SOLD 1993 500E, Beryl Teal/Cream-Beige, 146Kmi, $40k / BaT auction (Los Angeles, CA)

[Bogeyman]

Admin edit 1: Price drop from $37k to $36k, see post #30.

Admin edit 2: For sale by new owner March 2024, see post #39 and #41. Thread title updated with new price/location.


1993 500E, Beryl Teal/Cream-Beige, 146Kmi, $36k (Miami, FL)

VIN: WDBEA36E9PB939085

Ebay ad - no VIN listed - hey, I'm proud of myself, I figured it out from the maintenance recs...

1993 Mercedes-Benz 500-Series 500E | eBay

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Datacard for 1993 Mercedes-Benz 500 E (124.036) - WDBEA36E9PB939085

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Autocheck attached.

 

[ArauzMotoring]

Gorgeous color and not a terrible price

 

[maw1124]

I wonder how long it'll be when people start doing interior swaps on these. Asking for a friend.

I'm halfway joking because these interiors aren't as easily swapped as, say, some car of which the other people made over 88 thousand. Yes, you read that correctly; 88 thousand.

But still, a black interior on this one would be boss.

maw

 

[gerryvz]

No prior record of this car in my personal database.

This is one of only eight cars of this color combination that were brought into the US. All eight of these US-spec cars had creme leather interiors.

So, this is a fairly rare bird, at least color-wise. Looks like it needs some significant TLC. Count on $15K of deferred maintenance to bring it up to an excellent mechanical and cosmetic standard. All in, it will take $55-60K to bring this car to a very high standard.

 

[cascade]

500Eboard Punch List™

1. Car has sagging headliner; in need of replacement
2. Car has spent time in Massachusetts; exterior and undercarriage should be closely inspected for rust and corrosion
3. Service booklet is not up to sync with car’s actual mileage
4. Car’s interior leather is very dirty and in need of deep/steam cleaning and treatment with leather conditioner
5. Retainer strap on top of windshield washer tank is missing
6. Windshield washer tank cap is missing round rubber seal on inside of cap
7. SLS fluid tank yellowed with badly browned sticker
8. Coolant expansion tank is badly yellowed and should be replaced
9. Trailing edges of inner fender rubber strips have come unglued from fenders; should be removed/reglued
10. Headlight doors badly worn, sand-blasted and cracked, particularly around pencil-beam areas; require replacement
11. Hood pad appears to be loose and sagging around edges; requires replacement
12. Trunk stops worn and in dire need of replacement
13. Center arm-rest on driver’s seat has cracked and worn leather; requires replacement/refurbishment
14. Rubber floor mats in front seat areas are not stock items
15. Stereo has been replaced with “videogame” stereo not befitting the car
16. Shift knob has been replaced with generic burl-wood shift knob
17. Warning sticker at aft part of shift gate corners are peeling up; requires replacement
18. Driver’s and passenger’s side front door pockets are peeling; require remediation
19. “Dealer” cupholders screwed into front doors and through leather
20. Cellular antenna installed in center top of rear windscreen
21. Front driver’s seat side bolster and lower thigh bolster show significant wear on stitching
22. Front driver’s seat bottom padding (horsehair) is significant degraded and dirty
23. Non-standard front turn signal lamps have been installed on car
24. Car has registration sticker on bottom corner of passenger side front windshield
25. Windshield has been replaced; car missing “A MERCEDES-BENZ PRODUCT” white sticker on lower passenger corner
26. Shoe scuffs on driver’s door pocket need to be rubbed out
27. Top tip of driver’s door mirror interior screw cover appears to be bent/broken
28. Car’s rear windows appear to be modestly tinted
29. Car has knockoff AMG wheels installed
30. Scuffs/scrapes on rear bumper rub strip
31. Lower edge of rear bumper cover appears to be slightly bowed out in center due to being snagged on curb or other item

 

[maw1124]

That’s a pretty good stack of paperwork though, going back at least 22 years. Given the way the rest of the car looks, it’s definitely worth a gamble if you’re in the market. And if you can nab it for under $40k you might even beat the low end of @gerryvz estimate. The seats are going to cost you a bunch but with any luck you won’t need a transmission.

maw

EDIT… that armrest looks to already be a replacement, and given the way MB laid out the interiors in these, rather than get into pigment matching, I think the option always exists to make the center vinyl black. Add black and beige CocoMats with new front seats and a carpet steaming and you’ve fixed much of your eyesore already. From there you’re hoping the mechanicals are as good as the paperwork suggests.

