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Thanks Lowman! The photos were actually taken in the same room under the same LED lights with my I Phone. I'm not camera savvy enough to play with lighting!
Polishing the wood removes 25 years of scratches and hazing from the thick 'clearcoat'. Removing this haze does indeed make the wood appear much darker than before.
Honestly - I wasn't expecting that myself!
But I am very pleased - the pictures do not do the polished wood justice. For shits & giggles tomorrow I will tape off a small faded section of my cracked console wood and see if it comes up darker again by polishing
Polishing the wood removes 25 years of scratches and hazing from the thick 'clearcoat'. Removing this haze does indeed make the wood appear much darker than before.
Honestly - I wasn't expecting that myself!
But I am very pleased - the pictures do not do the polished wood justice. For shits & giggles tomorrow I will tape off a small faded section of my cracked console wood and see if it comes up darker again by polishing
The worst bit of wood trim my car has is the centre console. This has suffered bad sun fading. I tried out the method above by taping off a line with masking tape & polished just a very small area alongside the tape. The pictures below show the results
BEFORE-
AFTER – (Notice tape line – polished side is just to the right of the line)
It definitely makes a marked improvement and adds a deeper colour / lustre. But on this piece not enough – the sun fading is much too severe to salvage it & it’s cracked anyway. A piece that's not so badly sun faded responds very well to the polish
BEFORE-
AFTER – (Notice tape line – polished side is just to the right of the line)
It definitely makes a marked improvement and adds a deeper colour / lustre. But on this piece not enough – the sun fading is much too severe to salvage it & it’s cracked anyway. A piece that's not so badly sun faded responds very well to the polish
So at long last I have a replacement matching pair of plastic trims for my 500E’s driver’s seat 
I sprayed the grey one on the left Black to match the other new MB.
Thanks Benz, the item was very well wrapped & arrived in perfect condition as described.
I have about a dozen other projects running now so the 500E won’t be getting much attention for a couple of weeks except for driving it occasionally when it’s dry out. One of these projects is converting one of my garages to heated with an insulated automated door, triple glazing etc where the 500E will live. I’ll update on the 500E wood, stereo and interior restoration when the work has been completed.
I sprayed the grey one on the left Black to match the other new MB.Thanks Benz, the item was very well wrapped & arrived in perfect condition as described.
I have about a dozen other projects running now so the 500E won’t be getting much attention for a couple of weeks except for driving it occasionally when it’s dry out. One of these projects is converting one of my garages to heated with an insulated automated door, triple glazing etc where the 500E will live. I’ll update on the 500E wood, stereo and interior restoration when the work has been completed.
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i was inspired ..and did my own center console piece.Thought about doing it for a long time..but never got to do it.
Here is a collage pic of before and after on my car.
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Here is a collage pic of before and after on my car.
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So at long last I have a replacement matching pair of plastic trims for my 500E’s driver’s seat
Thanks Benz, the item was very well wrapped & arrived in perfect condition as described.
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I have about a dozen other projects running now so the 500E won’t be getting much attention for a couple of weeks except for driving it occasionally when it’s dry out. One of these projects is converting one of my garages to heated with an insulated automated door, triple glazing etc where the 500E will live. I’ll update on the 500E wood, stereo and interior restoration when the work has been completed.
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Lowman – thanks for posting! Glad I inspired that little improvement! You should try Meguire’s ultimate compound – it’s better than any other compound out there. Try it & see for yourself. I don’t think you need to flat it again those other little marks will also come out with the Ultimate compound.
