Backside of inside rear corners ,above taillight

[lowman]

Hey people
Can someone please check their 500e for me.
I cant remember how they are supposed to look like on the inside of the rear fender /rear corner.
Are they all welded like you can see in this picture? Above the taillight bulb holder,you can see a weld.
Same story on both sides...

 

[lowman]

Anyone?

 

[nocfn]

Just saw this - hold on

 

[nocfn]

here is the left side on my 05/16/94 build

 

[gsxr]

Anyone?

Looked at my 034 and 036, both are very similar to Louis'. Visible seam, but much cleaner than in your photos.

 

[lowman]

Definetly supposed to be like that then.
This car is an early one,so maybe that can have something to do with it looking abit coarser.
The photo is not the best though.

 

[036]

Definetly supposed to be like that then.
This car is an early one,so maybe that can have something to do with it looking abit coarser.
The photo is not the best though.

How early?

 

[JC220]

Has the car pictured in post #1 been checked for signs of past accident damage? Remove all boot trim and inspect carefully. I would doubt Porsche / MB would leave that sort of finish on a new car

 

[lowman]

Has the car pictured in post #1 been checked for signs of past accident damage? Remove all boot trim and inspect carefully. I would doubt Porsche / MB would leave that sort of finish on a new car

Yes it has. I cannot find any sign of damage.no crumbled panels, etc etc.

 

[sheward]

Agreed. All those little pin dents along the seam looks like the results of a body man realigning the panel edge to accept a new back panel. If so, the work looks good and would not scare me away from the car.

 

[lowman]

How early?

March 91

 

[sheward]

It could also be a dent remediation done meticulously well. A bargaining chip?

 

[lowman]

Agreed. All those little pin dents along the seam looks like the results of a body man realigning the panel edge to accept a new back panel. If so, the work looks good and would not scare me away from the car.

The same pin dents can be seen om gsxrs picture... i highly doubt there is panel replacements in any part this car, at least now that it is verified that all of them have this weld there.remember it was handwelded alot of panels.

 

[gsxr]

Agreed. All those little pin dents along the seam looks like the results of a body man realigning the panel edge to accept a new back panel. If so, the work looks good and would not scare me away from the car.

One of my cars had the little pin dents also... must be from the manufacturing process. However, all mine had very clean seams - nothing like the original post.

 

[JC220]

Interesting.

My 1990 300E-24 pedestrian / mere mortal



My 1992 500E


It appears MB did use a small pointed body hammer of some kind to align the panels. (These cars I know inside out and are not accident damaged)

The car in post #1 still seems awfully rough.

 

[lowman]

It could also be a dent remediation done meticulously well. A bargaining chip?

Definetly could be.I need to look at more of these just to get a deeper feel for what im actually seeing ..

 

[sheward]

Now that I see the same thing on others, and you mentioned the same on both sides, I don't believe it was a dent remediation or panel replacement. Possibly just a different person performing the joining.

 

[lowman]

This is the other side.i see i have posted two pics of the same side,one pic is not great to see how it actually looks like

 

[lowman]

One of the paint thickness measures.the car does have a repaint, but i do think it is due to heat damage ,beeing sold new in Italy.And living there for its whole life.One owner car by the way

 

[JC220]

This is the other side.i see i have posted two pics of the same side,one pic is not great to see how it actually looks likeView attachment 212624

On both sides the little dimples are evident on the welds. Which is the same as the other pictures here.

So, surprising as it may be I am leaning towards that being the way that 500E left the factory.

 

[Bogeyman]

Maybe the result of hand assembly vs factory line?

 

[TerryA]

@lowman,
Stephan, The guy that welded up your fender did it on a Monday morning with a real bad hangover.

 

[lowman]

@lowman,
Stephan, The guy that welded up your fender did it on a Monday morning with a real bad hangover.

hahahaha he had to much SCHNAPPPZ the night before for sure

 

[Rouven036]

Never really looked at this and would have thought the quarter panel is made of one piece, obviously not. So these welding must have been made during the production of the quarter panel itself. Once it gets put on the bodyshell the exterior side is already finished off...
Nice to have some real craftsmanship on those cars. Also the quarter panel to rear center panel under the tail lights with the small crevice, the two panels are spot welded and then finished off by by an assembly worker doing brass soldering and hand finishing.
With craftsmanship also you have a bit of fluctuations in the appearance I.e hangover Monday, fight with the wife, no salary increase or so.

To identify a replacement of the panel, always look also from the inside of the trunk at the described joint under the tail light, spot welds of the quarter panel along the bumper line seam, underbody seal condition on the "fins" along the joint of the quarter panel, floor panel at the area of the side pockets of the trunk (outside/underneath)

 

[500AMM]

Never really looked at this and would have thought the quarter panel is made of one piece, obviously not. So these welding must have been made during the production of the quarter panel itself. Once it gets put on the bodyshell the exterior side is already finished off...
Nice to have some real craftsmanship on those cars. Also the quarter panel to rear center panel under the tail lights with the small crevice, the two panels are spot welded and then finished off by by an assembly worker doing brass soldering and hand finishing.
With craftsmanship also you have a bit of fluctuations in the appearance I.e hangover Monday, fight with the wife, no salary increase or so.

To identify a replacement of the panel, always look also from the inside of the trunk at the described joint under the tail light, spot welds of the quarter panel along the bumper line seam, underbody seal condition on the "fins" along the joint of the quarter panel, floor panel at the area of the side pockets of the trunk (outside/underneath)

Maybe that's part of the explanation behind those mystical slots discussed some times here. Which I'm personally twofold about; for the 124 design/historical reasons - Yes, but for aesthetical reasons - No. Well, I don't lose my night sleep of them.



BTW, someone recognize that 355 Diamond Blue car? That's a nice memory back from the 500ecstasy days back in 2006-7 and was owned by a member in France at the time. Really good looking car!

 

[500AMM]

One of the paint thickness measures.the car does have a repaint, but i do think it is due to heat damage ,beeing sold new in Italy.And living there for its whole life.One owner car by the way
View attachment 212625

Hmmm, do I sense something here now, Stefan??
You know the 036 haunting can ruin your life...

 

[036]

It appears MB did use a small pointed body hammer of some kind to align the panels. (These cars I know inside out and are not accident damaged)

It looks this way, I can offer a pic from 7/92 car, untouched.

 

[lowman]

Hmmm, do I sense something here now, Stefan??
You know the 036 haunting can ruin your life...

View attachment 212639

 

[nocfn]

we need your hello videos once again! "WELL HELLO PEOPLE"

 

[lowman]

we need your hello videos once again! "WELL HELLO PEOPLE"

Thank you so much...i do take that as a compliment. And i do play with that thought from now and then...I have done " alot" of videos for my facebook group..so i tend to do that...but i did fell out of orbit regarding the youtubestuff...but i will make an effort to hopefully make some more videos in the neaaaar future .

 

[nocfn]

Well the e500e stuff you did was awesome, we all loved them and I for one was bummed when you sold and stopped them.

 

[lowman]

Well the e500e stuff you did was awesome, we all loved them and I for one was bummed when you sold and stopped them.

Wow man,...i apreaciate your kind words alot. That means alot to me to hear that. Im glad the videos came to use. Hopefully inspiration will turn around,and get some videos going