 

[gerryvz]

If the transmission hasn't been done (per the paperwork), then it's almost guaranteed at this mileage (which is literally identical to my car) that it is in need of having the transmission redone.

It is a pity that the maintenance detailed in the paperwork isn't described, which would help this car a long way. Undercarriage photos would also have helped, as the car has evidently spent some time in New England.

With 146K on my car, I've been nursing my own transmission along since 2008, knock on wood. I've got about a 1.5-second reverse delay, and occasionally I hear the "scraping/ticking" sound in reverse when backing up.

I agree though, this particular car at $40K or below would be an excellent buy. A DIYer could spend $5-8K on their own work, and bring it up to a very high standard where I think it would be worth significantly more than $40K. Pending undercarriage photos, I think this car has some pretty good bones. Interesting that we've not come across it before, over the years, given its rarity of color.

Appears this car spent pretty much its entire life in MA, and is only a recent transplant to Florida. Likely a privately owned car that was sold to a flipper-dealer, if my gut feeling is correct.

 

[Jlaa]

That’s a pretty good stack of paperwork though, going back at least 22 years.

It is a pity that the maintenance detailed in the paperwork isn't described, which would help this car a long way.

To be frank, the older I get, the less I trust others to work on my car. DIY if you want it done right and all….

 

[maw1124]

To be frank, the older I get, the less I trust others to work on my car. DIY if you want it done right and all….

Not from what I see DIYers doing... but I hear you... if every DIYer were like you maybe... but of course then no one is a buyer by definition.

maw

 

[LWB250]

To be frank, the older I get, the less I trust others to work on my car. DIY if you want it done right and all….

Careful, you could end up with a hood stack.

Dan

 

[a777fan]

Not from what I see DIYers doing... but I hear you... if every DIYer were like you maybe... but of course then no one is a buyer by definition.

maw

haha. indeed. We all strive to 'Be like @Jlaa '

 

[gerryvz]

We are a self-selected / echo chamber group of DIYers for the E500E. But the vast majority of owners are not DIYers and pay others to do their work.

 

[skikrazey]

My favorite W124 color! There is no easy way to reverse the damage of the infernal cup holders, correct?

 

[maw1124]

My favorite W124 color! There is no easy way to reverse the damage of the infernal cup holders, correct?

I don’t know about easy, but you can find door cards on eBay for about $300. You’re into the pigment matching game at that point, but ”close enough” + dye matching should get you home. It won’t be perfect factory but neither are restorations yet they're clearly acceptable.

maw

 

[gsxr]

My favorite W124 color! There is no easy way to reverse the damage of the infernal cup holders, correct?

You can either replace the entire door card (door trim panel) to fix the cup holder damage. Any 1990-1993 donor with leather and xx5 cream-beige interior will work, just make certain it is NOT a 94-95 donor or the color will be unacceptably different despite the same xx5 interior color code.

If you have access to a salvage yard, and/or don't want to pay insane ship charges for full door cards, you can harvest / purchase just the pleated leather portion of the panel. When I sold my 92 500E that had the cup holders, I included a pair of these inserts with no holes so the new owner could replace them if desired.

 

[canyoncarco]

Carfax attached for reference.

 

[Bogeyman]

Seller also has it in Hemmings for $39K - pick your price...

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/mercedes-benz/500e/2626004.html

No VIN listed there either...

 

[TerryA]

Seller also has it in Hemmings for $39K - pick your price...

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/mercedes-benz/500e/2626004.html

No VIN listed there either...

The VIN in on the carfax

VIN = WDBEA36E9PB939085

 

[gsxr]

The VIN in on the carfax

Terry, the dealer purposely did not list the VIN in either the eBay or Hemmings listings. Very odd... and not cool. Makes one wonder why they don't want to share it.

 

[gerryvz]

There are plenty of people out there (including folks on this forum) who think that publishing a VIN number opens them up to potential fraud or theft issues. Of course their VIN number is plainly visible at the base of the driver's side of the windshield of their car, but that is besides the point......