The wood in my 500E is in the final stages I just can’t get the time to get the final 2x coats on
hey mister.Thanx alot for kind words..and again..thanx for the kick in the butt
The ultimate compound is what i use actually ..and yes..it is indeed a very good product i think
It’s been a while since I updated this thread. Other projects have kept me from enjoying the 500E this summer. It sat in my garage for about 8-10 weeks there so the battery is now almost flat. Now seems like a good time to upgrade to AGM battery for my 500E so I have ordered a new one for it - 900CCA + 95AH with 5 Year Warranty. (I chose an AGM Battery mainly due to it being sealed so no more potential for Acid leaks in the boot. This particular battery had the highest CCA & Warranty I could find online for a 019 size Battery. Usually they have 800 / 850 CCA & 3 / 4 Year warranty)
I also have new upgrade speakers, original Becker Stereo & Amp to fit next week along with putting the interior back together before getting a few final runs out this summer. Then much more work begins shortly during the 500E winter hibernation period – some finer restoration details & propshaft / diff / subframe refresh (May upgrade to Quaife LSD).The rest of the respray will wait until spring time again. I see lots of trips to the stripper (Sandblaster type that is!) and Zinc Plater’s in my future
I also have new upgrade speakers, original Becker Stereo & Amp to fit next week along with putting the interior back together before getting a few final runs out this summer. Then much more work begins shortly during the 500E winter hibernation period – some finer restoration details & propshaft / diff / subframe refresh (May upgrade to Quaife LSD).The rest of the respray will wait until spring time again. I see lots of trips to the stripper (Sandblaster type that is!) and Zinc Plater’s in my future
The AGM batteries are awesome. If you park the car for more than 3-4 weeks, definitely connect a battery maintainer (auto trickle charger). THis not only helps keep the battery fresh and extend lifespan, it also keeps voltage up to 12-13v so all the computer modules are happy.
The AGM batteries are awesome. If you park the car for more than 3-4 weeks, definitely connect a battery maintainer (auto trickle charger). THis not only helps keep the battery fresh and extend lifespan, it also keeps voltage up to 12-13v so all the computer modules are happy.
Thanks Dave. I do usually connect my CTEK charger but I recently loaned it to my brother who acquired his second w126 a couple weeks back. In any case the 500's battery will be charged & swapped into my 300E-24 who's long suffering battery recently died. RIP Varta!
Joe,
How many of those blooming British Pounds did have to give for this beauty?
I don't need one at the moment because I'm on about the second year of my Interstate's 6 year warranty. I have been very happy w/ the Interstate but it does have to be vented out of the trunk (boot to you) space. Next one will be this beauty.
How many of those blooming British Pounds did have to give for this beauty?
I don't need one at the moment because I'm on about the second year of my Interstate's 6 year warranty. I have been very happy w/ the Interstate but it does have to be vented out of the trunk (boot to you) space. Next one will be this beauty.
More info on AFM Group 49 is in the Wiki (link below). I'm running a couple of very old MB OE AGM (12-14 years, still cranking!), a couple Die Hard AGM, one AC Delco AGM, and one other brand I can't remember:
http://www.500eboard.com/forums/wiki_index.php?title=Group-49-battery-information-for-400E-500E
I've had very poor experiences with Interestate standard (flooded, not AGM) batteries getting shorted cells halfway through warranty period. After 4-5 failures, I wouldn't buy them again.
http://www.500eboard.com/forums/wiki_index.php?title=Group-49-battery-information-for-400E-500E
I've had very poor experiences with Interestate standard (flooded, not AGM) batteries getting shorted cells halfway through warranty period. After 4-5 failures, I wouldn't buy them again.
Terry, this battery was £155 Including tax and shipping – a bargain! Advanced Battery supplies is where I ordered it online if UK members are interested. No local vendors usually carry 019 AGM batteries…. (Most folks just want cheap replacements!!) A chain we have called Euro Car Parts (which is similar to your Pep Boys / Autozone) has 019 AGM batteries of the same CCA but 3 yr warranty for £279.99 as a comparison. Ouch
I have discovered before that several UK big brand batteries (Varta, Bosch etc) are indeed one & the same / labelling exercise. As long as a decent warranty is in place I make sure & keep receipts so it can be returned. Having said that – I usually always get a minimum of 8 – 10 years out of every battery I have. Top tip – get a clear plastic shipping label holder & slap the receipt onto the side of the battery before installing – that way it is never misplaced.
More info on AFM Group 49 is in the Wiki (link below). I'm running a couple of very old MB OE AGM (12-14 years, still cranking!), a couple Die Hard AGM, one AC Delco AGM, and one other brand I can't remember:
http://www.500eboard.com/forums/wiki_index.php?title=Group-49-battery-information-for-400E-500E
I've had very poor experiences with Interestate standard (flooded, not AGM) batteries getting shorted cells halfway through warranty period. After 4-5 failures, I wouldn't buy them again.
Wow!! The Interstate that came in my car lasted 8 years. The PO had just installed it. I'll see if the one I have now goes the distance.
Tonight when in my garage I made a very disappointing discovery. The resprayed roof in my 500E has had shrinkage and some sanding marks have came back through. A few areas are particularly bad looking. This was a Pro bodyshop that I have used for years so I will be driving it back to them this Saturday to discuss how to repair – at their expense.
