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Snow chain button - 500E

Matin

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Hi,

Do all 500E's have the snow chain button by default? The car that I am looking to buy doesn't seem to have it so a bit worried that it could be a fake 500E or something?

cheers
 
Yes, it should have it, as part of the ASR system which was standard. However, sometimes that button is removed and replaced with something else, like an ASR Off switch. Got a photo of the switches in the car you're looking at?

:detective:
 
Typically, Japanese E500Es get modded and bits added to them. As in this case with a lorinser kit and rims, so it wouldn't surprise me if that console was replaced with one without the extra hole for a snow chain button for whatever reason. Just look at that added wood under passenger airbag which is not standard! :doh:
 
I think Bing nailed it. Someone added a wood kit, and it probably came with a console wood piece that was missing a hole, so they tucked the switch behind it. Probably still there, you just can't see it.

:scratchchin:
 
Drives me nuts when electronic items get bolted/screwed to the side of the center console!!!

Most of these items get removed and then you are left with a couple holes in plain sight.
 
Stupid question alert: what does that button do? I've seen it light up when I engage my ASR delete. But I have no idea what it does on a normal functioning car. And since I never see snow in this car...

By analogy, my Audi recommends letting the tires move independently (slip) when on non-stable surfaces (sand, gravel, snow) so that whatever tire has grip can take more power. Is this a similar function?

maw
 
It will allow for some more slip than normal up to 60km/h (40mph). And also wont do so aggressive engine power cut when spinning the tires.


If it lights up when engageing a ASR delete system its just a signal in the ASR system itself. It does not store error codes of this nature so it not something to pay to much attention to.
 
When I see the warning note, I take that as the car congratulating me on my proper and enthusiastic driving. :e500launch:

Especially with FGS and a rebuilt transmission... Which is why I so love the ASR Delete button in the first place.

But thanks to the Norway guys for letting me know what MB were thinking in regards to snow for this car. I think the only time I've seen chains on a MB were in Rocky IV...

Cheers,

;-D

maw
 
Bumping this thread back up...

I'm actually thinking of using this button for its intended purpose!!!!! I'm headed from SF to Tahoe for a week or so and will probably find some snow, so will be bringing chains. Has anyone on here put them on an e500e and used them? I had them on a 300TE 4Matic years ago but wondered if the lower ride height caused any issues. Car is on stock wheels and tires and ride height, but .036 is lower than S124 IIRC
 
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Make sure the chains are low-profile type. I like the Les Schwab diamond-style chains, or if you can stomach the cost, Thule (now König) makes some really good stuff. Test-fit the chains at home and verify plenty of clearance. Should be ok with stock wheels/tires and stock ride height. Remember you need to re-tension after driving a mile or two, and you MUST stay below 30mph.

Whatever you do... never buy or attempt to use cable-type chains with rollers. These go straight across the tire and have little metal cylinders like rigatoni pasta shells. This design is low-profile, but damn near dangerous if not driving on a snow pack. Don't ask how I know.

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Bumping this thread back up...

I'm actually thinking of using this button for its intended purpose!!!!! I'm headed from SF to Tahoe for a week or so and will probably find some snow, so will be bringing chains. Has anyone on here put them on an e500e and used them? I had them on a 300TE 4Matic years ago but wondered if the lower ride height caused any issues. Car is on stock wheels and tires and ride height, but .036 is lower than S124 IIRC
Cool! Stay Safe! IDK if you heard, but they just closed Lake Tahoe to tourism due to COVID. Wishing you safe travels....

 
Bumping this thread back up...

I'm actually thinking of using this button for its intended purpose!!!!! I'm headed from SF to Tahoe for a week or so and will probably find some snow, so will be bringing chains. Has anyone on here put them on an e500e and used them? I had them on a 300TE 4Matic years ago but wondered if the lower ride height caused any issues. Car is on stock wheels and tires and ride height, but .036 is lower than S124 IIRC
Buy the best quality! And the highest sales price may not be the best quality, but you will end up in the upper price range. If one chain link breaks, one section of the chain is thrown around like a steel bar hammering your wheel well or even worse the wheel arc. Then you can either cut off the loose end or fix it. To cut you need a pretty sturdy cutting tool because the material is quite strong. But the higher quality brands has spare parts or repair kits for this. So buy some spares and bring along the right tool, it's not that much tool needed - and buy that cutting tool anyway.
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I must admit I'd never thought of that destructive nightmare. Stick with the quality stuff. I've never personally used them, even living in Michigan.
The first and most important rule for driving in snow is keep the vehicle moving. On ice, nothing much matters except chains. Or studs.

drew
 
PRK has Draconian rules in winter on their highways over mountain passes. They will let a car go past chain controls with four bald tires if you have chains on the drive axle, and allow any 4WD/AWD vehicle through chain controls with any tires rated "M+S" (which is an unfunny joke)... yet refuse to let you pass with four brand-new studded snow tires mounted if you don't have chains on. Sheer idiocy.

If you want to get from point A to B, you have to play by their rules. Just watch out for the morons with 4WD/AWD on all-seasons who think they are invincible and are bombing through Donner Summit at 60mph in a blizzard on their summer tires with M+S rating.

:oldman:
 
I must admit I'd never thought of that destructive nightmare. Stick with the quality stuff. I've never personally used them, even living in Michigan.
The first and most important rule for driving in snow is keep the vehicle moving. On ice, nothing much matters except chains. Or studs.

drew
I can't recall ever driven with chains on any of my cars, only some company vehicles, because studded tires was very well introduced when I started my car driving. But in my childhood chains was in regular use on winter driving. So I have many miles an hours in my father's car on chains, the deep rumbling even brought a young kid at sleep on late night trips.:) But I've heard and seen what happens if the chain breaks. And the risk increase the more they roll on bare roads, which is hard for the chains and they wear out faster. But again, quality counts.
 
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