 

[gsxr]

There are plenty of people out there (including folks on this forum) who think that publishing a VIN number opens them up to potential fraud or theft issues. Of course their VIN number is plainly visible at the base of the driver's side of the windshield of their car, but that is besides the point......

Yup... I don't understand it either. But almost all USA dealerships publish the VIN, and some even offer a free Autocheck or Carfax.

For a USA dealer to hide the VIN is really unusual IMO.

 

[Bogeyman]

Maybe it's because they want to disclose as little info as possible?

 

[TerryA]

Maybe it's because they want to disclose as little info as possible?

Bogey, I think you hit the nail on the head!

The more a Dealer exposes info the less chance they have of unloading the car.

 

[LWB250]

Bogey, I think you hit the nail on the head!

The more a Dealer exposes info the less chance they have of unloading the car.

In the case of a dealer, sure, but in the case of private sellers most I've spoken to about this are convinced there's some sort of malicious hijinks that you can do if you have it. Just ignorance.

Dan

 

[duds]

There are plenty of people out there (including folks on this forum) who think that publishing a VIN number opens them up to potential fraud or theft issues. Of course their VIN number is plainly visible at the base of the driver's side of the windshield of their car, but that is besides the point......

I am the seller of this gorgeous 500e, reason why there is no VIN number is because i am opening to sell it overseas!

 

[duds]

Thank you everyone for all comments, i am happy to answer any question or concern.
You can reach Eduardo at (305) 477-7767.
This is a consignment car, not a flip.
Second owner (MA) purchase a newer mercedes with me and send me his 500e for sale.

 

[500AMM]

There are plenty of people out there (including folks on this forum) who think that publishing a VIN number opens them up to potential fraud or theft issues. Of course their VIN number is plainly visible at the base of the driver's side of the windshield of their car, but that is besides the point......

I am the seller of this gorgeous 500e, reason why there is no VIN number is because i am opening to sell it overseas!

That was a strange statement. AFAIK with regard to expose of the true VIN, it is no difference when selling a car domestically in the US vs. exporting overseas. BTW, the VIN is in the Carfax and listed in post #1 already.

 

[gsxr]

Now on Barn Finds. Link courtesy of @LWB250:

Ultimate Sleeper: 1993 Mercedes Benz 500E

A sleeper car is typically a normal-looking sedan but packs ferocious power underneath the hood. The Mercedes Benz 500e was one such example, being developed not only by Mercedes Benz but with Porsche too, making this an extremely rare and sought-after car. Did I mention it packs a 4.0l V8, and...

barnfinds.com

 

[gerryvz]

I am the seller of this gorgeous 500e, reason why there is no VIN number is because i am opening to sell it overseas!

What you really mean, is that you are not disclosing the VIN number because you don't want the car Googled by a prospective buyer and then traced back to this thread here on our forum.

Correct?

Any above-board seller/consigner with NOTHING TO HIDE would disclose the VIN number in their advertising.

 

[Bogeyman]

This car dropped off of Ebay - still showing on Hemmings.

 

[gerryvz]

No response from seller.

 

[Bogeyman]

Maybe it went....."overseas".

 

[LWB250]

It's still for sale, but the sellers are out of the country until the 5th of January and will be offering it (again) at that time. I reached out them and got that as a response. And they gave me the VIN and a CarFax in their response, too.

Dan

 

[PJmak]

When I see replica rims on a rare valuable car, I question sellers motives

 

[TerryA]

When I see replica rims on a rare valuable car, I question sellers motives

Replica wheels should be no problem. I bought a set of 17” Monoblocks from Becker MB accessories a long time ago fo my long gone 300E. They looked way better than the stock 15” wheels and were TUV approved and were made in Italy. It was all I could afford back then. They held up well.

I would buy a set today if Becker still sold them.

 

[Roma_500E]

No prior record of this car in my personal database.

This is one of only eight cars of this color combination that were brought into the US. All eight of these US-spec cars had creme leather interiors.

So, this is a fairly rare bird, at least color-wise. Looks like it needs some significant TLC. Count on $15K of deferred maintenance to bring it up to an excellent mechanical and cosmetic standard. All in, it will take $55-60K to bring this car to a very high standard.

What a gorgeous color and pre face lift car. Astonishing.

We had one guy here with that color but "facelift" car.

 

[MY911S]

 

[MY911S]

What she looks like now. Will probably have the paint refreshed next. Debating..