Usually I do all of my own prep work and for the most part this sort of thing never happens – I have learned how to avoid shrinkage but it takes time & patience something many tradesmen lack these days.
But fortunately on this occasion I left the car to them for all prep work & painting. I only say fortunately because I can’t reason what excuse they would have for this happening – they cannot blame my prep work since they did it all!! I should have prepped it myself & now I am kicking myself for that but the hours I work lately mean that was not a viable option.
Step one will be to see if they can wet block it out to my satisfaction on Saturday. Otherwise it’s respray the roof time - take 2. Very disheartening as I have spent tens of hours detailing the engine bay after it came back from the bodyshop the last time. And today I discovered when moving my 300E-24 that the ~2k mile old Valve stem old seals on the reconditioned cylinder head appear to have soiled the bed and it’s burning oil quite bad. I can only assume they have hardened up (Victor Reinz BTW) so I’ll need to buy the tools to replace them in situ. That will be one of the next missions.
On a brighter note I have bought the Millar 9113 & 9110 tools from USA in preparation for restoring the 500E’s rear subframe this winter. In a weird way – I’m kind of looking forward to getting stuck into that bit.
Usually I do all of my own prep work and for the most part this sort of thing never happens – I have learned how to avoid shrinkage but it takes time & patience something many tradesmen lack these days.
But fortunately on this occasion I left the car to them for all prep work & painting. I only say fortunately because I can’t reason what excuse they would have for this happening – they cannot blame my prep work since they did it all!! I should have prepped it myself & now I am kicking myself for that but the hours I work lately mean that was not a viable option.
Step one will be to see if they can wet block it out to my satisfaction on Saturday. Otherwise it’s respray the roof time - take 2. Very disheartening as I have spent tens of hours detailing the engine bay after it came back from the bodyshop the last time. And today I discovered when moving my 300E-24 that the ~2k mile old Valve stem old seals on the reconditioned cylinder head appear to have soiled the bed and it’s burning oil quite bad. I can only assume they have hardened up (Victor Reinz BTW) so I’ll need to buy the tools to replace them in situ. That will be one of the next missions.
On a brighter note I have bought the Millar 9113 & 9110 tools from USA in preparation for restoring the 500E’s rear subframe this winter. In a weird way – I’m kind of looking forward to getting stuck into that bit.
Bummer about the paint! Hopefully the shop will make it right. About the valve stem seals... it's a long shot, but perhaps one or more dislodged and is floating on the stem? I had this happen on my OM603 after paying a machine shop to swap the old valves into a new head; it was pushing a moderate amount of oil out the exhaust. Turns out one of the aftermarket seals didn't stay in place on an exhaust valve. I bought the tools and replaced all the seals, this time with OE, and it was fine ever since (over 100kmi). Wasn't fun, and I didn't know what happened until I had everything apart. Since it was a brand new head at least I knew the guides were ok. Pics attached.
Excellent. 9110 works perfectly to press in the new-style Sportline rear bushings. Just a heads-up on the 9113, the threaded shaft is ~12.5mm diameter, and doesn't fit in W124/R129 diff mounts. However... OE replacement mount 129-351-50-42 has a 1mm metal sleeve inserted in the middle for the M12 bolts. I don't know if it's easily removed/installed, but if you can pop the sleeve out that would allow the Miller shaft to work. Otherwise you'll need to rig up a threaded shaft that is <12mm diameter. The Miller dies/sleeves should all work fine.
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Bummer about the paint! Hopefully the shop will make it right. About the valve stem seals... it's a long shot, but perhaps one or more dislodged and is floating on the stem? I had this happen on my OM603 after paying a machine shop to swap the old valves into a new head; it was pushing a moderate amount of oil out the exhaust. Turns out one of the aftermarket seals didn't stay in place on an exhaust valve. I bought the tools and replaced all the seals, this time with OE, and it was fine ever since (over 100kmi). Wasn't fun, and I didn't know what happened until I had everything apart. Since it was a brand new head at least I knew the guides were ok. Pics attached.
Excellent. 9110 works perfectly to press in the new-style Sportline rear bushings. Just a heads-up on the 9113, the threaded shaft is ~12.5mm diameter, and doesn't fit in W124/R129 diff mounts. However... OE replacement mount 129-351-50-42 has a 1mm metal sleeve inserted in the middle for the M12 bolts. I don't know if it's easily removed/installed, but if you can pop the sleeve out that would allow the Miller shaft to work. Otherwise you'll need to rig up a threaded shaft that is <12mm diameter. The Miller dies/sleeves should all work fine.
