way to make sure your roommates never ask to borrow your car and burn through all your gas.
I actually don’t mind the EQS, especially in AMG fitment, having spent some time toying with one on the road recently. It looks strangely S-Class-ish, if that makes any sense. My choice would be a Lucid Air, if not an EQS.
Lately, AutoMondial has been going over the various offerings. I’m particularly drawn to the tech that comes straight off the F1 track (as always, surprise surprise). Hence, the new electrified X3M looks surprisingly not bad. About the right size, good power to weight, track proven tech, nice looks, etc. Of course, it still has to beat out the Macan, but we’ll see. I think I‘m years off an electric or electrified vehicle.
maw
I feel like the detailing isn't as horrible on the EQS as it is on modern BMWs. However, the biggest letdown I find is the roofline. In my view, the curved roofline lends a sense of casualness that aesthetically removes any sense of gravitas.
The straight rooflines of the latest RR and the w140 gives weight and presence. They look much more formal. They look as they should.
In fact, you can even have the sloping rear, but the roofline MUST be straight, or else the design looks casual. See Citroen CX below:
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Yes!!! I couldn’t put a finger on it. That’s the “strangeness” of the SClass look to me.
Me: “It actually looks like an SClass, but something… isn’t… quite… I don’t know. Yeah that’s the basic silhouette, but…”
Thanks once again, Captain Subtlety @Jlaa.
maw
EDIT… say what you want but MB is committed as always to the uniform shape. EQE attached.
Me: “It actually looks like an SClass, but something… isn’t… quite… I don’t know. Yeah that’s the basic silhouette, but…”
Thanks once again, Captain Subtlety @Jlaa.
maw
EDIT… say what you want but MB is committed as always to the uniform shape. EQE attached.
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That was a “too-honest” response to say that the city of Lansing burn coal to feed power to the building to charge the car.
That said the right way to do it is to put solar on one’s home rooftop and install batteries at home. That way, at night, the home produced electricity can charge one’s car.
However, rooftop PV is not nearly as sexy as electric cars, even though they are an exceptionally good way to go “green” (rooftop PV is cheaper than electric cars, on avg). The big stuff (home solar) is never as sexy as the little stuff (cars).
In sum though, that’s why green electric personal transport (Roof solar + batteries + car) still remains something for the rich —- not for the masses for quite some time.
You mean it remains something for the rich and sexy… jokes (before people get their underwear in a bunch).
maw
If anyone's been following along my eight year PHEV saga... here's the update:
the car went into the dealer for a recurring battery cooling problem. Took about a month and a half to get an appt. One week later I'm told that the heat exchanger for the battery coolant has failed. It's a shared system with the cabin HVAC which may explain why that's been acting up also.
Cost to repair will be $1700, which is maybe a 1/4 of what I was prepared to face. No ETA for parts availability. Which makes me think this is gonna take a while. Hopefully nothing approaching the eight months it took to replace the battery in 2020-21. The car sits in pieces ATM.
This is the wife's DD, and she loves the car. But finally realizes that it's financial suicide to keep it any longer. In fact, it's due for the 70K service, for which I was quoted $2700 and I promptly declined. Asking instead for an oil change and a reset on the service reminder.
She wants to get another PHEV (or very high end BEV). While I'm pushing for more modest BEV. She struggles with the dark cloud of range anxiety, as her drive is about 105 mile per day. It's not a not-valid concern, but to my recollection she's never driven 200 miles in a day. Ever.
My preference for BEV is rooted my belief that they're simpler than PHEV and might not spend as much time under repair. Her current car has about 18 months of total residency at the dealer for repairs. Over eight years.
Vehicle availability of anything right now is horrible. Basically nothing out there. And she wants to drive something in-stock before agreeing to purchase, so we're kinda stuck in a no-go state. I'm fearful that she'll like her old car again and the can will be kicked down the road, again.
ICE vehicle is not an option as she has HOV plates. Which save her 5-15 minutes commute time on average each way.