 

[MY911S]

Anyone interested in Beryl Beauty. I’m putting her up for sale and my black GT3. I’m consolidatin.

40K for Beryl. She’s a good solid car great bones never been wrecked, nice candidate to restore while drive.
Also requesting to change the Thread "SOLD" to "FOR SALE" if an Admin can do so. Thank you!

 

[MY911S]

I’ve decided to give this a go because there’s another vehicle I’m chasing.

So if there’s any interest in taking over care of this wonderful machine send me a message.

No surprises, no accidents, I drive her every week. Just maintain and/or restore slowly over the years.

 

[gsxr]

Now on BaHaT with reserve:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1993-mercedes-benz-500e-64/

This 1993 Mercedes-Benz 500E is powered by a 5.0-liter M119 V8 paired with a four-speed automatic transmission and is finished in Teal Blue Metallic over Beige leather. Equipment includes 16″ eight-hole alloy wheels, a power sunroof, fog lights, Automatic Slip Control, automatic climate control, an aftermarket stereo, heated power-adjustable front seats, and cruise control. It was purchased by the seller in 2022 following registration history in several states. This W124 500E is offered with a clean Carfax report and a clean California title in the seller’s name.

The 500E was assembled by Porsche and featured wheel arch flares, revised bodywork, and a lower ride height when compared to other W124 models. This example is finished in Teal Blue Metallic (888) and features black bumper covers and darker lower cladding. Additional exterior features include headlights with washers and wipers, integrated fog lights, a retractable antenna, aftermarket corner market lights, and a power sunroof. The seller notes corrosion on the roof and trunk, and photographs of paint-meter readings are presented in the gallery.

The 16″ eight-hole alloy wheels are mounted with Continental tires. The car is equipped with Automatic Slip Control (ASR), and braking is handled by four-wheel ventilated discs.

The cabin features heated power-adjustable front seats upholstered in beige leather along with a color-coordinated lower dashboard, door panels, and carpeting. Amenities include automatic climate control, an aftermarket stereo, a power-adjustable steering column, dual front airbags, and cruise control.

The four-spoke leather-wrapped steering wheel frames a 160-mph speedometer, a tachometer with a 6k-rpm redline, an analog clock, and gauges for oil pressure, coolant temperature, and fuel level. The six-digit odometer shows 151k miles, approximately 3k of which were added under current ownership. The speedometer does not work. Total mileage is unknown.

The 5.0-liter M119 DOHC V8 was factory-rated at 322 horsepower and 354 lb-ft of torque, Power is sent to the rear wheels through a four-speed automatic transmission. The Carfax report is free of accidents or other reported damage.

 

[Eagle01]

Moderator edit: Merged threads on same car.

No affiliation. It looks nice and unique color. 159k miles, teal blue metallic paint.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1993-mercedes-benz-500e-64/

 

[MY911S]

Testing the waters. Already regretting it.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1993-mercedes-benz-500e-64/

 

[TerryA]

Carlo, your car looks great! Sorry to see your selling it. It’s not the best time to be selling on BaT or anywhere. We are in a down cycle on car sales except for low odometer exotics.

 

[gsxr]

Testing the waters. Already regretting it.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1993-mercedes-benz-500e-64/

Just be grateful they accepted your reserve. BaHaT has been pushing many sellers hard to list with no reserve (or, a below-market reserve).

 

[gerryvz]

Yet another short E500E honeymoon......

 

[gsxr]

@MY911S - check the date code on the engine harness, see below. it has probably been replaced by now, and if so, a photo of the date code will quiet the muppets in the peanut gallery at BaHaT.

 

[MY911S]

Carlo, your car looks great! Sorry to see your selling it. It’s not the best time to be selling on BaT or anywhere. We are in a down cycle on car sales except for low odometer exotics.

Thank you Terry. Yeah it’s definitely not the same.

 

[MY911S]

@MY911S - check the date code on the engine harness, see below. it has probably been replaced by now, and if so, a photo of the date code will quiet the muppets in the peanut gallery at BaHaT.

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Yeah thought about that but pretty swamped and didn’t do it. Now we’re on vacation far away

 

[MY911S]

Yet another short E500E honeymoon......

Yeah I know. Maybe she won’t sell. I’m making some room because something super special came in. Anyway we will see.