The m104 head was reconditioned - the machine shop fitted new Manganese bronze guides along with all the usual work. IIRC they did install the valve seals - I fitted the cams and lifters back in when I got it home. It could be a loose seal - or hardened already. I doubt it's wear since the car covered so few miles. Time will tell on that one- MB seals this time.
Thanks for the info on the 9113 - I'll keep that in mind. I can use some threaded bar If I need to. All the arms / mounts will be from MB. I have seen the front upper subframe mounts are separated inside so the time is nigh. I will also be getting the MB tool for the front mounts - it's not the removal that concerns me. More so that I have the correct tools to install all the new mounts properly and without damage.
Removal of the forward / small mounts can be a nightmare. Sometimes they pop right out, other times you spend hours chiseling the outer shell. Installation is the easy part! Use sliding fluid, you may need to let them sit pressed in place with the tool so they don't slide back out a little. These can be R&R'd without the special tool, but the tools do help. Most aftermarket tools are NLA now (might still be able to get the Klann?), and the MB tool was crazy expensive last I checked. Check out this PDF file for a "how-to" without the fancy tools.
Thanks Dave- that PDF is very good. I have changed w124 subframe mounts before without any of the special tools but it involved a big hammer! The front MB tool is still available but pricy at around £135. I may skip the front tool.
Not E500E related but tonight I serviced one of the newer Benzes we have. I guess a 4 banger Diesel stick shift is not something our USA members will see very often. All MB filters and Oil except for the Fuel Filter where I got Mahle.
Because they have what I'm told is a heater on top - these fuel filters are £73 - almost $100 USD for the one Filter! MB quoted around £105 for that filter which I found very odd since that exact filter (less heater / sensor bit) is around £12 for my 2007 E220CDI daily driver.
Some other brief observations-
ECU mounted on top of Air cleaner housing - using the Air flow as cooling for it.
Almost everything is plastic including the air filter housing & cam covers for example. Plus the camshaft ends appear to float unsupported
And a split in a Intercooler pipe - which hasnt blown yet but a new one is ordered now
Using the oil extractor the service was done in under an hour so I can't complain. I need to adjust the parking brake now also since a local garage (repair under warranty) actually made it way worse. Goes to the floor. I think they have no clue how a MB parking brake is set up - it's even got all new shoes & rotors fitted by them but USED pads put back in which angered me somewhat - who puts used brake pads onto new rotors!? Anyway - a Brake fluid moisture check / renewal etc this weekend will finish it up.
Not E500E related but tonight I serviced one of the newer Benzes we have. I guess a 4 banger Diesel stick shift is not something our USA members will see very often. All MB filters and Oil except for the Fuel Filter where I got Mahle.
Because they have what I'm told is a heater on top - these fuel filters are £73 - almost $100 USD for the one Filter! MB quoted around £105 for that filter which I found very odd since that exact filter (less heater / sensor bit) is around £12 for my 2007 E220CDI daily driver.
Some other brief observations-
ECU mounted on top of Air cleaner housing - using the Air flow as cooling for it.
Almost everything is plastic including the air filter housing & cam covers for example. Plus the camshaft ends appear to float unsupported
And a split in a Intercooler pipe - which hasnt blown yet but a new one is ordered now
Using the oil extractor the service was done in under an hour so I can't complain. I need to adjust the parking brake now also since a local garage (repair under warranty) actually made it way worse. Goes to the floor. I think they have no clue how a MB parking brake is set up - it's even got all new shoes & rotors fitted by them but USED pads put back in which angered me somewhat - who puts used brake pads onto new rotors!? Anyway - a Brake fluid moisture check / renewal etc this weekend will finish it up.
Wow, you can get the OE MB tool that cheap? On this side of the pond, 201-589-10-43-00 is ~$325 USD or so!
https://www.mboemparts.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-rear-axle-mount-tool-201589104300
First Gleitpaste then....
Damn you 500E Board
In other news I have a vast amount of w124 spares (And w202 AMG) some of which I will be selling off very shortly. This will include at least one NLA E500E Spare. I haven’t room to stand in my garage anymore there is so much stuff so needs must. (When you have 3 Engines in your garage attic enough is enough)
All items will be sorted, catalogued & photos added on 500E Board within 1 week.