Anyway, just a long rant after "investing" more time hand feeding new car info to the other half.
Old cars rule. Long live old cars!
the car went into the dealer for a recurring battery cooling problem. Took about a month and a half to get an appt. One week later I'm told that the heat exchanger for the battery coolant has failed. It's a shared system with the cabin HVAC which may explain why that's been acting up also.
Cost to repair will be $1700, which is maybe a 1/4 of what I was prepared to face. No ETA for parts availability. Which makes me think this is gonna take a while. Hopefully nothing approaching the eight months it took to replace the battery in 2020-21. The car sits in pieces ATM.
This is the wife's DD, and she loves the car. But finally realizes that it's financial suicide to keep it any longer. In fact, it's due for the 70K service, for which I was quoted $2700 and I promptly declined. Asking instead for an oil change and a reset on the service reminder.
She wants to get another PHEV (or very high end BEV). While I'm pushing for more modest BEV. She struggles with the dark cloud of range anxiety, as her drive is about 105 mile per day. It's not a not-valid concern, but to my recollection she's never driven 200 miles in a day. Ever.
My preference for BEV is rooted my belief that they're simpler than PHEV and might not spend as much time under repair. Her current car has about 18 months of total residency at the dealer for repairs. Over eight years.
Vehicle availability of anything right now is horrible. Basically nothing out there. And she wants to drive something in-stock before agreeing to purchase, so we're kinda stuck in a no-go state. I'm fearful that she'll like her old car again and the can will be kicked down the road, again.
ICE vehicle is not an option as she has HOV plates. Which save her 5-15 minutes commute time on average each way.
Anyway, just a long rant after "investing" more time hand feeding new car info to the other half.
Old cars rule. Long live old cars!
LONG LIVE OLD CARS!!
I have a couple Old Guys Rule shirts. I’d have a couple dozen Old Cars Rule shirts if they made them. And at the rate Blipshift is going, I’ll be there soon enough (I have stacks of them since I got exposed to their wolf in sheeps clothing shirt here). Car shirts (and old guy shirts) are 1000% on brand for me, what can I say?
@ace10 I feel your pain and +1 on nothing out there. I think it’s time for my wife to go back to an E-Class, as she’s considering leaving her current employer, a US OEM. And now we can’t drive past a Benz store without stopping to see what they [don‘t] have. So of course that means I need to strain my network for unobtainable new Benzes (more work for me, Yayyyy!!!) because she doesn’t like old cars (despite her insistence we take the S55 or 500E whenever we’re together — make that one work). I guess an old Benz is better than old cars but not as good as a new Benz of course; because she grew up in … [drum roll] … you got it, old Benzes. Can’t make this shit up.
It’s not PHEV madness but it is “new unproven car technology madness”, which is almost the same thing when you’re showing solidarity to a fellow ranter.
LONG LIVE OLD BENZES AND OLD GUYS!!
maw
I have a couple Old Guys Rule shirts. I’d have a couple dozen Old Cars Rule shirts if they made them. And at the rate Blipshift is going, I’ll be there soon enough (I have stacks of them since I got exposed to their wolf in sheeps clothing shirt here). Car shirts (and old guy shirts) are 1000% on brand for me, what can I say?
@ace10 I feel your pain and +1 on nothing out there. I think it’s time for my wife to go back to an E-Class, as she’s considering leaving her current employer, a US OEM. And now we can’t drive past a Benz store without stopping to see what they [don‘t] have. So of course that means I need to strain my network for unobtainable new Benzes (more work for me, Yayyyy!!!) because she doesn’t like old cars (despite her insistence we take the S55 or 500E whenever we’re together — make that one work). I guess an old Benz is better than old cars but not as good as a new Benz of course; because she grew up in … [drum roll] … you got it, old Benzes.
Can’t make this shit up.It’s not PHEV madness but it is “new unproven car technology madness”, which is almost the same thing when you’re showing solidarity to a fellow ranter.
LONG LIVE OLD BENZES AND OLD GUYS!!
maw
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