Damn you 500E Board
In other news I have a vast amount of w124 spares (And w202 AMG) some of which I will be selling off very shortly. This will include at least one NLA E500E Spare. I haven’t room to stand in my garage anymore there is so much stuff so needs must. (When you have 3 Engines in your garage attic enough is enough
)All items will be sorted, catalogued & photos added on 500E Board within 1 week.
In an unexpected turn of events – I bought another w124! A friend sent me a link to one that appeared on Facebook for silly cheap so I jumped in my car right away & headed to see it – 1 hour away.
It’s a facelift ‘1998’ E220 Manual transmission car with 91k Miles – which do look genuine to me when looking over the car. Starts, runs drives OK but with a blowing exhaust. As I said it was silly cheap so couldn’t resist! The seller says it’s a 1998 – and so do parts sites when I look up the reg. I’ll check more into that when I get it home but it’s more likely a last of the run 1997 (Edit- oops - 1995 more likely!!) year cars that was first registered in 1998.
When I get it home I’ll get a good look underneath it to see what to do. With the low miles, manual transmission & black colour I may just leave it in one piece for now if there is no serious corrosion underneath. For now I'm considering it a parts car until I see underneath it properly I won't be insuring it or making it road legal - so it can just sit until I decide what to do with it.....
It’s a facelift ‘1998’ E220 Manual transmission car with 91k Miles – which do look genuine to me when looking over the car. Starts, runs drives OK but with a blowing exhaust. As I said it was silly cheap so couldn’t resist! The seller says it’s a 1998 – and so do parts sites when I look up the reg. I’ll check more into that when I get it home but it’s more likely a last of the run 1997 (Edit- oops - 1995 more likely!!) year cars that was first registered in 1998.
When I get it home I’ll get a good look underneath it to see what to do. With the low miles, manual transmission & black colour I may just leave it in one piece for now if there is no serious corrosion underneath. For now I'm considering it a parts car until I see underneath it properly
I won't be insuring it or making it road legal - so it can just sit until I decide what to do with it.....
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OK before I did a quick google before and mis read Wikipedia - it says 1997 for coupe last production years but 1995 for saloons? I assumed it was a 1995 myself until he said about the 1998 first registration date - very odd.
When I get it home I'll run the VIN in Star & see what the datacard gives as production date - I'm guessing 1995!
It's probably the registry date that confuses the online shops. When you run the VIN you'll find out that it is a 94 or a 95 me thinks!
It looks nice enough though!
Thanks Doolar- for £220 it ain't half bad! The interior isn't even mouldy either
So tonight we went to collect the E220. Fitted a new battery & it fired right up. Everything works & it drove flawlessly for 1.5 hours after being off the road for approx 3 years!
Its dark & pouring out of the heavens outside so I can't really take a look around it since I got it home. What I did notice was a 'Made in India' Mercedes plaque on the slam panel. And the owner said the car has 61k mile approx not 91k. It was a km/hr speedo that had to be changed out for MPH to pass our MOT. So it's a '1998' made in India import..... bizarre. I'll run the VIN in the morning. I did see this thread which might explain this car-
https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=34244
Its dark & pouring out of the heavens outside so I can't really take a look around it since I got it home. What I did notice was a 'Made in India' Mercedes plaque on the slam panel. And the owner said the car has 61k mile approx not 91k. It was a km/hr speedo that had to be changed out for MPH to pass our MOT. So it's a '1998' made in India import..... bizarre. I'll run the VIN in the morning. I did see this thread which might explain this car-
https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=34244
Just ran out to take a look - this is the weird VIN- (Never seen this before)
Just noticed even the A/C & Central locking works perfect.... drive away for 220 quid. especially if the low 60K Mile history checks out.
My Star is not charged - does anyone care to pull the datacard for VIN WDB1240226C285927. Curious about this car now
Just noticed even the A/C & Central locking works perfect.... drive away for 220 quid. especially if the low 60K Mile history checks out.
My Star is not charged - does anyone care to pull the datacard for VIN WDB1240226C285927. Curious about this car now
Neat stuff - never seen an Indian 124. Here's the datacard:
https://www.datamb.com/vin/8Pgkjo2N99rEVa4qZ
https://www.datamb.com/vin/8Pgkjo2N99rEVa4qZ
Neat stuff - never seen an Indian 124. Here's the datacard:
https://www.datamb.com/vin/8Pgkjo2N99rEVa4qZ
Cool, thanks Dave. It's a August 1998 with one previous owner going by the V5 document. The heat insulating glass, under guard & additional parts for vehicles in hot countries are quite rare options? I also failed to notice its a 199 Pearl Black car too
I guess kind of obvious but I've had all of 5 minutes between looking over it when buying & getting it home in the lashing rain tonight. If there is no serious rust I think I'll keep this one! Pics to follow in the coming days. It's no E500E but I kind of like this E220 all the same
So this is it in all it’s horrible glory. For a car that has sat for 3 years it’s not bad. It needs a total mega clean up though. Everything about it screams low mileage in terms of how all the wood, glass & even many small things like how easy the driver’s door key works – like brand new.
Joining the dots up now a bit better I believe only the MPH faceplate was swapped out for it to pass the (last) MOT in 2013. Thus the odometer reading (Then 62829) and now 91304 is actually KM reading. If this checks out (Which I am doing) that could mean it has 56,500 miles on it! There are various logical reasons why I make this statement and at this moment & time I believe it to be the case.
Taking it to a friends lift shortly to do a proper inspection on it for rust. If no serious rust is found it’s going to be another resto. So far looking underneath from ground level it looks damn good.
Very lucky on this car - not what I expected at all
Joining the dots up now a bit better I believe only the MPH faceplate was swapped out for it to pass the (last) MOT in 2013. Thus the odometer reading (Then 62829) and now 91304 is actually KM reading. If this checks out (Which I am doing) that could mean it has 56,500 miles on it! There are various logical reasons why I make this statement and at this moment & time I believe it to be the case.
Taking it to a friends lift shortly to do a proper inspection on it for rust. If no serious rust is found it’s going to be another resto. So far looking underneath from ground level it looks damn good.
Very lucky on this car - not what I expected at all
Got my Millar tools from USA! For w124 Diff bushing & rear later type subframe mounts R&R.
Been doing more inspections on the India W124. It's great in most places but makes up for it in the rear underbody / fenderwells & spare wheel tub. Have lots of pics of the rust etc but not sure if I should keep posting E220 stuff on 500E board
Been doing more inspections on the India W124. It's great in most places but makes up for it in the rear underbody / fenderwells & spare wheel tub. Have lots of pics of the rust etc but not sure if I should keep posting E220 stuff on 500E board
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Have lots of pics of the rust etc but not sure if I should keep posting E220 stuff on 500E board
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I think as long as its in the Other Discussions. your fine. I have read people post about coffee makers without a problem.
Got my Millar tools from USA! For w124 Diff bushing & rear later type subframe mounts R&R.
Been doing more inspections on the India W124. It's great in most places but makes up for it in the rear underbody / fenderwells & spare wheel tub. Have lots of pics of the rust etc but not sure if I should keep posting E220 stuff on 500E board
Well I would try to not make this become 'Owner E220' 
By limiting the posts on it and keeping regular updates on the 500E. I have 4x w124's (E36, E220, 300E-24 & 500E) so with the 500E in a good place now I'm likely going to concentrate on the other cars for a bit with only minor jobs / upgrades on the 500E.
If the 500E mods are cool I'll post all things W124 that might be of interest to members here
By limiting the posts on it and keeping regular updates on the 500E. I have 4x w124's (E36, E220, 300E-24 & 500E) so with the 500E in a good place now I'm likely going to concentrate on the other cars for a bit with only minor jobs / upgrades on the 500E.
If the 500E mods are cool I'll post all things W124 that might be of interest to members here
There are W124 models other than the E500E, 400E/E420 and 300E/E320? Seriously?
Generally speaking, anything relating to wheeled vehicles is FINE for this forum, as long as it is posted in the OFF-TOPIC DISCUSSIONS sub-forum. Occasionally non-car stuff is posted and that is fine -- occasionally. Most anything to do with the W124 chassis is fine in OFF-TOPIC; there is a special place for 400E-specific discussions.
We strongly discourage political/religious/antifa/BLM/white-supremacist/Brexit discussions on this forum. There is one member who goes by "500Eboard" with a Trump avatar who is on the hairy edge of getting banned.
Egregious & over-zealous Benzworld denizens (particularly from the 126 forum there) are always at risk of being -- and have been -- banned here. "Bondavi" from Benzworld 126 forum and all related sock-puppet accounts he has here, when discovered, is ALWAYS banned.
If you own a 500E and have an "OWNER" thread in that sub-forum, you should put any udpates to your other non-E500E cars in your OWNER thread. If you have a 400E/E420, you can have an "OWNER" thread in that sub-forum, however, you must put the model of your car in parenthesis after your name ... so the format would be "OWNER - GSXR (E420)" for example.
If you do not have a 500E, any OWNER thread should always be in OFF-TOPIC DISCUSSIONS.
Generally speaking, anything relating to wheeled vehicles is FINE for this forum, as long as it is posted in the OFF-TOPIC DISCUSSIONS sub-forum. Occasionally non-car stuff is posted and that is fine -- occasionally. Most anything to do with the W124 chassis is fine in OFF-TOPIC; there is a special place for 400E-specific discussions.
We strongly discourage political/religious/antifa/BLM/white-supremacist/Brexit discussions on this forum. There is one member who goes by "500Eboard" with a Trump avatar who is on the hairy edge of getting banned.
Egregious & over-zealous Benzworld denizens (particularly from the 126 forum there) are always at risk of being -- and have been -- banned here. "Bondavi" from Benzworld 126 forum and all related sock-puppet accounts he has here, when discovered, is ALWAYS banned.
If you own a 500E and have an "OWNER" thread in that sub-forum, you should put any udpates to your other non-E500E cars in your OWNER thread. If you have a 400E/E420, you can have an "OWNER" thread in that sub-forum, however, you must put the model of your car in parenthesis after your name ... so the format would be "OWNER - GSXR (E420)" for example.
If you do not have a 500E, any OWNER thread should always be in OFF-TOPIC DISCUSSIONS.
Unfortunately yes - I have a varied & motley 124 fleet
I wondered who that was & why he was allowed to call himself 500Eboard!
Thankyou for the clarification Gerry. I will continue to post my W124’s shenanigans in my owner’s thread. I am a self confessed serial w124 restorer so there is always something being worked on. Currently the E220 is very rusty...... but borderline repairable. I sense another project coming on – but it’s all good. Indeed I may do a ‘W124 Rust finding – how to’ on here on the back of the E220 findings. I have learned all w124 places for rust living in Ireland & onto my 4[SUP]th[/SUP] W124 resto
Full disclosure – I am a member of Benzworld too! But don’t really post very often only from time to time. I find many of the regular / daily members can be very rude / argumentative and attacking for no reason at all. I can’t be bothered with that ‘drama’ as I constantly see threads going down the pan in very unprofessional fashion with zero moderation. Conversely 500E board is a very well ran forum, everyone is genuine and helpful. Hence I will happily detail my w124 projects on here! It’s nice also to have a ‘journal’ to look back over from time to time even from my own point of view.
Is this having something to do with Prince Philip's quote in Scotland, "How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to pass the [driving] test?" :?I have learned all w124 places for rust living in Ireland & onto my 4[SUP]th[/SUP] W124 resto
That's what they all say (281lxm included)
But I see daily posts when I check in over there on occasion.
Is this having something to do with Prince Philip's quote in Scotland, "How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to pass the [driving] test?" :?
That's what they all say (281lxm included)
I don't drink before driving them but they 'drive' me to it instead
I have no current or recent project journals on Benzworld. But I do post daily on occasion- other times not for weeks on end. I try to help people where I can and not get involved in the regular fisticuffs that occur.
As for for the E220 I'll post an update next week when I'm fully done checking for rust. It won't be a full blown resto by any means (it doesn't warrant that!) But I need to first make it solid underneath so it doesn't get any worse. It'll make a nice weekend driver next year all being well. I do have an idea that in a couple years after I have the E36 complete I may do a Superturbo om606 swap on the E220 - keeping the manual transmission. That will make it a little more exciting - the 4pot is somewhat underwhelming but the condition of the car is so good in all other ways (besides aforementioned rust) I don't want to scrap it either ......
On doing more rust inspection on the E220 I’ve came to the conclusion she’s a parts car sadly. Shame really but it needs too much welding underneath to make solid. Some areas are good but the boot floor and above the subframe are very rotton. Someone has also bodged some repairs in the past so I'd have to unravel that also.
Although I could - I know it’s not economical to repair it.
On a plus side – it’s about the best parts car I’ve ever had! Every clip & trim will be removed and catalogued for my spares collection – nothing wasted. All bits including the doors and claddings are good as new also. All 3x locks work flawless with the 3x keys supplied so the handles and locks will be going on the E36 for example since it’s originals are shot. I’ll also facelift the E36 with the perfect headlamps and bonnet. (The E36 just needs paint to finish)
Needs must. For now it can sit as I build more garage storage in the form of a carport
So the C36 left with little dignity today – although I did put the hood star up for it’s final voyage
It gave it’s life for my w124 200 - now E36 (Which has all of the C36 running gear installed into, Auto gearbox & shifter, ABS brake system, rear brake callipers, entire Wiring Harness and ECU’s and the 3.6 Motor) This C36 was very rusty underneath so wasn’t worth restoring. It was the perfect donor though being a flip key non ASR car.
It was lifted and crushed this morning – let’s have a moments silence for the AMG gods!
It gave it’s life for my w124 200 - now E36 (Which has all of the C36 running gear installed into, Auto gearbox & shifter, ABS brake system, rear brake callipers, entire Wiring Harness and ECU’s and the 3.6 Motor) This C36 was very rusty underneath so wasn’t worth restoring. It was the perfect donor though being a flip key non ASR car.
It was lifted and crushed this morning – let’s have a moments silence for the AMG gods!
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Well I’ve got rid of the C36 and demoted the Indian 124 as a parts car – this got me thinking...... I have space again!! (Not really)
So tomorrow I am going to view a 1994 320CE Coupe in Azurite Metallic & Mushroom leather
(One of my favourite combos) I know the car had eco junk issues and was dry stored the past 5 years because of that. The owner says it has no visible rust on the bodywork so fingers crossed. It sounds like a well optioned car which is what I am after. (I have passed on 2x other CE's lately as they were 4 cylinder with cloth interiors)
I’m going to view it tomorrow night and put a deposit on it all being well. I’ll get the VIN off it first and start the search for a good used / updated wiring harness & possibly ETA too.
I’m building a carport and re-shuffling my fleet but there will be some very good 124 updates in the coming months so stay tuned! I’m clearing the way now to start bodywork on the E36 and try to get it finished by next spring. Plus the CE will hopefully be some tidying / light restoration work and get it back on the road.
Attached are pics the vendor sent me from his phone
(Not really)So tomorrow I am going to view a 1994 320CE Coupe in Azurite Metallic & Mushroom leather
(One of my favourite combos) I know the car had eco junk issues and was dry stored the past 5 years because of that. The owner says it has no visible rust on the bodywork so fingers crossed. It sounds like a well optioned car which is what I am after. (I have passed on 2x other CE's lately as they were 4 cylinder with cloth interiors)I’m going to view it tomorrow night and put a deposit on it all being well. I’ll get the VIN off it first and start the search for a good used / updated wiring harness & possibly ETA too.
I’m building a carport and re-shuffling my fleet but there will be some very good 124 updates in the coming months so stay tuned! I’m clearing the way now to start bodywork on the E36 and try to get it finished by next spring. Plus the CE will hopefully be some tidying / light restoration work and get it back on the road.
Attached are pics the vendor sent me from his phone
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Groovy wheels on that Indian E220. I don't recall ever seeing that style before. Klaus the Heckflosse really likes them!
So I bought the 320CE Coupe! 
It has rust though as can be expected but is a nice original car all the same inside & out. 111k miles with no paint corrosion - but the usual holed jacking points etc. I got under it as best I could and believe it to be restorable. It's got lots of good points; Like its on 4x genuine 17 AMG alloys with new tyres - and no de-lamination to either to front or rear screens - rare in a coupe! Also some bad points - which I can address with some TLC.
Much more info to come on it this weekend when I trailer it home. It is a true 'Barn Find' I guess...... It will be a resto this one – but I do really like the car and felt sorry for it as it has been in a shed for 5 years and a total shame to see.
It has rust though as can be expected but is a nice original car all the same inside & out. 111k miles with no paint corrosion - but the usual holed jacking points etc. I got under it as best I could and believe it to be restorable. It's got lots of good points; Like its on 4x genuine 17 AMG alloys with new tyres - and no de-lamination to either to front or rear screens - rare in a coupe! Also some bad points - which I can address with some TLC.Much more info to come on it this weekend when I trailer it home. It is a true 'Barn Find' I guess......
It will be a resto this one – but I do really like the car and felt sorry for it as it has been in a shed for 5 years and a total shame to see.
Heckfloose = w111!?
I guess these would kind of suit it. These are basic Euro 124 hubcaps obviously people still want em though so they'll be of use to somebody